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IdealProteinNewbie 08-30-2014 06:05 PM
FYI...many of us do not subtract sugar alcohols, only fiber.

thenewme42 08-30-2014 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by IdealProteinNewbie (Post 5062712)
FYI...many of us do not subtract sugar alcohols, only fiber.
ok...thanks a bunch!:hug:

ShelbyLynn8 08-30-2014 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by thenewme42 (Post 5062709)
sugar alcohols?...lol? I've got a lot to learn! So subtract that from carbs as well?(still typing w/ one hand excuse me please) :?:
Yes subtract from carbs as well.

Equation: carbs-fiber- sugar alcohols = Net Carbs

I subtract both cause you can:)

scorbett1103 08-30-2014 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ShelbyLynn8 (Post 5062720)
Yes subtract from carbs as well.

Equation: carbs-fiber- sugar alcohols = Net Carbs

I subtract both cause you can:)
It's really a personal choice, and for some a calculated risk. Sugar alcohols CAN be subtracted, but for some people they will still inhibit the body or cause cravings. I always chose NOT to subtract just to be on the safe side, and chose my products accordingly. Any time you enter a gray area like that just pay attention to what your body is doing. If you introduce bars that have higher carbs but high sugar alcohols and find that your losses stall, then those foods that you subtract the alcohols from might be too much for your body. If they have no effect, then you're good :)

ShelbyLynn8 08-30-2014 07:06 PM
That's what I was reading that some peoples bodies flush them or use them as carbs. They say to use ketostix to see if the sugar alcohols knock you off ketosis.

scorbett1103 08-30-2014 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ShelbyLynn8 (Post 5062732)
That's what I was reading that some peoples bodies flush them or use them as carbs. They say to use ketostix to see if the sugar alcohols knock you off ketosis.
Ketostix are not designed to detect mild ketosis (which is where IP puts us). They are designed to detect ketones in diabetics and people with kidney issues, and as a wife of a type 1 who was not well controlled for a long time I can tell you that when ketones show up on the stix, it's not a healthy situation. I'm not a proponent of using them on IP as they aren't cheap and don't really tell you much useful info. It's not necessarily that the sugar alcohols will take you out of ketosis, but that some people are sensitive to them and they can cause bloating/stomach issues (which will show up as a stall or gain on the scale), or cravings (which can lead to slip ups).

ShelbyLynn8 08-30-2014 07:36 PM
Good information to know! I have UC ( Ulcerative Colitis) so I have to watch for kidney stones. Since starting IP 3 weeks ago I've seen a massive improvement with how my tummy feels. Not bloated or too crampy

scorbett1103 08-30-2014 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ShelbyLynn8 (Post 5062738)
Good information to know! I have UC ( Ulcerative Colitis) so I have to watch for kidney stones. Since starting IP 3 weeks ago I've seen a massive improvement with how my tummy feels. Not bloated or too crampy
I had the same! I have hypothyroidism which causes major slow digestion and inflammation in my guts...IP was great for calming the inflammation :)

JLUS 08-30-2014 08:15 PM
Regarding sugar alcohols... In addition to the excellent info Scorbett shared, also consider:

Sugar alcohols DO have an impact on raising blood sugar, though less than sugar does. Therefore, since we are working to not raise blood sugar by limiting carbs, having them in a product and subtracting them can give a false impression of the true impact. Some people on low carb will subtract half the sugar alcohols from the total carbs and others do not subtract any.

Also, sugar alcohols are harder to digest (which is why they don,t impact blood sugar to the same degree as sugar), and because of the harder digestion aspect, they can cause some people intestinal distress. Just good to be aware of when trying a new product.

And finally, note that manufacturers of these products pretty much always will show on the front label the "total carb" count after subtracting ALL the sugar alcohols, so it is ALWAYS important to read the cut all nutrition label and not just the front label! (Of course they want to "look" as low carb as possible!)

ShelbyLynn8 08-30-2014 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by scorbett1103 (Post 5062748)
I had the same! I have hypothyroidism which causes major slow digestion and inflammation in my guts...IP was great for calming the inflammation :)
It sucks pre-IP my weight was all over the place due to my UC. My doctor was always bugging me about my weight, telling me that I needed to get it down or I was gonna continue to get flare ups. So he told me about IP and how it's low carb and gluten free, which will be good for me and my tummy. So far so good!!

jemma51 08-30-2014 09:46 PM
Had to share a funny story ( to me anyway). Last night my Bf who eats terribly was digging through the pantry and fridge looking for something to eat. He was shoving all kinds of stuff in his mouth. I don't really pay attention because it makes me sick. Anyway he is munching on a piece of celery and says " Hey whats that new Mayo you bought, it's so good, Kinda spicy or something". I'm thinking " what"? I look and it's Walden Farms Mayo. I started to laugh and told him it was my diet Mayo. Of course he instantly hated it.

scorbett1103 08-30-2014 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ShelbyLynn8 (Post 5062774)
It sucks pre-IP my weight was all over the place due to my UC. My doctor was always bugging me about my weight, telling me that I needed to get it down or I was gonna continue to get flare ups. So he told me about IP and how it's low carb and gluten free, which will be good for me and my tummy. So far so good!!
Smart doctor! I came across IP through some nurses I worked with at the time, prior to that I went through the hyper-hypo yo yo as ny thyroid was slowly failing and couldn't seem to get my aching tummy under control. Within a month of starting IP it was the first time in years I wasn't going to bed with a bowling ball in my stomach, and even when I stumbled in maintenance I was in better shape than before because I was keenly aware of the effect glutens have on my gut. I'm not gluten free but can only tolerate a certain amount before it messes with my gut. P1 dinners prepare you well for eating a gluten-reduced diet once you're maintaining!

bubbleblower 08-31-2014 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ShelbyLynn8 (Post 5062738)
Good information to know! I have UC ( Ulcerative Colitis) so I have to watch for kidney stones. Since starting IP 3 weeks ago I've seen a massive improvement with how my tummy feels. Not bloated or too crampy
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Originally Posted by scorbett1103 (Post 5062748)
I had the same! I have hypothyroidism which causes major slow digestion and inflammation in my guts...IP was great for calming the inflammation :)
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Originally Posted by scorbett1103 (Post 5062803)
Smart doctor! I came across IP through some nurses I worked with at the time, prior to that I went through the hyper-hypo yo yo as ny thyroid was slowly failing and couldn't seem to get my aching tummy under control. Within a month of starting IP it was the first time in years I wasn't going to bed with a bowling ball in my stomach, and even when I stumbled in maintenance I was in better shape than before because I was keenly aware of the effect glutens have on my gut. I'm not gluten free but can only tolerate a certain amount before it messes with my gut. P1 dinners prepare you well for eating a gluten-reduced diet once you're maintaining!
Funny how so many of us have thryroid and digestive system issues (I'm hypothyroid and have Crohn's and Celiac disease.) I always feel great on IP and actually had a major flare after I initially phased into maintenance and until I completely eliminated gluten from my diet.

lisa32989 08-31-2014 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Nan57 (Post 5062631)
This past week I started using Quest bars mixed in with my IP food. I have had at least one each day and a few days I had two. The bars are mostly 4 net carbs or less. I was concerned initially because gross carbs was high but fiber is also very high, thus the net of only 4. They contain no sugar alcohols. The IP bars are much less carbs and much less fiber so as we all now know are usually 8+ net carbs. That was the only change I made to my protocol and I lost 4.5 lbs this week. I am very close to my goal so it was surprising and fantastic. The Quest bars are $27.50 for 12 different flavors on Amazon. The texture is sort of like taffy. I like that it is something entirely new. I am ordering more today, but not the variety pack. I now know which are my favorites and I'll just get those. I have to say the coconut tastes like a Mounds bar without the chocolate coating and the chocolate brownie bar tastes like a tootsie roll (similar texture as well). The peanut butter and jelly bar tastes awful and the texture was dry. Don't be afraid to mix it up a little. After 3 months on the same food I was ready for a change. The results were great.
Which Quest bar are you talking about with 4 net carbs? I'm not sure I've ever seen one that low.
And many Quest bars DO contain sugar alcohols.
You basically have 2 sweetener options with Quest bars. Sucralose (splenda), which is very hard on my gut. Or a combo stevia/erythritol (sugar alcohol). It is important to read the labels of each flavor as they all vary in ingredients/nutritional stats.

i also posted a list of Quest bars that would be considered super-restricted (once/weekly). There is a whole quest bar thread.

catlady1981 08-31-2014 11:37 AM
Syntrax Nectar samples
 
I ordered some Syntrax Nectar samples from Nashua, but am a bit confused about the directions I received with them.

There was a page that had directions for different varieties, I guess for when you buy the big bottle, but at the top it says that the samples are one serving. BUT..two of the samples were manufacturers packaging and two were in clear bags with Avery labels. The mfg packets are 1 oz and say that 1/4 of the packet is a serving but the entire packet is 23 gm of protein. So it seems that I should use 3/4 of the packet to get the right amount of protein. The clear bags are 2 oz. Has anyone else gotten these and if so, did you just use 1 oz to make a serving? I seem to remember Lisa saying that she used 3/4 of a scoop. I don't have the scoop.

Very confused.


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