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Old 08-24-2012, 02:32 PM   #1  
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Default Ideal Protein Diet + Intermittent Fasting

My coach told me that it would take 4-7 days to get into ketosis. I was wondering if you could IF and kick start the ketosis and get on the diet? Have any one of you used IF to kick start or boost ketosis while on the IP diet? Would love to know!
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My coach told me that it would take 4-7 days to get into ketosis. I was wondering if you could IF and kick start the ketosis and get on the diet? Have any one of you used IF to kick start or boost ketosis while on the IP diet? Would love to know!
I would just let the process happen as it is supposed to. The fasting would put you into starvation mode, and you would burn muscle not fat.

Don't try to game the system too much. It really works well when it is followed. Just stay 100% to the program and it will work much better for you.
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Cindy is perfectly correct. I wouldn't start to add to anything or change anything. IP works on its own. You will get there. You don't want your body to think its starving and maybe make the process that much longer.
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Cindy is perfectly correct. I wouldn't start to add to anything or change anything. IP works on its own. You will get there. You don't want your body to think its starving and maybe make the process that much longer.
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I believe the issue with IF is that you won't get the steady stream of protein that the plan requires. I think you would hinder your progress instead of jump starting it.

I am interested in IF also, and I might move to that approach at some point in my journey. We'll see how this goes first! Good luck!
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Thank you all for your reply!!! I'm excited about IP. Today is my day 2.
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Thank you all for your reply!!! I'm excited about IP. Today is my day 2.
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I was on IP for 8 months and have been in maintenance for 15 months. I have gone into ketosis many times...it takes between 2-3 days, rarely into the 4th day. The lowest carb packets and veggies will help. Good luck
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IF has some very good health benefits, and pretty popular in the primal/paleo world, but truthfully with IP I would just follow the plan as it's stated. Ketosis really is anytime between 3 to 7 days, and with IP it generally takes me about 6 to 7 days to get into Ketosis. With Atkins I can generally get into it by day 3 or 4. Get through the first week of IP and it really does get so much easier. Best of luck to you.
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Default IF Really is as Good as You Have Heard.

If you really want to see the huge benefits of Intermittent Fasting, take a look on YouTube for a BBC documentary called "Eat, Fast and Live Longer". And IF is not a diet per se, it just takes the standard 5 - 6 small meals a day scenario and makes your "eating window" a lot smaller. I fast 18 hours of the day, then eat my usual calories in just 6 hours, but in only 2 meals, and that includes over 200g of protein. And I am losing fat at a good, steady rate.

Some of the myths you will see are to do with starvation mode, muscle wastage etc and they are just that .. myths. In fact, studies have shown metabolic rate actually rises during a short fast and that you will only see issues if you fast for longer than 60 hours.

Benefits include:
• Greater insulin sensitivity, which allows your body to make better use of carbohydrates

• A wide variety of potential health benefits, ranging from cardiovascular health and life extension to neuroprotective mechanisms that may protect against brain diseases such as Alzheimers.

• Mental alertness, boost in metabolism and improved energy levels due to increased levels of norepinephrine.

• Higher levels of growth hormone during the fast, which shifts fuel metabolism to fat burning and spares muscle protein.

• Appetite suppression. Contrary to what people seem to believe, fasting will not make you ravenous. It has a hunger blunting effect, which is invaluable during fat loss.

• Practical. Gone are the days of having to carry around protein shakes or Tupperware boxes of food everywhere you go.
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If you really want to see the huge benefits of Intermittent Fasting, take a look on YouTube for a BBC documentary called "Eat, Fast and Live Longer". And IF is not a diet per se, it just takes the standard 5 - 6 small meals a day scenario and makes your "eating window" a lot smaller. I fast 18 hours of the day, then eat my usual calories in just 6 hours, but in only 2 meals, and that includes over 200g of protein. And I am losing fat at a good, steady rate.

Some of the myths you will see are to do with starvation mode, muscle wastage etc and they are just that .. myths. In fact, studies have shown metabolic rate actually rises during a short fast and that you will only see issues if you fast for longer than 60 hours.

Benefits include:
• Greater insulin sensitivity, which allows your body to make better use of carbohydrates

• A wide variety of potential health benefits, ranging from cardiovascular health and life extension to neuroprotective mechanisms that may protect against brain diseases such as Alzheimers.

• Mental alertness, boost in metabolism and improved energy levels due to increased levels of norepinephrine.

• Higher levels of growth hormone during the fast, which shifts fuel metabolism to fat burning and spares muscle protein.

• Appetite suppression. Contrary to what people seem to believe, fasting will not make you ravenous. It has a hunger blunting effect, which is invaluable during fat loss.

• Practical. Gone are the days of having to carry around protein shakes or Tupperware boxes of food everywhere you go.
Sounds interesting, off to watch the program. Thanks!
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If you really want to see the huge benefits of Intermittent Fasting, take a look on YouTube for a BBC documentary called "Eat, Fast and Live Longer". And IF is not a diet per se, it just takes the standard 5 - 6 small meals a day scenario and makes your "eating window" a lot smaller. I fast 18 hours of the day, then eat my usual calories in just 6 hours, but in only 2 meals, and that includes over 200g of protein. And I am losing fat at a good, steady rate.

Some of the myths you will see are to do with starvation mode, muscle wastage etc and they are just that .. myths. In fact, studies have shown metabolic rate actually rises during a short fast and that you will only see issues if you fast for longer than 60 hours.

Benefits include:
• Greater insulin sensitivity, which allows your body to make better use of carbohydrates

• A wide variety of potential health benefits, ranging from cardiovascular health and life extension to neuroprotective mechanisms that may protect against brain diseases such as Alzheimers.

• Mental alertness, boost in metabolism and improved energy levels due to increased levels of norepinephrine.

• Higher levels of growth hormone during the fast, which shifts fuel metabolism to fat burning and spares muscle protein.

• Appetite suppression. Contrary to what people seem to believe, fasting will not make you ravenous. It has a hunger blunting effect, which is invaluable during fat loss.

• Practical. Gone are the days of having to carry around protein shakes or Tupperware boxes of food everywhere you go.
I think two very different approaches are getting confused here.
actually the idea of the Intermittent fast is the way my body wants to eat naturally time wise. but I don't lose weight that way.

Ip is very restricted to begin with. I don't see how on earth these two approaches could be done at the same time. I do realize that often responses come from people who see a post on the front page of 3 fat chicks and don't realize they are responding to a thread about a particular plan.

Getting into ketosis and then staying there is not a problem if you follow the IP protocol sheets.
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Agreed. IF is probably not an ideal solution if you are sticking to a regimented eating plan and not every plan fits with IF, so it is best not to try and force a diet into a drastically reduced eating window.
Stick with IP and see how you do in ketosis. Adhering to a diet is best done without being distracted by other methods of fat loss.
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I just watched the BBC program on You Tube, very interesting. I also agree that IF and IP together are a bad idea, as IP is already so low in calories. However IF is something I can see doing once you have hit your goal weight or at least are not already on a calorie restricting diet like IP. It looks like IF is more about longevity and health, than a weight loss plan.
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