IP Daily Chat
 

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Welcome back to the Daily Chat thread - post your plans for today, share what's been happening, ask questions!

Some forum lingo:
NSV = Non-scale victory
TOM = time of the month
WI = Weigh-in
WF = Walden Farms
OP = on plan

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Information for newbies:
Check the sticky page (top of forum, above all the topics) for lots of good information and please read here before asking what might be a frequently asked question: Information on Ideal Protein phases (1-4), IP Ultimate List Recipes, FAQ, Newbie Guide, Exercise, and other Important Threads,
and here are the most recent Ideal Protein Protocol sheets

And before you cheat, read this thread:
The Real Cost of Cheating on Ideal Protein

Before starting new threads: spend some time reading the forum. Most new threads are duplicates, triplicates, quadruplicates. Folks who are the most successful, make time for research/reading.

More Recipes Here Mix'n in the kitchen...Recipes from the Rainbow
MiX'N' iN THE KiTCH'N.... Recipes from the Rainbow Volume 2
Fun with Ideal Protein Packets
Fun with Veggie Purees!
Ideal Protein Diet Recipes #4
Tips and Recipes from the Incredible Weight Loss Center

For those looking for alternative products
Here is a thread with tons of info. Spend some time in it. http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/idea...phase-1-a.html
And here is a link to a chart to help you choose appropriate products

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Progress photos
Mini-Goal Photo Album.

Other helpful links related to the Ideal Protein Dr. Chanh Tran Tien's website

Beck Diet Tuesday Reality Check

If you have the thought [about practicing a diet skill], “Is this really going to make a difference?” remind yourself that the answer is YES, it does make a difference because every time has consequences for the next time and the time after that. If your goal is to lose weight and keep it off, then it DOES make a difference. You don’t even need to engage with that thought because it will only undermine your efforts. Remind yourself that it does make a difference and then move on.

Good morning! Lisa you are up way early this morning!

And I like that quote. Every time we make a decision to stay OP counts in the long run. All those little decisions add up and actually take us where we want to go.

Good morning ladies! Someone asked on yesterday's daily chat about the timing of your snack. Does it matter?

Good morning true true Lisa!!!! ;)
Hey I have a question, I know there is info on this but I couldn't find it. Spaghetti squash is this like corn just high in carbs so we can't have it? Some say depends on your coach?? Thoughts ???

Sorry, wouldn't depend on your coach. It's not on the P1 sheet so it's a no-go.

I'm looking forward to it in maintenance though.

Most people have found that we must fit IP into our lives.

Some people eat dinner later than others so an afternoon snack works better.
Whatever works!

to all my veterans out there....did you ever just get sick and tired of eating on plan? wanted to change it up? i'm getting closer and closer to goal every week but just want to eat fruit again. have a slice of toast. i'm getting antsy! Guidance? My cousin was trying to convince me last night to start phasing off and just do WW. In my mind, that sounds glorious because I can just count points. But then I reminded myself that WW never worked before-too many temptations during a weight loss! I think it's a good idea for maintenance maybe. I need help to keep my motivation. I don't want to convince myself that phasing off is a good idea.....

Ems - I'm getting very close to phasing off and, yes, sometimes I'm just sick and tired of eating on plan and want something different. That's when I hit the recipe threads! And I have to have a talk with myself - I haven't put in all this time and hard work to not finish it up.

Hang in there, you are getting so close to goal - when I got within 5 lbs of my goal and then stayed there for a couple of weeks I was seriously asking myself the same questions you are. I'm so glad I decided to stick with it. I think it's normal to start getting antsy the closer we get but just think of it as strengthening your determination muscle!

Of course, but remember, you have the rest of your life to have the fruit or grain, just hang in there and you will get there!

yall are right. I just got off the phone with a close friend who said the same thing. Her first thought was actually quite funny. she said "I don't know how you've done it for the last 6 months but don't stop now!"

Ems--you already know the closer you get to goal..the slower it goes...and the resolve needed sometimes wears thin! You may be feeling that from time to time at this point. There is diet fatigue...which is your body and physiology screaming enough already...but there is also your mind. My time on this forum has shown me over and over that there seems to be a moment when we long-termers start running on empty mentally, esp if we have had a high degree of success. Usually I believe we start reading of these feelings from each other around the 6 month mark. This is not scientific..(!!!). Just a pattern I've seen more than once...and one I felt myself experiencing, at about the 6 month mark. Some folks reevaluate their goal...some rotate off for a while with the intention of returning...and some keep on trucking. The number on the scale is only one measure of where we should weigh in.. Are you exercising? Building and retaining your lean muscle? (A good thing at this point...but the scale will not show those continuous pound drops as you know. Instead...you keep losing inches and it can be pretty consistent and very noticeable with NO scale change happening at all) More important...how do the clothes you have fit? Are you in the size you want to be in yet?? You are tall, so there is a lot of room to layer that lean muscle and look good. (Always wanted a pair of long lean legs...) However, your BMI is still not quite in the normal range...do you want to consider that or not? Many feel the BMI numbers push to unrealistic low a weight for some body types and it has nothing to do with height and also using BMI can be something that is not one you can maintain.

I'd suggest stick with being on plan a while longer...but maybe it's time to schedule a visit with your physician and discuss your end point. Get some blood work (and bask in good results)...that may motivate you for a little while longer...or that process may tell you you are done. You have adhered and given this a magnificent effort up til now. Know there will possibly be some pounds regained with glycogen restore no matter what you decide for your end to IP, more dieting using another method and maintenance.

Many use the size of their clothing as the real gauge of being ready to phase off. You will also need to think out how you will go it for maintenance...lo carb? calories? Points? Increased exercise? You know a plan of maintenance for life that you can live with needs to be part of your world ... make sure you spend some time figuring that part out before you go off.

I'd really have liked to lose another 6-8 pounds (like 10-12 for someone taller than me...) but had to phase off for medical reasons...and giving my body a rest was pretty much mandatory. Others have had that challenge too for a variety of reasons. I can tell you once the active phase of IP is done you will find a lot of joy in life which has been back-burnered. You will have mental space for things you love and for new endeavors. Be ready for those challenges and the excitement of reclaiming what is yours....being ready for that takes planning and thought too.

Good luck...

So i've decided to do ip again, second time around. I went in to get some ip food and discovered they are not selling any of the products anymore. so i bought what i could from them, which wasnt very much left there, and now I dont have anywhere to get ip stuff, unless i order it online. Does anyone know if there are any alternatives I can use that I can get in Canada, since now there is no where for me to buy here?

65, thank you for that. I do feel like my mind is screaming ENOUGH ALREADY! It is around the 6.5 month mark for me. My goal in regards to a number is 160. My real goal is to wear a bathing suit confidently. Whether that be at 170, 165, 160..we shall see. It's definitely not right now. I'm in a size 10 but would love to be a 6 or 8. Don't know if that's realistic. My cousin and I are built identically and she weighs 155 and is a size 6, sometimes 8. My new coach measures every 3 weeks. I loved getting measured every week because I always saw more results in it. She said because our body changes so much with bloating, etc...she doesn't like to measure every week. The way she looks at the measuring is how I look at the scale. It can change so much throughout the day.

I do exercise. Pilates (2xweek) Yoga (2xweek) and recently I've been getting in about 10,000 steps/day with my fitbit.

I did blood work on 1/2/2014. My results shocked my doctor (Wahoo!) but she still wanted me to keep loosing. Of course, I was 199 when I saw her then. I told her I wanted to get to 160 and she liked that. I also have PCOS so whatever I do for maintenance needs to keep that in mind. My blood work showed high levels of testosterone. They think it's because of the amount of soy i'm eating. They want to retest a few months after I finish IP to make sure it goes down. They are not worried about it enough for me to stop IP.

I was trying to convince myself this AM that I needed to phase off now and learn my new way of eating so that I can lose weight and eat normally. Why must I try to tell myself that? Obviously it hasn't worked in the past. This is what works. I just need to dive into the recipe thread and spice up my meals some more!

Michy,
Go to www.idealprotein.com and find another clinic, there has to be another one not too far. Good luck doing it again! I'm doing it for the second time around and so far so good! Don't let yourself fail again. I learned I had to stop with the excuses and just go with it!

http://www.3fatchicks.net/img/heartb...145/173.2/.png
W1: -6.8

You are doing so much right...you will make the right decision for you. Suggest you may need to do something above and beyond the normal things you do at the moment to pamper you, and as a reward for the effort so far. Let it be something that serves as a motivator to keep it up just a while longer. Depending on your budget...I suggest a bracelet...something you can wear every single day, look at it and KNOW what you've done...see it and touch it...then smile and keep going. Add a bead bracelet? One bead for each month, every 10 lbs??? Even the hobby stores have reasonable chains and offer a variety of inexpensive beads.....Even if you already have another bracelet....Start a new one. Only do beads for your mini goals related to this journey, what ever they were or still are. Wear it every day.

PS--If you want measured every week at this point that is YOUR call...not the clinic or the coach...smile and INSIST. If they are worth their salt they will not try to railroad what you need at this point. You are not a newbie...

That's a good idea. I'll have to run by Hobby Lobby and check it out! I think I will tell her that tomorrow. I need the measurements...I can do them myself with a friend!

Hi Michy. Check out the Canada thread for ideas on products and where to get them. (I tend to buy online from lowcarbgrocery.com and well.ca, but lots of Canucks buy from Costco, Superstore/Loblaws, etc.)

http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/idea...d-vol-2-a.html

Awesome to start off my day to read the encouraging messages from everyone. Do any of you have recipes that you have tried and enjoyed? I do find following the IP program using alternatives, it is quite restrictive and I sometimes become bored with eating the same things.

I saw a different Beck quote today:
Tuesday Reality Check:
It tends to only be when dieters are off track and struggling that they wonder, “Is it worth it to keep putting in the effort?” When they’re on track and feeling in control, they don’t struggle with this question. If you’re asking yourself, “Is it worth it?” remind yourself that once you’re back on track and feeling great, the answer is always YES


edited to add: having a senior moment
Lisa did post today's quote-its a good one!

Still not feeling well today and since I stayed home from work I thought I'd try the IP zucchini muffins everyone talks about. I made two batches, ones with the IP maple oatmeal and I tried one with the IP chocolate pudding. The maple oatmeal ones were good, a little less salt, I think my pinch was too big. The chocolate pudding ones I threw out, the texture didn't come out right and maybe it's just cause I don't feel well but out they went. Now to see if I even hold anything down. I'm off to the store for some sugar free jello made with sucralose that someone told me about.

Right on!!!! That is so true. Thanks for sharing that......I don't have the book but have been looking at it online.

You used the dry pudding mix and not the pre-made pudding, yes?

My muffins turned out super weird last nite. I made banana (w/ banana pudding). Maybe I used too much baking powder.
They poofed up really big & then fell. Ended up hollow inside. Super weird. Never happened before. I'm eating them for lunch anyway (but I'm not sick)

When I post it before the Beck site has posted for the day, I just go back and get a previous one for a previous Tuesday reality check

They do Monday Motivation
Tuesday Reality Check
Wednesday Sabatage
Think Thin Thursday
Friday Weekend Warm up

I learned from one of the videos that it's a good idea to beat the eggs and other ingredients with the whisk, but once you add the packet to use a spatula. My first attempt at muffins did the same as yours. I used the whisk for the whole recipe and they poofed up and then collapsed. Because I'm super cheap, I ate them any way. Once I stopped using the whisk, they come out dense and moist. They have become my new favorite.

Just back from weigh in : down 3lbs - So Proud, Very Happy! Hard work, planning and restraint pays off! Tried the new IP MINT BAR! It's a nice treat!

Weird. I've been making them the exact same way for over a year and they've always come out fine (unless I underbaked them...user error!)
I've always whisked. I use my stand mixer. Beat the egg whites, add zucchini, baking powder & seasonings, & last mix in the packet(s). I typically make 4 batches at once

yes. yes it does :)

Treated myself to a haircut today. Stepped outside the box and changed my style after wear ingot he same thing for at least 5 years

Yes, I used the dry pudding mix, I ended up having to pull the oatmeal ones out of the muffin pan and I tried cooking the others longer, after about 10 minutes longer I didn't think it was going to help anymore. They had kind of a pudding consistency in the middle and then were really flaky and dry on the outside.

oh my gosh ya'll. So I attempted to be creative with lunch today. Never doing that again! I used strawberry pudding, mixed it to the consistency of pancake batter, and put it in my waffle maker. Or to be exact, my husbands waffle maker. It's still there. I have no idea how the heck I'm going to get the black chard remnants of it out. haha. oh if you don't laugh at yourself what can you do? I used the rest of the batter and put it in a skillet...cooked some rhubarb and combined them. It was really good! No more waffle irons for me though...lol!

Ems, I could have written your post, and you and I started IP within a week of each other way back in September. I am tired. And in the past month I have had slips. I am so close to my goal and have become too complacent. I told myself this weekend that it's time to STOP the slippage - just bear down, focus, and get it done and move on to P2 already. You and I are both so close - don't stop now. We can do it together!! :)

GettinHealthyNow, we can be each others cheerleaders! I know I'm going to stick to it. I know it would be doing wrong to myself to do otherwise. I used to work at a summer camp and we put such a strong emphasis on the kids about 'finishing the race'. We explained how it was important to finish, no matter the task. What they would relate it to was a huge swim meet we would have. We would explain how important it was to 'swim through the docks' and someone will catch you. Don't keep looking up to see how far you've gone, just swim until it's time to stop. It could be something at work, a track meet, a weight loss program, etc. So here I am, telling myself and the rest of you, to finish the race and swim through the dock!

Ate some of the jello recommended to me (snack pack sugar free made with sucralose instead of aspartame. Made myself some cabbage soup, just need to eat my lunch IP and so far I'm managing to hold everything down, gotta wait about 30 more minutes to know for sure.

EMS and GettingHealthy you girls are rockstars! I am so impressed with your determination and commitment thus far. Big kudos to you. I hope you all are celebrating the losses and enjoying the transformation even though you are not quite at goal yet because you both have came such a long way. And you are right, sooooooo close! I can attest that the closer it gets the harder it seems to be. Just know that we are all cheering you on! Yahooooo!

I'm doing the IP using alternatives. Is it okay to chat in this thread or is there a specific thread for it?

Welcome! Many folks are using alternative products. Some started with a coach and switched when they learned the difference in price. Some have never had a coach. All are welcome.

Oh my gosh! I just had my first bag of dill pickle zippers and I can't believe how good they are. I didn't realize I was missing salty/crunchy things. It reminded me of Cheetos though, with how messy they were. Finger lickin' good.

Welcome back to the horse:)

My issue was different. Long plateau burned me out from doing p1 nonstop after about 10 months. I mean, if all I'm gonna do is maintain, I'm doing it on p3 or 4...NOT 1 :)

That being said, I've done some interventions for some systems in my body so I, too, am back on the p1 horse. I'm giving it 6 weeks. If I'm mostly losing & the trend is down, I'll stick on it until goal. If not, I'll phase off again and we'll see what other physical interventions need to happen. It is ALL good because I'm healthier and healthier!

I agree with what others have said. You're still losing. Stick with it. Find some new recipes to get you excited again. Change it up & go for gold!

Check the very first post of this thread for lots of links to recipe threads. It is super easy to get bored so variety is the name if the game.

Ems, I am glad that you have already decided to stick it out. My initial reaction was h*ll no, do not stop now. The reason WW has not worked is tied to your PCOS and being insulin resistant. I am so proud of how far you have come. Your positive spirit and can do attitude has been refreshing on this thread. You are just in a slump. The fruit will be there when you are feeling awesome in that new bathing suit. I understand the fatigue, I have had to switch up my dinner choices lately, just to keep my interest. But I am determined to make it to at least 160. I am in control of what goes in my mouth. The food on program nourishes my body, the stuff from my mind is just craving chatter from my inner brat. This time- I chose not to listen. A good friend always says, shut it down.

Great! Thanks :) I would have done IP with a coach but there is no clinic in the drivable vicinity (I live in rural Canada) so I stalked here for ages until I felt ready enough to jump in. So, I'm going it alone.

How many carbs should I shoot for a day to stay in ketosis? I've been trying to keep my net carbs to 35g and less, but I'm unsure if that's too much or too little.