My coach gave me a sheet with the nutritional value of all the products. I don't pay much attention right now, I know the % matters more in the later phases. The restricted foods seem to be those higher in carbs, not fat, but I know the more fat you take in, then less you will burn.

High fat items;
BBQ soy nuts 140 cals/60 from fat
Chocolate soy snacks 150 cals/60 from fat
Choc drink UHT 100 cals/35 from fat
Dill pickle zippers 190 cals/70 from fat
Garlic soy nuts 140cals/60 from fat
Peanut butter protein bar 170 clas/60 from fat
Peanut soy puffs 160 cals/60 from fat
Vanill a drink UHT 100 cals/35 from fat

Originally Posted by kcandponies:
My coach gave me a sheet with the nutritional value of all the products. I don't pay much attention right now, I know the % matters more in the later phases. The restricted foods seem to be those higher in carbs, not fat, but I know the more fat you take in, then less you will burn.

High fat items;
BBQ soy nuts 140 cals/60 from fat
Chocolate soy snacks 150 cals/60 from fat
Choc drink UHT 100 cals/35 from fat
Dill pickle zippers 190 cals/70 from fat
Garlic soy nuts 140cals/60 from fat
Peanut butter protein bar 170 clas/60 from fat
Peanut soy puffs 160 cals/60 from fat
Vanill a drink UHT 100 cals/35 from fat

Wow! I was right - not products I use, but good to know! Thanks!

Originally Posted by Princess Peacock:
I am not familiar with any IP products that have that much fat. Maybe they are not any of the products I use regularly. Would you mind sharing which IP products you are referring to, that have 30-40% fat? I want to avoid those in the future - Thanks!

Originally Posted by kcandponies:
My coach gave me a sheet with the nutritional value of all the products. I don't pay much attention right now, I know the % matters more in the later phases. The restricted foods seem to be those higher in carbs, not fat, but I know the more fat you take in, then less you will burn.

High fat items;
BBQ soy nuts 140 cals/60 from fat
Chocolate soy snacks 150 cals/60 from fat
Choc drink UHT 100 cals/35 from fat
Dill pickle zippers 190 cals/70 from fat
Garlic soy nuts 140cals/60 from fat
Peanut butter protein bar 170 clas/60 from fat
Peanut soy puffs 160 cals/60 from fat
Vanill a drink UHT 100 cals/35 from fat

Originally Posted by Princess Peacock:
Wow! I was right - not products I use, but good to know! Thanks!

KC's list has most of them. Wafers and the caramel nut bar are two more. The BBQ soy nuts are the highest.

Hi all -- I started running 2 weeks ago and my coach said I need an extra packet on days I run. It's only 3 days per week (following C25k), so I figured Quest bars would be a good addition to my otherwise all-IP protocol, and because I'm burning calories running, I can use them as this "extra" packet.

I have read through this thread and wanted to make sure I am on the right page. The following bars can be used as an extra because they are less than 30% calories from fat and all the other criteria:
-Chocolate Brownie
-Strawberry Cheesecake
-Cinnamon Roll
-Apple Pie
-Chocolate Peanut Butter
-Lemon Cream Pie

The following are no good:
-Double Chocolate Chunk (too many carbs)
-Cookie Dough
-Peanut Butter Supreme
-Coconut Cashew
-White Chocolate Raspberry
-Vanilla Almond Crunch
-Mixed Berry
-PB&J
-Banana Nut Muffin (too many carbs)

I hope this list is helpful for someone, and also that I'm doing the math correctly. Please correct me if I'm not!! Have a great Sunday :)

I'm traveling & on my phone.
Will update later when on my computer & referencing multiple screens at one
I listed good bars to choose a while back
The new double chocolate chunk is a good one for IP

Most of the ones that don't work as well, it is due to fat content.

I count all as restricted (remember IP isn't only calories, only carbs, or only fat)
There are only 2 I would consider as nonrestricted due to carb/fat content but cals are higher than I like my non restricted to be (especially for a 4th packet)
One is the strawberry cheesecake.
I'll have to look up the other when I'm home this evening

Originally Posted by lisa32989:
I'm traveling & on my phone.
Will update later when on my computer & referencing multiple screens at one
I listed good bars to choose a while back
The new double chocolate chunk is a good one for IP

Most if the ones that don't work as well, it is due to fat content.

I count all as restricted (remember IP isn't only calories, only carbs, or only fat)
There are only 2 I would consider as nonestricted due to carb/fat content but cals are higher than I like my non restricted to be (especially for a 4th packet)
One is the strawberry cheesecake.
I'll have to look up the other when I'm home this evening

I believe the other one is the chocolate peanut butter.

I like the Quest bars. Sometimes though my local store has them and they are not as soft as they could be. Lisa suggested that ordering directly from the Quest site means they come in the best softest state possible. I searched for a coupon code online before ordering tonight and the code OnAQuest gave me free shipping! I thought I'd post it here in case someone else needs it.

Here is the list I made again. I added the new flavors. To specifically address amt6's question, the double chocolate chunk AND the banana nut muffin are fine. Neither have too many net carbs (or cals or fat) to be restricteds.

The Quest Bars that don't work (based on fat content) or would be Super Restricted (once/week):
Vanilla Almond Crunch,
Mixed Berry Bliss,
Peanut Butter Supreme,
Peanut Butter & Jelly,
White Chocolate Raspberry,
Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough


All of the other Quest bars would be restricted. There are two that fall right on the edge between restricted & non (Choc Peanut butter & Strawberry Cheesecake). Fat cals are under 1/3 (but not way under) and they both have 8 g net carbs. I'd still personally them restricted, altho some use them as nonrestricted. Make your decisions carefully and determine what works based on WIs.

This is the first time I've been back on the site since asking my question. Just wanted to say thanks Lisa for taking the time to answer so thoroughly!

Originally Posted by lisa32989:
Here is the list I made again. I added the new flavors. To specifically address amt6's question, the double chocolate chunk AND the banana nut muffin are fine. Neither have too many net carbs (or cals or fat) to be restricteds.

The Quest Coconut Cashew bars don't fit our IP profile for alts (or maybe you could call them Super-restricted and limit to once/week). They have too much fat. Take fat calories (60) multiply by 3 (no more than 1/3 calories from fat) and you can see that there are too many calories from fat in this bar. You'd want no more than 56 calories from fat to be less than 1/3
The other Quest Bars that don't work (based on fat content) or would be Super Restricted:
Vanilla Almond Crunch,
Mixed Berry Bliss,
Peanut Butter Supreme,
Peanut Butter & Jelly,
White Chocolate Raspberry,
Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough


All of the other Quest bars would be restricted. There are two that fall right on the edge between restricted & non (Choc Peanut butter & Strawberry Cheesecake). Fat cals are under 1/3 (but not way under) and they both have 8 g net carbs. I'd still personally them restricted, altho some use them as nonrestricted. Make your decisions carefully and determine what works based on WIs.

Thanks for this list. My coach suggested Queste bars for DH since he wants to follow the IP program since I'm doing it, but I know he won't do the WI.

Thanks, Lisa! The new double chocolate chunk are yummy and I respond better to stevia than to sucralose so this is great news! Www.netrition.com already has them and they ship overnight! The Quest website took over a week....

I'm thinking the chocolate chip cookie dough shouldn't be considered a super-restricted based on fat content. It is 190 calories with 70 calories from fat.

IP's strawberry wafer which has no restrictions, other than no more than 1 per day, is 200 calories with 80 coming from fat.

YMMV on Quest Bars
I find my losses stall if i eat the higher calorie/fat ones.
But that could just be me...
I stick with the 160 calorie Strawberry Cheesecake and Peanut Butter Chocolate ones.

Yup. There are ones I like more but I seem to crave more when I eat them.

Just personal experience here.

Originally Posted by lisa32989:
YMMV on Quest Bars
I find my losses stall if i eat the higher calorie/fat ones.
But that could just be me...
I stick with the 160 calorie Strawberry Cheesecake and Peanut Butter Chocolate ones.

Yup. There are ones I like more but I seem to crave more when I eat them.

Just personal experience here.

It is funny how certain foods cause cravings for some and not for others.

Personally I always feel so satisfied after a Quest bar (maybe because of the high fiber content) but wanting another IP peanut crunch bar which I have been avoiding for that very reason!

I didn't know they were restricted. Yikes! I've had a couple days where i ate three of them - one for each IP meal. I'm so glad i saw this. I've had painful dental work done so now I'm just on pudding for a few days.

I was driving past a GNC at lunchtime so I decided to stop and purchase 1, and only 1, Quest bar. I had it for lunch on the road, and had my veggies as soon as I got home. More than one in the house is dangerous for me. The frugal part of me hated passing up the "buy 3 get 1 free", but I know my limits.
In fact, just having that one bar as my lunch protein packet has left me craving more. Thank goodness I didn't bring any more home.

Originally Posted by IdealProteinNewbie:
I'm thinking the chocolate chip cookie dough shouldn't be considered a super-restricted based on fat content. It is 190 calories with 70 calories from fat.

IP's strawberry wafer which has no restrictions, other than no more than 1 per day, is 200 calories with 80 coming from fat.

Wouldn't that make it not allowed? Because more than 30% of the calories come from fat...

Originally Posted by leasie:
Wouldn't that make it not allowed? Because more than 30% of the calories come from fat...

No, there are several IP products that have more than 30% calories from fat.

Princess: I have the same problem with Quest bards. Have to buy one. And not the ones I like the best (double choc chunk or choc chip cookie dough)

Originally Posted by IdealProteinNewbie:
No, there are several IP products that have more than 30% calories from fat.

But the "guidelines" for choosing alts is based on averages & on average, most IP foods are below 30%

Originally Posted by lisa32989:
But the "guidelines" for choosing alts is based on averages & on average, most IP foods are below 30%

But she said not "allowed", not necessarily restricted vs. non-restricted.

Originally Posted by lisa32989:
Princess: I have the same problem with Quest bards. Have to buy one. And not the ones I like the best (double choc chunk or choc chip cookie dough)

My favorite is the cinnamon roll - so yummy! But SEE THERE - I'm still thinking about the one I had for lunch!! why oh why do I do that?! Dangerous for me! If I had bought a box, I would have eaten a box!
Guess I will have my water and go to bed - LOL! But, it was worth it.

for a treat I like to heat them a bit in my microwave or better yet in a convection oven at 375 for about 5 mins.

I have found that a Quest bar for breakfast really does the trick for me. Have been eating Quest bars for maybe a year now. Was enjoying them long before I found IP.

I was eating a chocolate chip cookie dough quest bar when I opened and read this thread! LOL! I consider all Quest bars a once-a-day restricted for me. Like some, I find they really satisfy my sweet tooth. The other reason I like them so much is because I feel so FULL after I eat one. I can eat some of the IP restricteds and it's like I didn't put any food in my mouth at all- still totally hungry after. It's nice to find a restricted that leaves me full and provides the fiber missing from IP only products.

However, I can see how they would be a hinderance to anyone who has struggled with binge eating. I guess this is one of the times when you really need to know yourself and what your triggers are- then avoid them. Good job PP on only buying a single bar. That was a good strategy.

I was looking at GNC's website at the nutrition info for the newest bar the "double Chocolate Chuck" and on the front of the ba it says "3 net carbs" but total carbs are 25g, and Fiber is 16g, wouldn't that make it a 9 net carb?

Originally Posted by Deana509:
I was looking at GNC's website at the nutrition info for the newest bar the "double Chocolate Chuck" and on the front of the ba it says "3 net carbs" but total carbs are 25g, and Fiber is 16g, wouldn't that make it a 9 net carb?

For my purposes, yes. This is why it is important to do your own math and not rely on labeling from companies. They are also subtracting the sugar alcohols. I do not. I find they have an impact in my blood sugar ;and hence, insulin production). Ymmv
This is also why I count those bars as restricteds.

Originally Posted by QuestNutrition:
evepet, we greatly appreciate your support! :) What are your favorite flavors?

Apple pie - gotta be apple pie...

Originally Posted by QuestNutrition:
evepet, we greatly appreciate your support! :) What are your favorite flavors?

Chocolate brownie!

Today is my 3rd day back on plan, I am tired, cranky, blah, blah, blah. Came home and was hungry like a bear. Was so excited to find that I had one chocolate brownie quest bar left. I count it a one of my package for the day. I am now a happy camper.

Originally Posted by QuestNutrition:
:) What are your favorite flavors?

chocolate chip cookie dough, chocolate peanut butter, peanut butter supreme, cinnamon roll

I tried the double chocolate chunk yesterday, and that is my new favorite. The guy at GNC told me it was his fav so I gave it a shot. Regardless of which one I have, I count it as my restricted, but find them super satisfying and they really tide me over way more than the IP restricteds.

Originally Posted by Sally4397:
I tried the double chocolate chunk yesterday, and that is my new favorite. The guy at GNC told me it was his fav so I gave it a shot. Regardless of which one I have, I count it as my restricted, but find them super satisfying and they really tide me over way more than the IP restricteds.

Me too! I love this flavor. I only recently tried Quest bars.

Originally Posted by psjones:
chocolate chip cookie dough, chocolate peanut butter, peanut butter supreme, cinnamon roll

Those might be great for folks at goal but the Peanut Butter Supreme doesn't work for P1, with over 200 calories and over 30% fat.

Chocolate Chip Cookie dough is also over 30% fat, so I count it as super-restricted (once/week)

Bump

Looking forward to shopping for quest bars after reading this thread!

Bought my first Quest bars today at GNC during my lunch break. I picked up 1 chocolate brownie, 1 strawberry cheesecake, and 1 chocolate peanut butter. The chocolate brownie one only has 5 net carbs! I fee so bad eating it. I'm not sure if I'll count it as restricted or not...technically it is, but I still can't get over eating something with 24g carbs...although it also has 19g fiber. Anyway, it was definitely hard as a brick when i first tried it, so I popped it in the microwave for 20 seconds and it's super soft and yummy. This could be a diet-changer for me.

Originally Posted by Mom2Carter:
Bought my first Quest bars today at GNC during my lunch break. I picked up 1 chocolate brownie, 1 strawberry cheesecake, and 1 chocolate peanut butter. The chocolate brownie one only has 5 net carbs! I fee so bad eating it. I'm not sure if I'll count it as restricted or not...technically it is, but I still can't get over eating something with 24g carbs...although it also has 19g fiber. Anyway, it was definitely hard as a brick when i first tried it, so I popped it in the microwave for 20 seconds and it's super soft and yummy. This could be a diet-changer for me.

Sorry your quest bar was hard. Fresh ones are softer & pliable.

I was thinking about picking up some of these quest bars at GNC - just to have something different to have on hand. I am going to use all other IP products and this will be the only alternative i will use.

Are the cinnamon roll and strawberry cheesecake considered restricted or super restricted or non restricted? I notice that they have 20 g of protein. How does that work?

Thanks

Repost of my previous post:

Here is the list I made again. I added the new flavors.

The Quest Coconut Cashew bars don't fit our IP profile for alts (or maybe you could call them Super-restricted and limit to once/week). They have too much fat. Take fat calories (60) multiply by 3 (no more than 1/3 calories from fat) and you can see that there are too many calories from fat in this bar. You'd want no more than 56 calories from fat to be less than 1/3
The other Quest Bars that don't work (based on fat content) or would be Super Restricted:
Vanilla Almond Crunch,
Mixed Berry Bliss,
Peanut Butter Supreme,
Peanut Butter & Jelly,
White Chocolate Raspberry,
Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough


All of the other Quest bars would be restricted. There are two that fall right on the edge between restricted & non (Choc Peanut butter & Strawberry Cheesecake). Fat cals are under 1/3 (but not way under) and they both have 8 g net carbs. I still personally call them restricted, altho some use them as nonrestricted. Make your decisions carefully and determine what works based on WIs.

most IP products have 12-18g protein so I use 20 as my upper limit for 1 pk

Thanks Lisa. Hope you are feeling better