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Good afternoon. Day 3 going well. Shrinkingsusie you are doing a great job. This is my second time around with IP. I am going to channel your determination and mirror your results!! Well done.

I can't wait for Friday, my weigh in day. I can literally feel my weight coming off me. This will be my second weigh in. My fat pants are no longer hurting me and jeans that I bought at a charity Gap sale few weeks ago at $5 a piece are starting to fit (there was no change room). Even my parents (who are incidentally my biggest critics when I put on weight!) have noted that you can see the results on me already! I am pretty lucky as I gain weight evenly all over my body, so that is the way that it is also coming off.

How exciting, congrats! I put on a size 12 French Connection dress this AM that I haven't worn since my last time on IP. As much as I talk about rewarding myself throughout the process, I feel like getting into smaller sizes is the biggest reward of all! ;)

My new coach I was going to meet today had a fam emergency and had to reschedule. :( Of course I understand the need to take time for the family! I was just soooo looking forward to meeting her! Can't go till Monday now. :(

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good morning ~ I am on week 6 of IP and have been successful in loosing 20 pounds in that time. This week, I hit a plateau. Can you offer and recommendations for breaking through to lose my last 10 pounds? Thanks!!

I'm in week 2 and I feel like my weight is coming off sooooo slowly. Of course I understand that everyone loses differently, but I'm wondering what modifications I can make to speed it up. I've been posting my meals in the meal thread daily. Since I'm using alternatives I mostly stick to EAS shakes, Quest bars for my restricteds, Protei-Diet and Protei-Thin products and WF dressings. Anyone have experience losing this slow or recommendations? Thx!

That is awesome! I agree, there is no better reward than fitting into your old favorites again! I am bit obsessed with clothes, especially dresses, and have so many. Two weeks ago I looked like a stuffed sausage in them, now they are starting to fit much better.

Hey Sunflwr...I am with you on this one. I too feel like I am losing really slow this time around. I am on day 15 and before I could knock out 6-8lbs by then. I am also using EAS shakes a lot and sometimes drink them for bfast, lunch, and snack. I wonder if this could be impacting it.

OK gals. Any insight here would be greatly appreciated. Been OP for two weeks. NO cheating, getting all veggies, water, proteins in. Here is where I am getting a bit thrown off. I am waking up bloated. Yup, bloated! WTH? I am not eating hardly any food not to mention what i do eat is healthy. What is up with this? Ever happen to you. My stomach was literally puffing out this morning. Usually on IP I wake up and feel thinner, even i am not losing. Feeling soooo discouraged. I was dealing with the big c and finally went to the bathroom this morning after drinking some tea last night so i hope it helps...literally had been 5 days. Another strange thing is that i am not spotting at all which is what usually happens when i go on IP. What is up here?

eandc - are you getting all your oil in? I find if I cut my fats down too low I get backed up really fast.

Ruth Ann, I am cooking with oils everyday sauteing veggies. That being said, I do not measure what I cook with. Should I add the extra 2tsps on top of what I am cooking with? Do you think that will cause me to gain/continue this stall that I am on. My weight has not moved in an entire week.

You should add 2 tsp on top of what you're cooking with is what I've been doing. A lot of oil stays in the pan when you're cooking with it.

I also find having fattier cuts of meat (hamburger, steak, etc.) once or twice a week helps.

My coach was adamant about consuming my olive oil uncooked. Olive oil tends to lose a lot of its goodness when exposed to high temperatures. Just a thought.

Good to know! Thank you all for the feedback. Perhaps I will give that a shot. I am just dragging today. I have been maintaining and put on some 6-7lbs of holiday weight and figured I would do 30 days of phase 1 to loose the holiday gain but also hopefully lose another 5-10 not to mention retrain my tastebuds and get some healthy habits back in place. Not seeing any movement for a week has been hard. Darn scale. Maybe tomorrow since I finally went to the bathroom today will show me some love.

All of the advice you've been given so far will help!! Just remember, RELAX! Don't stress yourself out too much! Last week I got annoyed and tried to fix everything I was doing but was reminded that we must let our bodies do as they can. Follow the plan, take this extra advice and don't give yourself such a stressful deadline if you don't have to. I understand wanting to get it off in 30 days but maybe your psyching yourself out! You got this!!!

First off suda and sunflwr, take a deep breath! You're both doing great. It's not unusual to have slower weeks especially after big, quick losses and neither of you have a huge amount to lose (relatively speaking, of course). The closer you are to your goal the slower the weight will come off.

How are your clothes fitting? What does the measuring tape show? How do you feel? The scale is just a measure for that one specific point in time and while it's exciting to see the numbers go down, it's not the only measure of success. For instance, the scale showed 0 lost this week, but this weekend I put on size 8 pants and they fit! A month ago I was wearing 12s.

I know it's hard not to get impatient, but you didn't put the weight on in a few weeks and it's going to take some time to get it off. Concentrate on getting everything on the sheet in and learning (or re-learning) some good habits. Measure and weigh everything. The weight will come off, just not always as fast as we would like.

So hang in there! We're all rooting for you!

Eandc2006, the EAS shakes are pretty high in sodium, if your body is sensitive to water retention.

Ruthann, did not realize that about adding the oil. Going to try it because "C" is definitely an issue for me.

Ems, sorry that you are disappointed. More time to lose before your weigh in.

Kontesanera, glad IP is going so well for you.

You are all right. I cannot stress about this...and maybe it will take more than 30 days to get to where I really want to be. I suppose that is OK since I won't get there any other way. :)

Slipfree I have noticed that the EAS is higher is sodium. I will look into reducing my salt on my food.

Just thought I'd share a NSV - I'm in size 8 pants today. Last week my 10s (which I thought I'd NEVER be able to wear) were suddenly sagging on the behind. I needed this - I've been feeling a bit fed up and actually had a terrible eating binge on the weekend - first time I've fallen off the protocol since starting back in September. This has given me the pump up I needed to recover and move forward. I've been so ashamed of myself that I can't even open up the 100% thread to read it as I normally do daily. :(

Ruth Ann...you always have such great advice :)

Sarahbell-Condolences on the loss of your grandfather. I bet you will receive lots of compliments for your hard work in losing weight!

I am on cloud nine because I am finally out of plus sizes. I was so happy to fit in a pair of size 14 jeans-I bought 5 pairs of pants just because of the size! (This was at Ross-so they weren't too expensive)

Congrats on the size 8s! That is great!

And yes, getting right back to 100% is the way to go. You can't change what happened but you can change what happens now. Keep working that "determination muscle" and you'll make it super strong!

Aw thanks. I've learned so much here, only seems fair to give back some.

Yeah for being out of plus-sizes! It's still hard for me to go into the store and not immediately head for the largest size available - my brain doesn't always remember that I can wear smaller sizes!

thanks Ruth Ann. I love the encouragement and advice from these boards. My coach is not very good and I am the type of person who needs to get feedback and change things up.

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My coach texted me last night and the clinic had to cancel all coaching appointments today. Apparently they are having some chamber of commerce event and it will be too crazy.

Luckily I got rescheduled for tomorrow at the same time. Kind of a disappointment, but oh well. I seem to do better on Wednesdays. Maybe I'm superstitious.

Yay to everyone's victories - on AND off the scale!

I had a NSV today as I am wearing a pair of size 6 jeans I ordered off of the internet and they fit! Never in my wildest dreams did I think a size 6 pair of pants and a size medium shirt would be for me.

I am so thankful for IP. I've lost weight through the diet and exercise route before and kept it off by working HARD, until I gave up and the weight crept back on. With IP, I weigh myself often and if I notice the scale creeping, I reboot. I'm not saying its not hard, I'm saying if you stick with it, it is so worth it. Nevermind the added benefit that the initial results don't take as long as the traditional route.

My intital goal weight was 150 and every so often I drop it by five. I now weigh 138 and have much more endurance while running. Even during these last 3-8lbs (still haven't decided how low to go), it is coming off MUCH slower, but that's okay! I feel great and I'm wearing a size 6, dang it!!!

Sorry for the ramble, but I just want to encourage anyone with doubt that if you stay the course, wonderful things can AND WILL happen to your body and your self confidence.

This is what tinny wrote in the 90% thread and I think that it is an appropriate response to the way you are feeling:

I think the downside of being black and white 100% is that you set yourself up for feeling like a failure if you do have a slip - whether it be planned or unintentional. I think the black and white mentality can lead to thoughts like, "Gee, I've really blown this day by licking my kid's ice cream cone, so I might as well have pizza and beer for dinner."

If you allow yourself to consider the occasional slip as OK, you can view that same situation as, "Hmm, I wish I hadn't done that, but I know that there is a little bit of wiggle room in my day. As long as I stick to the straight and narrow I should be all right."

ahhhh I know how you feel! I had one previous slip and I just thought, "I can't change that so I'll just continue on!" But the last couple of days even though I haven't been hungry, I've been wanting to eat! I finally caved a couple of days ago and had some cheese and two restricted in one day... this time I was feeling really down about it and questioning if I should just phase off before my Hawaii vacation... I decided to give yesterday 100% and see how I felt... yesterday went good and I had a great talk with my coach who encouraged me to just follow through and get it done!!

I think most of my issues were definitely head games and I think I was trying to sabatage myself! Today I feel positive and ready to get the last of this weight off... no more beating myself up!! It happens, just as long as its not often!! I also started in September so I thinking I'm doing OK!

I could not agree more with you on this and like you I watch the scale and reboot when necessary. Right now I am on a 30 day phase 1 to kick off 6-8lbs gain and hopefully go down a lower goal...not to mention do some palette retraining. You are right about it not being easy BUT it is worth it. I have been looking at photos this week for a work project and man, I cannot believe how I let myself and my health go. I wish I would have discovered IP years ago when the weight gain began.

Yes, looking at your stats I'd say you are doing MORE than ok! What fantastic losses, you must be so proud! Thank you all for your words of encouragement and understanding. My coach is very...not nice...so I didn't even put my transgressions in my journal and have been trying to think of lies in anticipation of my lack of loss at my next WI. I realize THAT'S no way to approach a coaching session...but honestly I get WAY more support on these boards than I do from her.

I'm going to have to disagree with the bolded part. Slips can and do occur and no one should feel beat up about it. Instead they should be encouraged to get right back OP and strive to not let it happen again.

But there really is no "wiggle room" if you want to achieve the best results on this plan. That kind of thinking is what led most of us to gain weight in the first place. I know there are people who modify the diet to suit themselves and that is fine - if they are okay with slower losses, they are adults and make their own decisions and I respect that. But the thought that "oh, just a little won't hurt" can lead to some very bad results.

Part of P1 is to learn to moderate and be mindful of what you are eating. Learning good habits now will help with maintenance in the future. Discipline is a key component of learning how to eat for the rest of your life.

It is hard. We all have our challenges and things we have to deal with. How you deal with those things now is important. When I had to go on a low fiber diet prior to surgery I just about cried. I thought about giving up but instead made it work with IP. If you consider every challenge as an excuse for wiggle room exactly what are you learning as far as eating habits go? The time to think about what you are eating is before you eat it.

I'm not a perfect person, but I have managed to stay OP for 10 months. For the first time in my life I am in control rather than the food being in control.

Sorry for the long post.

So, not having a loss in one week isn't really a stall. A true stall would be 4-6 weeks (or more!) with no changes in scale or measurements. Remember that weight loss isn't linear. We can do everything right and our body can hold onto water weight or whatever that particular week. It is all part of the process. You're doing great! 20 in 6 weeks!

With less weight to lose than many other folks here, you simply cannot compare your rate of weight loss to that of other.s How much have you lost in 2 weeks?
If you're having your 3 packets, 4 c veggies, oil, water, salt and 2 salads/day then I say you're doing great. Some folks find they lose faster if they include those salads daily.

Okay, enuf! Get yourself back in the 100%ers thread for support. You're there today. No need to dwell on the weekend. It was several days ago and cant be changed at this point anyway. No need to confess further, just move forward :)
Congrats on the saggy pants (lol...I work in the inner city where all the men wear those silly saggy pants...I bet it isn't THAT bad!)

Lisa, RuthAnn & All, thank you so much for your encouragement and support! I know it's unrealistic to expect huge losses overnight and the important thing to focus on is that the scale IS going down every day. I'm not sure of my measurements and inches lost, but I do know my jeans are feeling less tight. Five pounds in two weeks is nothing to feel discouraged about and I'm determined to keep up with this plan!

I wholeheartedly agree RuthAnn. When I first started IP, I compared the tickers of the people tweaking the program to suit themselves and the tickers of the 100 percenters and I made a choice for me personally just as everyone else has to make their own personal choice... but I thought the tickers spoke for themselves and that's why I try very hard to stick to the IP "rules" and stay OP!

MntRose,

Sorry to hear about your health and that you are struggling. I hope you find some resolution for your pain. Wishing you :dust:

Ok - so this is the first time since July (and starting IP) that I want a drink. I won't have one because I remember what they said at the orientation that you need to consider that going off program will cost you one week in food. Also, I have been 100% OP since the beginning and if I let myself cheat, I am afraid I will never go back 100% OP.

I am going to dinner with a friend tonight and he won't pressure me to have a drink I know that. But it is just weird that after all this time I have a desire for a drink. It would be a celebratory drink (I am pretty sure I will be promoted in April) as well as a "I've had a hard day drink."

I will settle for water with lemon and then just chalk it up to a NSV.

Thanks for letting me vent - it took away some of the desire for a drink getting it down in writing.

Congrats on the possible promotion! How exciting. I completely understand where you are coming from. I have had urges to drink here and there but have not done it. Like you, I think about wasting a week worth of food. Great outlook as having it as an NSV! My birthday is tomorrow and a few of my friends want to go grab drinks tomorrow night and I keep thinking....I don't really want to go to a bar to get a club soda while yall drink in honor of my birthday. I'd rather be out to dinner where I can hear all of you, eat something on IP and enjoy myself! It's tough not drinking. Not matter the celebration. Our society just looks at it as a tool in celebration. I wish we didn't.