Good alternative for collagen ?
 

Anyone find a cheaper alternative for the raspberry jello and Blu/pom/cran drink with the collagen in it?

The IP chocolate shake label shows:
Calories: 100
Fat: 4g
Cholesterol: 0g
Sodium: 240mg
Potassium: 350mg
Total Carbs:4
Fiber:3
Sugar:0
Protein:15g
Calcium: 25%
Iron: 6%
no other nutrients on nutrition label I have.

The EAS AdvanEdge Carb Control (Ready to drink) Vanilla shake is: (11oz)
Calories: 100
Fat: 2.5
Cholesterol: 25g
Sodium: 340mg
Potassium: 360mg
Total Carbs:3
Fiber:1
Sugar:0
Protein:17g
AND 25 different vitamins and nutrients listed with average of 20% for each...
COST: $4.74 a 4 pack at Walmart.

I use the EAS ready to drink shakes, kept ice cold in the fridge and think they are very good. The cost is very affordable too which helps a lot...
Cheers
Jake

Need Help on my Daily Menu
 

I'm looking for a daily menu guide: from what I've read, can someone confirm if I'm doing this right.....

Breakfast: EAS Shake, 2 slices whole wheat dry toast & coffee
Lunch: EAS Shake, 2 cups Vegetables, unlimited lettuce & 200 grams of berries
Supper: 7 oz fish or 5 oz other meat, some kind of Dairy, 2 cups vegetables
Snack: Protein Bar

Just trying to make sure I'm understanding this right. thanks for your help

Are you wanting to do IP on their Alternative Plan? It's generally recommended for those with diabetes. On Phase 1 of IP's regular protocol you aren't allowed the toast at breakfast (no bread or similiar items).... or the berries at lunch (no fruit).... or the dairy at supper (no dairy).

Here's an outline I found re the Alternative Plan, which is discussed at this link:http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/idea...-1-plan-2.html


Alternative Plan - Phase 1 - To Be Followed Until 90% Of Your Wieght Goal Is Achieved
Breakfast
1 IP packet
plus one group choice ( will list groups below)
plus coffee/tea with 1 oz skim milk
sweetener allowed

lunch
1 IP packet
plus 1 group choice
plus
2 cups select veggies and unlimited lettuce

dinner

7 oz fish or 5 oz meat from select choice
plus 1 group choice
plus 2 cups select veggies

snack

1 IP packet

Compulsory

64 oz water

1-2 teaspoon olive or grape seed oil

regular IP supplements

IMPORTANT: only one choice from each GROUP is permitted per day. ALL THREE GROUPS MUST be consumed per day.

GROUP 1

2 slices toast ( whole grain, pumpernickel, rye, multigrain,sourdough, stone ground whole wheat, oat bran, sprouted grain)
150 grams whole wheat pasta
150 grams brown rice ( not instant)
1 sweet potato, or small boiled potato
60 grams oatmeal ( non instant)
150 gram - 200 grams couscous
50 grams unsweetened cereal (bran, oat, whole grain or barley)
150 grams cooked legumes (chick peas, lentils, green peas, kidney beans)
150 gram corn


Group 2

fresh fruit ( example: 1 grapefruit, 1 apple, 2 kiwis, 150 g pineapple, 1 banana,200 g strawberries, blueberries, blackberries or raspberries.
fruit is allowed, but optional, and must not be replaced with another food group.

group 3

1 sugar free yogurt
1 - 60 oz glass milk (2% M.F or less)
30 gram cheese (about 20% M.F)
120 g cottage cheese
60 g feta cheese


Meat, veggie, seasoning choices are the same as regular phase 1.

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If you go to this thread it's discussing the Phases of IP. Scroll down and you'll find a post that gives links to the Phase Protocol sheets, and also another post that gives the same Alternative Protocol details I just copied for you above.

http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/idea...et-phases.html

Thank you!!! I had all of that but didn't understand the difference. I appreciate your help.

Hey, I'm new and trying to find some alternatives...what IP items did you specifically find alternatives to? What are the alternatives if you don't mind me asking? I've been trying to do lots of research, but am still unclear what the right choices are. Thanks so much!!!:)

Hello,

I haven't been for a while on this forum, so I don't remember exactly if it was an open thread about home-made jello or if it was discussed in one of the threads, but I do believe there is an open thread concerning home-made jello.

Anyway, I want to share what worked with me after some trials and errors, I finally got it: I bought the non-flavoured gelatin called Knox (I find it more cost effective to buy the big box than the small one). So, all I do is sprinkle the gelatin powder on 1/4 cup of water, add 1/4 cup of boiling water and dissolve until fully dissolved, let it rest and meanwhile prepare two cups of your protein shake as usually, I found that it works best when I use my Ninja mixer, I assume you can also prepare with a ready-to-drink protein shake, but never tried it myself; add the two cups of your protein shake to the gelatin dissolved and let it cool then to the fridge it goes.

I am enjoying eating my shakes this way much better than drinking them the old-fashioned way since it turns out to be kind of like a pudding. You can get creative and add some flavours such as a little bit of vanilla or other extracts as long as they don't contain sugar or alcohol.

I hope you'll enjoy this! :)

I'm not sure where my post went, but does anyone have a place that sells an alternative to the apple cinnamon soy puffs?

Here are the alternatives I've used and loved. All from Nashua.
Calories/total Carbs/protein

Unrestricted
HealthSmart Hot Cholate, lots of flavors, my fav is cinnamon. 80/4/15
HealthSmart Fruit Drink, fav flavor are Pineapple & Lemon Razzy 70/1/15
Weight Loss Systems cocomint cream shake/pudding 100/7/15
ProtiThin Soup, chicken noodle, tastes like Lipton cup of soup 90/5/15

Restricted
Health Smart protein bar- Rocky Road 170/15/14
Health Smart protein bar- Peanut Butter 170/12/15
Health Smart protein cookie- oatmeal raisin 155/16/15

Super Restricted (twice a week like the strawberry wafers)
Health Smart protein bar- caramel brownie 180/18/14
Health Smart protein bar-double peanut butter 165/17/12
WeightLoss Systems chocomint bar 150/21/10

I am new to the site and the diet. I am on day 6 and have lost 5#. I am using Atikins products, not sure if they would be considered restricted foods? I am hurting today, my head hurts and I am very weak. Any suggestions?/?

Has anyone tried EAS Advantedge Dark Chocolate. Yummy and satisfys my craving for chocolate.

Diabeteze Bars
 

I posted this message on the alternative reviews thread also, but reposted here thinking someone else might know about these bars.

I found Diabeteze bars at Costco and was wondering if anyone uses them as an alternative. They're for diabetics and contain no sugar and fewer carbs than many mainstream bars. They come in chololate mint and chocolate peanut butter flavors. They taste really good, especially the chocolate mint and neither has that protein back flavor.

They seem comperable to IP bars, but I'm unclear on caclulating net carbs.

Calories: 180
Fat: 9
Carbs: 18
Fiber: 5
Sugar: 4
Sugar alcohol: 7
Protein: 10

They are kind of low in protein and high in carbs. Most IP products start at 15g of protein +

Alt in Canada
 

I am in Canada and looking at all the alternatives, I would love some Protithin or some Lindora but I don't think shipping would be worth it. Any Suggestions would be adored!

I bought the Weight Loss Systems 15 g protein Sampler Pack of protein bars from Nashua Nutrition (www.nashuanutrition.com). I am surprised, I really liked each and every 1 of them.