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patns 03-29-2012 07:41 PM

In answer to becca's question personally I went to alternatives partly because of accountability. Once I got the basics under control I realized that if I was going to be successful and more importantly keep the weight off long term I needed to be totally in control of my plan. I had to monotor very carefully what was happening with my body and be personally accountable for what happens with it. As I learned to take that control I know I am better prepared to keep my weight under control for the rest of my life.

The biggest thing I had to learn was to plan ahead for each day and prepare what I needed. Then whatever curve came my way in other plans my food plan was not inpacted. Those decisions had been made the day before so it didn't matter what celebration with food was contstantly springing up around me. I didn't even have to think about what decision I would have to make about it. That decision had already been made when I prepared what I was to eat for the day.
Pat

jenn04 03-29-2012 08:45 PM

Ordered some alternative products will update u guys on the quality when i get them......keep on chattin bc it sure is helpful :)

Chloe222 03-29-2012 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patns (Post 4272994)
I am recopying this question becca1978 asked on another thread.


I started IP last June and managed to lose about 30 lbs by mid August. I thought I could control my eating by using alternatives and do it on my own. But then majorly fell off the wagon and gained all of it back.

My weeks just run together and I had no accountability. I would be 100% for a couple days and then cheat a couple days. I would go down, up, down, up, etc, but never getting anywhere.

I have been 100% now for 3 weeks and have lost 11 lbs. But we found out that insurance isn't covering our daughters speech. I feel I should quit again and do alternatives because they are cheaper and to save $$$.

But I am scared of the lack of accountability. If i lose 3 lbs/week, I could impossible be at my goal weight in 8 weeks = another $1k when you think about food and vitamins.

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What aspect of having a coach makes you feel accountable? Is it the face to face aspect? The formality of someone else weighing you and recording it? Is it paying the IP prices and not wanting to waste the money?

Something else?

Let us know and maybe we can help you sort this out.

becca1978 03-29-2012 09:49 PM

I think it is the face to face meetings. And the weighing and measuring.

I would go a couple good days in a row, cheat a couple days, good a couple days, cheat, etc. Before I knew it, it had been a couple months and I was at the same spot.

I lot of my problem is trying to figure out how to deal with emotional eating also.

Chloe222 03-30-2012 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by becca1978 (Post 4273172)
I think it is the face to face meetings. And the weighing and measuring.

I would go a couple good days in a row, cheat a couple days, good a couple days, cheat, etc. Before I knew it, it had been a couple months and I was at the same spot.

I lot of my problem is trying to figure out how to deal with emotional eating also.

It sounds like you would do well if you had a buddy locally doing this also. Have any friends willing to lose weight via IP? Perhaps you could develop your own IP club and hold each accountable and do the weigh ins together as well as place alternative orders together (save on S&H).

Re the emotional issues, I think most of us on this site have emotional issues with food, hence the need for IP. That's where this site comes in - we help each other be strong and focused.

Any one of us could say we're having a bad day and go off program but we're fighting that, sometimes moment by moment, to stay on program. Some days are incredibly tough.

However, ultimately, you need to want to lose weight and become healthier for this to work, so I hope this helps.

patns 03-30-2012 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by becca1978 (Post 4273172)
I think it is the face to face meetings. And the weighing and measuring.

I would go a couple good days in a row, cheat a couple days, good a couple days, cheat, etc. Before I knew it, it had been a couple months and I was at the same spot.

I lot of my problem is trying to figure out how to deal with emotional eating also.

Probably the set day to meet with the coach was giving you external structure and breaking the time into manageable chunks for you. It was a routine already set up for you. it is hard to keep your eye on the prize while going about our daily lives. Day to day progress seems slow put it all adds up in the end.

If you really can't afford to go to a clinic you will likely have to establish some other form of weekly ritual to mark the day that you weigh in.

One thing that I found helped me to do this was to join sign up for some sort of challenge such as the easter one on here or a Biggest Loser type one that many workplaces or communities have.

I hope you figure out what works for you. I assume the date in your user name is your birth date. I will tell you I so wish I had conquered the weight issue when I was younger. It is so hard after menopause and it would have been so much fun to wear things I really liked in my 30s rather than things I could get on no matter what they looked like.
Good luck with this live changing journey.

Pat

wuv2bloved 03-30-2012 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by becca1978 (Post 4273172)
I think it is the face to face meetings. And the weighing and measuring.

I would go a couple good days in a row, cheat a couple days, good a couple days, cheat, etc. Before I knew it, it had been a couple months and I was at the same spot.

I lot of my problem is trying to figure out how to deal with emotional eating also.

Becca, if it is a face to face meeting you need, I will be willing to skype with you if that is what you need. If you can't find someone in your area or a friend that is willing to do that for you. I can be your face to face meeting and you could weigh and measure yourself, we could log it just as you would if you were at a clinic. There is ALWAYS a way to get support with the internet now, there are SOOO many options. Like I think Chole said YOU HAVE TO WANT IT for it to work. If your mind is made up and you want to get this weight off YOU CAN DO IT!...believe in yourself.

I posted this on my thread in response to someone but wanted to share it with you as well.....

ZZ, you picked a PERFECT spot to post!!....I was were you were 11 months ago. As of last Wednesday and my 11month anniversary on IP I have loss a total of 140lbs and over 90 inches. Don't think of this as a diet but a lifestyle change. I will tell you this though, you MUST change your way of thinking. Don't think, I am starving on this diet because you are not. Your body is getting the food it needs to survive. You have to think of your food now as fuel for your body, not for comfort. I started off 100lbs HEAVIER than YOU....at 388lbs and look how far I have come. It takes determination, dedication and NO EXCUSES, with that comes NO CHEATING which means, no licks, nibbles, taste, sips or JUST ONE BITES!.....there are things you will be able to add to make this journey a little easier. You can add MIO(water flavoring) to your water, you can have herbal or decaffeinated tea that counts towards your water. I would suggest drinking as much water as you can, the more water you drink the more fat you lose. Yes you will go to the restroom A LOT ...BUT I look at it like this, every time I go to the restroom I am losing fat and I want it to be GONE forever!. I drink 4-5 liters of water a day. Chew gum when you THINK you are hungry because you are NOT really hungry, distract yourself with something you like to do, read a book, crossword puzzles, sew, quilt or start a new hobby, posting and reading on here!

This is a very strict program BUT worth EVERY thing you go through, your first week you will think you can't do this. I AM HERE TO TELL YOU YES YOU CAN!! you will get a killer headache, put 1/4 tsp of sea salt in the palm of your hand, lick it then drink some water and within 15 mins is should be gone.. Your BP is low and your electrolytes are low, your body is detoxing from the carbs and sugar....I PROMISE YOU, it does get better.

I will be here for you through your journey along with many others. You will gain friends on this site who are all over the world. We all have a bond that no others have, we are all on the same journey going through the same things. Only we have the understanding what we are going through, with the strength each of us have we all help each other get through the hurdles and help each other to be successful. Welcome to the IP family!

becca1978 03-30-2012 12:48 PM

Thanks everyone for the advice! I can't remember how to quote again.

My husband volunteered to make me accountable, so we may have to try that for a while.

I am in my 30's. I really do want to get this under control. I have been on diets since I was in my teens. Up, down, up, down. I am hoping this time it will help that i am focusing on the emotional reasons why I eat too. On a thread somewhere on here, someone talked about the Shrink Yourself book by Roger Gould. I have a feeling that I will have to read it a couple times to catch everything, but I think it will help. Right now, it is making me think about every time I eat.

I had a really rough day on Wednesday. I stopped at Target for some things and could smell good buttery popcorn. I was tempted, but then I stopped and was reminding myself that it wasn't on the diet and it was just my emotions that were talking to me about eating it.

Survalia 03-30-2012 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by wuv2bloved (Post 4273884)
Becca, if it is a face to face meeting you need, I will be willing to skype with you if that is what you need. If you can't find someone in your area or a friend that is willing to do that for you. I can be your face to face meeting and you could weigh and measure yourself, we could log it just as you would if you were at a clinic. There is ALWAYS a way to get support with the internet now, there are SOOO many options. Like I think Chole said YOU HAVE TO WANT IT for it to work. If your mind is made up and you want to get this weight off YOU CAN DO IT!...believe in yourself.

Is this not the sweetest thing ever?? That is why she is B'loved!!:hug:


And you, too, Patns -- such awesome support. :hug:

becca1978 03-30-2012 01:10 PM

Here is one more question for now. Does Nashua ever have coupon codes?

Survalia - It is the sweetest thing ever! I may have to take her up on it!

mamacitaof2 03-30-2012 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by becca1978 (Post 4273957)
Here is one more question for now. Does Nashua ever have coupon codes?

Survalia - It is the sweetest thing ever! I may have to take her up on it!

Nashua does have coupon codes. I know i've gotten 10% off on protiet or protithin (don't remember which) and I also have gotten a free hot chocolate sample with a coupon code on the same order. I found them just by googling nashua coupons.

becca1978 03-30-2012 02:38 PM

Ok. I ordered a bunch of the Chocolate RTD's from New Lifestyles and some Caramel Nut Bars and the Chocolate Soy Puffs from Nashua. I should be set for 6-8 weeks.

lindsayk86 03-30-2012 05:04 PM

I have been thinking heavily about switching to the alternatives plan. I am going to check out costco and walmart for products that people have listed on here that they use. I'm going to tally everything up and decide. The only question that I have is for people in Canada, Where do you get the Cal-Mag, Multi-Vitamin and Potassium Pills from? What do you use?

Thanks in advance

wendyquilts 03-30-2012 05:24 PM

Wow. I placed an order with Nashua at 10:19 a.m. I received an e-mail notification that it had been picked up at 2:39 p.m. That's service!

patns 03-30-2012 05:57 PM

[QUOTE=lindsayk86;4274229]I have been thinking heavily about switching to the alternatives plan. I am going to check out costco and walmart for products that people have listed on here that they use. I'm going to tally everything up and decide. The only question that I have is for people in Canada, Where do you get the Cal-Mag, Multi-Vitamin and Potassium Pills from? What do you use?


When I was going to a coach I went to my weigh in after I had finished my bottle of the multi-vitamin and she didn't have any that day. She told me to pick up vitamins at Walmart because they were the same thing. I thought what????

I just get the equivalents at Costco or Walmart. I take the calcium and magnesium separately because I take more of the magnesium while on the plan because calcium iWhen I was going to a coach I went to my weigh in after I had finished my bottle of the multi-vitamin and she didn't have any that day. She told me to pick up vitamins at Walmart because they were the same thing. I thought what????

I just get the equivalents at Costco or Walmart. I take the calcium and magnesium separately because I take more of the magnesium while on the plan because calcium increases constipation.
The potassium one is the hard on to replace. If you have a Dr B clinic near by that might be a good place to check. ncreases constipation.
The potassium one is the hard on to replace. If you have a Dr B clinic near by that might be a good place to check.

evepet 03-30-2012 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by lindsayk86 (Post 4274229)
I have been thinking heavily about switching to the alternatives plan. I am going to check out costco and walmart for products that people have listed on here that they use. I'm going to tally everything up and decide. The only question that I have is for people in Canada, Where do you get the Cal-Mag, Multi-Vitamin and Potassium Pills from? What do you use?

Thanks in advance

I did notice that Dr. Bernstein's sells supplements online which I think could be a good substitute. Have a look here:
http://store.drbdiet.com/category-s/22.htm
Or of course you could drop by a local Dr. B's if you have one.

patns 03-30-2012 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evepet (Post 4274394)
I did notice that Dr. Bernstein's sells supplements online which I think could be a good substitute. Have a look here:
http://store.drbdiet.com/category-s/22.htm
Or of course you could drop by a local Dr. B's if you have one.

I went by a clinic the other day and picked up some products but didn't need any supplements, I thought about them later when I got home and checked to see if you can get them online.

They ship from Ontario and the shipping costs are outragous. I tried to put in just two boxes of cocoa just to see how expensive it was. The lowest shipping was $54 for just the two small boxes.

But if you can go by a clinic everything is much cheaper than IP and they sell to everyone.Lots of their products are identical to IP.

Pat

patns 03-31-2012 10:14 AM

I made the cake in a mug with the Dr B's cocoa and it worked!
Only problem was that one made me want more. But I guess that is just an old cake mindset.

Mom thanks for the tip on the coupons. I never though to search for them.

Pat

dcapulet 03-31-2012 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mamacitaof2 (Post 4270541)
I have tried the HealthSmart bars. There's a peanut butter one that tastes like reese's PB cup. So YUMMY!!

I just ordered these because I LOVE PB cups!! I'm so excited to get them. I ordered from Nashua, along with a huge jug of the Proti-Diet oatmeal that I like - thanks for the suggestions everyone!

evepet 03-31-2012 03:15 PM

Re Question re The Low Carb Grocery - is bulk available?
 
I believe it was Chloe222 that asked me that question.

I've just had another thorough look around the website, and to the best of my knowledge bulk isn't available.

I just ordered some more WF products. The only other place I can know of where I can buy it is the clinic I signed up at, and they charge $7.38/product, compared to $4.59 here.

This online low carb grocery service acknowledges the order by sending an email within an hour of placing it, then send another one when the order has been 'picked'... and another when it's actually been put into shipment. My order from last Wednesday was delivered on Friday am. Of course, the store is located just east of Markham, Ontario, and I live in a city which is in central Ontario.

Here's the link again, in case anyone wants to look around their website.
http://www.thelowcarbgrocery.com/cat...sort=2a&page=2

Chloe222 03-31-2012 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evepet (Post 4275187)
I believe it was Chloe222 that asked me that question.

I've just had another thorough look around the website, and to the best of my knowledge bulk isn't available.

I just ordered some more WF products. The only other place I can know of where I can buy it is the clinic I signed up at, and they charge $7.38/product, compared to $4.59 here.

This online low carb grocery service acknowledges the order by sending an email within an hour of placing it, then send another one when the order has been 'picked'... and another when it's actually been put into shipment. My order from last Wednesday was delivered on Friday am. Of course, the store is located just east of Markham, Ontario, and I live in a city which is in central Ontario.

Here's the link again, in case anyone wants to look around their website.
http://www.thelowcarbgrocery.com/cat...sort=2a&page=2

Netrition charges $3.79 for many Waldon Farms products in general plus has a flat $4.95 S&H in the US. Might want to check if they ship to Canada.

evepet 03-31-2012 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Chloe222 (Post 4275261)
Netrition charges $3.79 for many Waldon Farms products in general plus has a flat $4.95 S&H in the US. Might want to check if they ship to Canada.

Thanks for the suggestion. I knew I'd looked at netrition.com earlier this week and discarded it.... I just went back in, plugged in about 8 WF products and tested the shipping cost situation to my area in Ontario, Canada. They were going to charge me more for shipping (even at the least expensive option which could take at least 2 weeks to get here) than the cost of the products. Guess that's why I discarded netrition as a possible source earlier this week.

wendyquilts 03-31-2012 09:17 PM

Just wanted to post, for those who use the EAS Carb AdvantEDGE RTD drinks, Target has them on sale for $4.26 per 4 pack, and they have the Pure Protein bars for $5.39.

MaMaZu 03-31-2012 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wendyquilts (Post 4275543)
Just wanted to post, for those who use the EAS Carb AdvantEDGE RTD drinks, Target has them on sale for $4.26 per 4 pack, and they have the Pure Protein bars for $5.39.

Just picked up 5 boxes of the bars. BTW, I refrigerated the Pure Protein S'mores Bars and OMG, they tasted like a frozen Milky Way, sooooo good!

wendyquilts 03-31-2012 09:25 PM

Ooh, I'll have to try that! I picked up a box of those because I hadn't seen them at Walmart (or if I did, I decided against them, I don't remember). I got 2 boxes of the strawberry drink, 2 boxes of the French Vanilla and a box each of the S'mores and the chocolate chip cookie one. I have a whole case of the chocolate fudge I got at Sam's Club last week, so I'm pretty well set for the next several weeks!

I will keep buying the white chocolate cinnamon bars from IP, though. Holy cow, are those things good!

Chloe222 04-01-2012 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evepet (Post 4275520)
Thanks for the suggestion. I knew I'd looked at netrition.com earlier this week and discarded it.... I just went back in, plugged in about 8 WF products and tested the shipping cost situation to my area in Ontario, Canada. They were going to charge me more for shipping (even at the least expensive option which could take at least 2 weeks to get here) than the cost of the products. Guess that's why I discarded netrition as a possible source earlier this week.

I had no idea that it costs so much to ship to Canada. Do you know why?

Chloe222 04-01-2012 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaMaZu (Post 4275548)
Just picked up 5 boxes of the bars. BTW, I refrigerated the Pure Protein S'mores Bars and OMG, they tasted like a frozen Milky Way, sooooo good!

How do you stop at just 1? i would have a hard time...

MaMaZu 04-01-2012 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Chloe222 (Post 4276098)
How do you stop at just 1? i would have a hard time...

I have it with my afternoon cup of coffee, would definitely like more but discipline myself to savor every single bite, and I take very small bites as that bar is the food highlight of my day!

Diana B 04-01-2012 04:57 PM

Alternatives
 
Hi everyone, I am currently doing IP through my Chiropractors office and using all IP products, and will continue to do so, however, my daughter needs to lose weight and can't afford the IP, and I can't afford both of us.....so I am trying to find an a place to get alternatives for her. We are going to follow it the IP way, and she will be weighing in and being accountable to me. She is really excited about doing this so now I'm trying to find out the best place to go.......thanks so much!:) And a NSV, when my daughter saw me yesterday after not seeing me for two weeks, she was amazed how much weight I have lost (26 lbs. in 5 weeks) and actually called me skinny, and I'm not close to where I need to get. So it has really made her want to start this journey!

serendipityberry 04-01-2012 06:18 PM

Anyone else like Lindora products? They have 20% off through today :)

patns 04-01-2012 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diana B (Post 4276430)
Hi everyone, I am currently doing IP through my Chiropractors office and using all IP products, and will continue to do so, however, my daughter needs to lose weight and can't afford the IP, and I can't afford both of us.....so I am trying to find an a place to get alternatives for her. We are going to follow it the IP way, and she will be weighing in and being accountable to me. She is really excited about doing this so now I'm trying to find out the best place to go.......thanks so much!:) And a NSV, when my daughter saw me yesterday after not seeing me for two weeks, she was amazed how much weight I have lost (26 lbs. in 5 weeks) and actually called me skinny, and I'm not close to where I need to get. So it has really made her want to start this journey!

There are a number of good sites to order from in the US. Most people seem to use Nashua Nutrition I think.

mtnsun4 04-01-2012 08:43 PM

I normally order from Nashua nutrition for Proti-Diet and Proti-Thin but wanted to find out if anyone orders from Lindora and your thoughts? Comperable to IP?

jenn04 04-01-2012 08:58 PM

Pure protein bars are on sale at Winn Dixie this week for $1.00 a piece

patns 04-01-2012 09:01 PM

Are there different sizes of Pure Protein bars? So many people seem to use them but the ones I see in the stores seem quite high in carbs.
But they are high in protein too.

jenn04 04-01-2012 10:20 PM

I have read alot of post on here about Pure Protein bars and I have googled them a bit I was wondering the same thing. Alot of people have used them and still lost weight soooo ill give it a try. Someone posted they froze a smores one and it tasted like an ice cream. I bought the smaller one

Diana B 04-01-2012 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patns (Post 4276571)
There are a number of good sites to order from in the US. Most people seem to use Nashua Nutrition I think.

Thanks, I thought I have seen Nashua mentioned alot. I have gone to their website and saw some good items. Lisa also mentioned the EAS carb control products which can be purchased at Sams Club, Walgreens and Walmart I think. Thanks for your feedback.

swimcoachmomma 04-01-2012 10:54 PM

Alternatives saved my butt today
 
I am usually the queen of organized. Well, I have been on phase three for surgery and off work, so I have let some things slide. We were out longer than normal this am and I started to feel yucky while walking thru walmart, and that was before we checked out!!! Lol. Anyway, I dug into my purse for my emergency stash of bars and they were all gone. I remembered what I read here about pure protein bars being ok and zipped over to the supplement aisle, picked up a box, ripped one open and ate half. Drank some water and was good to go. Lesson learned. I am going to be adding in more alternatives but am working thru my IP stash (I tend to be a bit of a stocker upper type person as well).

wuv2bloved 04-02-2012 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patns (Post 4276665)
Are there different sizes of Pure Protein bars? So many people seem to use them but the ones I see in the stores seem quite high in carbs.
But they are high in protein too.

Yes, there are 2 different sizes....a small one and a bigger one....you want to chose the smaller one

patns 04-02-2012 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wuv2bloved (Post 4276851)
Yes, there are 2 different sizes....a small one and a bigger one....you want to chose the smaller one

The ones I am seeing around here must be the large ones. I'll have to check around other places.

wuv2bloved 04-02-2012 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patns (Post 4276858)
The ones I am seeing around here must be the large ones. I'll have to check around other places.

I'l call my mom tomorrow and find out what size it is...I think I remember her saying it was like 1.7oz or something like that, the other one is like 2-3oz but i am not 100% sure...I'll call her tomorrow and then let you know


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