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Iolani 01-17-2014 08:13 AM

Whole Foods sells the Quest bars for a lot cheaper than GNC. If you buy the box of 12, you get a discount too.

skinnybride2be 01-17-2014 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lisa32989 (Post 4921227)
Repost of my previous post:

Here is the list I made again. I added the new flavors.

The Quest Coconut Cashew bars don't fit our IP profile for alts (or maybe you could call them Super-restricted and limit to once/week). They have too much fat. Take fat calories (60) multiply by 3 (no more than 1/3 calories from fat) and you can see that there are too many calories from fat in this bar. You'd want no more than 56 calories from fat to be less than 1/3
The other Quest Bars that don't work (based on fat content) or would be Super Restricted:
Vanilla Almond Crunch,
Mixed Berry Bliss,
Peanut Butter Supreme,
Peanut Butter & Jelly,
White Chocolate Raspberry,
Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough


All of the other Quest bars would be restricted. There are two that fall right on the edge between restricted & non (Choc Peanut butter & Strawberry Cheesecake). Fat cals are under 1/3 (but not way under) and they both have 8 g net carbs. I still personally call them restricted, altho some use them as nonrestricted. Make your decisions carefully and determine what works based on WIs.

most IP products have 12-18g protein so I use 20 as my upper limit for 1 pk


So, I ordered one of the 12 pack variety's yesterday, and I got to thinking about this post. I had been looking at the alternative cheat sheet, and for some reason I was thinking up to 200 calories, which would make the majority of the bars unrestricted. However, after reading the posts here, I'm going to side with making these restricted, and some super restricted. So the thought that I was kind of bouncing around last night, for those bars that are pretty off from normal IP bars, could I split those in half, and eat over the course of 2 days and consider that 1/2 piece as unrestricted. What I haven't worked out yet is if I did that, would that be too far under what a normal IP unrestricted packet would be, since I doubt I could have a 1/2 bar plus a packet.

What are your thoughts?

I'm mostly concerned because I think I knocked myself out of Ketosis since I was starving last night, and I may have misread a label or something.

ColoradoCarol 01-17-2014 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iolani (Post 4921512)
Whole Foods sells the Quest bars for a lot cheaper than GNC. If you buy the box of 12, you get a discount too.

Thanks Iolani - I don't have a Whole Foods real close to me or my work - but there is a GNC right next door. I am just going to pick up a couple of them right now, to see if I like them. If I do then I will make sure to go to Whole Foods to buy a box.

Happy Friday!

IdealProteinNewbie 01-17-2014 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by skinnybride2be (Post 4921610)
So, I ordered one of the 12 pack variety's yesterday, and I got to thinking about this post. I had been looking at the alternative cheat sheet, and for some reason I was thinking up to 200 calories, which would make the majority of the bars unrestricted. However, after reading the posts here, I'm going to side with making these restricted, and some super restricted. So the thought that I was kind of bouncing around last night, for those bars that are pretty off from normal IP bars, could I split those in half, and eat over the course of 2 days and consider that 1/2 piece as unrestricted. What I haven't worked out yet is if I did that, would that be too far under what a normal IP unrestricted packet would be, since I doubt I could have a 1/2 bar plus a packet.

What are your thoughts?

I'm mostly concerned because I think I knocked myself out of Ketosis since I was starving last night, and I may have misread a label or something.

Non-restricted are mostly 80-150 calories and restricted are mostly 160-200.

You couldn't split it in half because then you wouldn't have enough protein.

I would stick with using the ones Lisa pointed out as your restricted for the day.

skinnybride2be 01-17-2014 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by IdealProteinNewbie (Post 4921640)
Non-restricted are mostly 80-150 calories and restricted are mostly 160-200.

You couldn't split it in half because then you wouldn't have enough protein.

I would stick with using the ones Lisa pointed out as your restricted for the day.

Ok, guess the hubby is getting my extra bars. Lucky guy :)

lisa32989 01-17-2014 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by skinnybride2be (Post 4921664)
Ok, guess the hubby is getting my extra bars. Lucky guy :)

Just keep them for restricteds.
You'll need them over time.

Ugh73 01-17-2014 12:49 PM

I had to get some to see what all the hubbub was about.
I guess I could take em or leave em, I got the buy 3 get 1 free and have tried the chocolate chunk and cookie dough.
I think it's the texture, kind of sandy. The numbers reminded me of all the low carb bread debates from my first time on this diet.
I also scanned one into my fitness pal and it had total carbs as 3 (instead of 21) and still had the fiber content as 17 so watch out for that if you track numbers.

lisa32989 01-17-2014 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ugh73 (Post 4921799)
I had to get some to see what all the hubbub was about.
I guess I could take em or leave em, I got the buy 3 get 1 free and have tried the chocolate chunk and cookie dough.
I think it's the texture, kind of sandy. The numbers reminded me of all the low carb bread debates from my first time on this diet.
I also scanned one into my fitness pal and it had total carbs as 3 (instead of 21) and still had the fiber content as 17 so watch out for that if you track numbers.

Someone probably entered net carbs, rather than total. Remember, MFP is user-entered.
But they must've subtracted sugar alcohol, as well (which I don't do...I only subtract fiber) or else they just miscalculated. I'd count 21-17=4 net carbs.

I would count the cookie dough as a super restricted based on fat content.

dak1lls 01-17-2014 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ugh73 (Post 4921799)
I had to get some to see what all the hubbub was about.
I guess I could take em or leave em, I got the buy 3 get 1 free and have tried the chocolate chunk and cookie dough.
I think it's the texture, kind of sandy. The numbers reminded me of all the low carb bread debates from my first time on this diet.
I also scanned one into my fitness pal and it had total carbs as 3 (instead of 21) and still had the fiber content as 17 so watch out for that if you track numbers.

DH and I tried the Quest Bars some time ago and felt the same. I really wanted to love them, as so many others do. That way, I could buy some locally in a pinch. I think it is a texture thing for me. DH didn't care for them all that much either. We did try the Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough bar and warmed it up, as others had mentioned. It was ok, but just not our fave. We all definitely have different tastes.

I agree with Lisa on the MFP info. I have found a wide range of info and at first it confused me. Because it is user entered, you really need to verify. I usually Google a product if I have questions and look at the manufacturer's web site to get the actual info straight from the source before entering it in MFP.

Ugh73 01-17-2014 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by lisa32989 (Post 4921807)
Someone probably entered net carbs, rather than total. Remember, MFP is user-entered.
But they must've subtracted sugar alcohol, as well (which I don't do...I only subtract fiber) or else they just miscalculated. I'd count 21-17=4 net carbs.

I would count the cookie dough as a super restricted based on fat content.

It happened when I scanned the actual barcode on the product.

Ruth Ann 01-17-2014 01:10 PM

Someone gave me a bunch of the Quest bars so I thought I'd try them (besides, I'm cheap and won't pass up free product!). They're ok - but I'm not in love with them. I suspect I would buy them in a pinch, but not my favorite. Funny how all our tastes differ.

djs06 01-17-2014 01:45 PM

I only like them microwaved! Eating them "straight" does nothing for me.

trinny 01-17-2014 02:40 PM

Just ate my first one - cinnamon roll. Add me to the "just ok" club. At first it was pretty good but then it seemed like I'd never get to the end of it. Also I hated it up and the texture got strange as it cooled. I kind of rolled it into bite sized dough balls.

I just commented to my mother that whoever says these are to die for must be really tired of shakes!

JLUS 01-17-2014 07:01 PM

Also just ok for me.

I did follow a suggestion from an old Quest thread ... cut them into small bits and baked (in the oven) until soft and almost soft-cookie-hot-out-of-the-oven texture. Ate them still very warm and that was probably my favorite way to have them! Did that with cinnamon roll, brownie and cookie dough.

jendilly 01-17-2014 07:23 PM

Funny, I just saw an "ad" for them on facebook, so came here to look at the alternatives thread to see what you all would say about them...and then saw this post up top about Quest bars. I was going to look and see if they were restricted or what. I'd love to try some different bars than IP, just to save some money, but I'm looking for unrestricted items. Are there ANY bars out there that are unrestricted?

serlinr 01-17-2014 07:50 PM

So funny! I really love Quest bars!

swimcoachmomma 01-17-2014 08:27 PM

I have now had a whole bar at a sitting twice, and both times I spent the next day starving to death!!! So clearly while the fiber and sugar alcohol don't count in the net carb conversion, this food certainly woke Walter!!! (He is my carb dragon). I have since decided that instead of avoiding these bars altogether I cut them into 10 or 12 pieces and enjoy a little piece now and then. So far Walter stays asleep which is good and I get a smackerel of yummy!!

ang2576 01-18-2014 11:46 AM

My DH swears by these bars! He lost 55 lbs in 3 months on IP, was 100% protocol for 3"weeks them switched to the bars and the Pure protein shakes from Costco for snacks.... He has been very successful using these and loves them. I'm hoping for the same success.

workingit50 01-18-2014 12:06 PM

I am a HUGE fan of the bars and tried them all. At this point, I only buy vanilla, choc chunk and a few strawberries. I can eat them all day and they really satisfy me and keep my hunger at bay. However, I crave them and I have found when sticking to P1, they are too high in calories unless I really watch my other foods.

Kimmie in AZ 01-19-2014 06:45 PM

Was out today and bought the Lemon Cream Pie one. Took one bit and tossed it. Tasted like soap to me.

skinnybride2be 01-21-2014 01:26 PM

So could you "technically" eat the Strawberry Cheesecake and Chocolate Peanut butter bars for all three packets since they are unrestricted?

lisa32989 01-21-2014 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skinnybride2be (Post 4925003)
So could you "technically" eat the Strawberry Cheesecake and Chocolate Peanut butter bars for all three packets since they are unrestricted?

They ride the fence between restricted and unrestricted.
Most people have more success if more of their unrestricted are lower calorie (around 100)

BLUEJEWEL 01-26-2014 11:57 AM

I get tired of the pure protein bars, and my friend mamazu introduced me to the Simple Bars...they are very good, and great ingredients and completely OP. I have purchased them from Amazon twice, though they can be too good , in that you may want to eat more than 1! :)
Just another option for us

http://www.wellnessfoods.ca/

mars735 01-26-2014 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLUEJEWEL (Post 4928696)
I get tired of the pure protein bars, and my friend mamazu introduced me to the Simple Bars...they are very good, and great ingredients and completely OP. I have purchased them from Amazon twice, though they can be too good , in that you may want to eat more than 1! :)
Just another option for us

http://www.wellnessfoods.ca/

Oh wow, these look great! I'm caseine-sensitive and so the whey alternative is fabulous for me. I hope they don't taste too good, lol. (In my perfect world, these bars, which are like crack to my sweet-addicted brain, would be sold in regular grocery stores so you can buy one at a time). Thanks for the tip!

mars735 01-26-2014 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kimmie in AZ (Post 4923491)
Was out today and bought the Lemon Cream Pie one. Took one bit and tossed it. Tasted like soap to me.

Did the same exact thing yesterday, and also with Apple Pie. I do enjoy the Banana Nut. The trick for me is find one that tastes good but not TOO good. On P1, BBQ Soynuts worked this way, but on P4, they just don't have enough calories to hold me.

patns 01-26-2014 01:14 PM

I don't find I get cravings from the quest bars or the simply bars. They are good and I enjoy them but have no problem limiting them to one a day and I really need the high fibre in the quest bar. It is the ones that are more like chocolate bars like the smaller Oh Yeah bars I really have to watch, one tastes like more.

trinny 01-27-2014 10:43 AM

I was in GNC yesterday to buy some Quest bars and the salesperson was trying to steer me towards a different bar and said that there was some controversy involving the Quest bars being mislabeled. I did a google search and didn't see anything, but has anyone else heard any scuttlebutt?

Also, he talked me out of getting the chocolate brownie in favor of the double chocolate chunk. Had the chocolate chunk last night and thought it was pretty good - until I had a strange aftertaste in my mouth for the next hour. It wouldn't be so bad except I bought a whole box of them.

So, I'm hating the GNC sales guy for making me insecure about eating Quest bars in the first place and then giving me bad advice on the flavor.

IdealProteinNewbie 01-27-2014 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trinny (Post 4929529)
I was in GNC yesterday to buy some Quest bars and the salesperson was trying to steer me towards a different bar and said that there was some controversy involving the Quest bars being mislabeled. I did a google search and didn't see anything, but has anyone else heard any scuttlebutt?

Also, he talked me out of getting the chocolate brownie in favor of the double chocolate chunk. Had the chocolate chunk last night and thought it was pretty good - until I had a strange aftertaste in my mouth for the next hour. It wouldn't be so bad except I bought a whole box of them.

So, I'm hating the GNC sales guy for making me insecure about eating Quest bars in the first place and then giving me bad advice on the flavor.

Was he trying to steer you towards GNC's Lean bars? They always do that to me...my guess is they earn more commission on their brand.

I heard about that lawsuit, but Quest is fighting it.

trinny 01-27-2014 12:16 PM

Yes, it was the Lean Bars. It had 260 calories so definitely a no go.

Good to know he was doing the hard sell, as it makes me take his comment re mislabeling with a grain of salt as I guess he has another agenda.

Hockeymom40 01-27-2014 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trinny (Post 4929529)
I was in GNC yesterday to buy some Quest bars and the salesperson was trying to steer me towards a different bar and said that there was some controversy involving the Quest bars being mislabeled. I did a google search and didn't see anything, but has anyone else heard any scuttlebutt?

Also, he talked me out of getting the chocolate brownie in favor of the double chocolate chunk. Had the chocolate chunk last night and thought it was pretty good - until I had a strange aftertaste in my mouth for the next hour. It wouldn't be so bad except I bought a whole box of them.

So, I'm hating the GNC sales guy for making me insecure about eating Quest bars in the first place and then giving me bad advice on the flavor.

I haven't had them try to get me to buy another brand but 2 different guys suggested the Raseberry. I did try ONE, but I have to have chocolate!

IdealProteinNewbie 01-27-2014 12:32 PM

The saleswoman at GNC this weekend said they're coming out with a cookies and cream Quest bar in February.

Don't know if it'll fit nutritionally but I hope so!

lisa32989 01-27-2014 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IdealProteinNewbie (Post 4929541)
Was he trying to steer you towards GNC's Lean bars? They always do that to me...my guess is they earn more commission on their brand.

I heard about that lawsuit, but Quest is fighting it.

http://blog.questproteinbar.com/fiber-count/

http://blog.questproteinbar.com/intr...cookies-cream/

IdealProteinNewbie 01-27-2014 12:50 PM

Thanks Lisa...was going to do some research on it but didn't get around to it yet!

trinny 01-27-2014 01:21 PM


Wow, Lisa, thanks for the links! You're in the know once again!

nacygirl1 02-02-2014 06:37 AM

GNC...grrr!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trinny (Post 4929529)
I was in GNC yesterday to buy some Quest bars and the salesperson was trying to steer me towards a different bar and said that there was some controversy involving the Quest bars being mislabeled. I did a google search and didn't see anything, but has anyone else heard any scuttlebutt?

Also, he talked me out of getting the chocolate brownie in favor of the double chocolate chunk. Had the chocolate chunk last night and thought it was pretty good - until I had a strange aftertaste in my mouth for the next hour. It wouldn't be so bad except I bought a whole box of them.

So, I'm hating the GNC sales guy for making me insecure about eating Quest bars in the first place and then giving me bad advice on the flavor.

GNC sales people are always trying to get me to buy what they suggest. Just ignore them pesky people and stick to your guns about what YOU want!! :dancer:

amt6 02-04-2014 02:13 PM

Does anyone know if the cookies n cream bars will be unrestricted/restricted/super restricted?

65X65 02-04-2014 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by amt6 (Post 4936245)
Does anyone know if the cookies n cream bars will be unrestricted/restricted/super restricted?

If these are the right ones: Pulled this off the internet..

http://lghttp.24811.nexcesscdn.net/8...kiesncream.png
Cookies & Cream
http://lghttp.24811.nexcesscdn.net/8.../n/cnc_box.jpg 21g Protein

INGREDIENTS: Protein Blend (Whey Protein Isolate, Milk Protein Isolate), Isomalto-Oligosaccharides* (Prebiotic Fiber), Water, Almonds, Cocoa Butter, Erythritol. Contains less than 2% of the following: Cocoa Powder, Natural Flavors, Coconut Oil, Sea Salt, Sunflower Lecithin, Dextrin, Baking Soda, Steviol Glycosides (Stevia), Sucralose.
Nutrition Facts
Serving Size 1 Bar (60g)
Calories 180
Calories from Fat 60
*Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet

Amount/Serving
%Daily Value*
Total Fat 7g
11%
Saturated Fat 3g
15%
Trans Fat 0g

Cholesterol 5mg
2%
Sodium 310mg
13%
Vitamin A 0%

Vitamin C 0%
Magnesium 6%

Phosphorus 10%

Amount/Serving
%Daily Value*
Potassium 95mg
3%
Total Carbohydrate 22g
7%
Dietary Fiber 17g
68%
Sugars 1g

Erythritol 2g

Protein 21g

Calcium 15%

Iron 2%


Contains: Almonds, Coconut and Milk Derived Ingredients

Lynnie63 02-04-2014 02:49 PM

Netrition.com has the bars - both the natural with the Stevia and the others. Plus, you can buy one at a time if you want to test drive a few.

Pricing is good too. Shipping is only $4.95 no matter how much you buy.

I buy my Walden Farms from them and I'm taking the Alive vitamins and get them there too.

I've placed many orders and are very happy with them. I live in Conn. and get my order the next day or day after.

sstw1 02-04-2014 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by amt6 (Post 4936245)
Does anyone know if the cookies n cream bars will be unrestricted/restricted/super restricted?

Restricted

amt6 02-06-2014 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by sstw1 (Post 4936309)
Restricted

Thanks! Anyone try 'em yet?


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