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WingnutandMe 03-03-2012 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chloe222 (Post 4239345)
Ducksby,

Your body is probably just regulating itself to the new weight. I'm guessing in the next week you'll be down your usual amount if not more. This is really an adventure and if you've been 100% OP, your body will give up the weight when its ready and its healthy to do it, so trust your body. The human body is miraculous in its self regulating capability!

(I know its frustrating though)

Ducksmy had the same problem I did a couple weeks ago. My coach is VERY strict and not really in favor of restricteds. To please her (and hopefully to help) I stayed off them. I weighed in early the next week (after only 4 days) and had a 6 lb loss and was thrilled. I figured it was like what you've described above.

So, I only added three restricteds back (had previously been having one a day), stayed 100% OP, went back to my normal WI day (making it 10 days to yesterday's WI) and there I was right back to a low loss (though thank goodness it's a loss).

Now my strict coach, who disagrees with this site and paying attention to the info and eating anything but strict protocol, like making the recipes, especially eating the egg whites, has blown all the wind out my sails. I never slept well last night, all night I had dreams about eating the things she doesn't agree with. Then this morning, I was so upset and distracted, I grabbed the wrong eye drop bottle and promptly put my contact cleaner in my eye. I know this is all in my head, but I'm easily intimidated and this has blown me away mentally.

I cannot change coaches as IP is very new in our area and there's no other choices. Besides, it's my chiropractor that is offering it and I don't want to quit him as I have lots of problems he takes care of in that area.

I'm now afraid to put anything in my mouth. Besides only following strict protocol, she feels everyone should maintain a minimum 3 lb average loss. Two weeks below 3 makes it hard. I have so far to go, but I am so discouraged. If I am one of the unlucky few that can only lose well on strict protocal, it will be hard. I've always loved to cook and have had a great time with all of the recipes. It breaks the monotony and makes it not like a diet.

Sorry for the venting and pity party. Sometimes, you need to talk it out.
Thanks, all. You're such good friends.

shiipa 03-03-2012 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by WingnutandMe (Post 4239420)
Ducksmy had the same problem I did a couple weeks ago. My coach is VERY strict and not really in favor of restricteds. To please her (and hopefully to help) I stayed off them. I weighed in early the next week (after only 4 days) and had a 6 lb loss and was thrilled. I figured it was like what you've described above.

So, I only added three restricteds back (had previously been having one a day), stayed 100% OP, went back to my normal WI day (making it 10 days to yesterday's WI) and there I was right back to a low loss (though thank goodness it's a loss).

Now my strict coach, who disagrees with this site and paying attention to the info and eating anything but strict protocol, like making the recipes, especially eating the egg whites, has blown all the wind out my sails. I never slept well last night, all night I had dreams about eating the things she doesn't agree with. Then this morning, I was so upset and distracted, I grabbed the wrong eye drop bottle and promptly put my contact cleaner in my eye. I know this is all in my head, but I'm easily intimidated and this has blown me away mentally.

I cannot change coaches as IP is very new in our area and there's no other choices. Besides, it's my chiropractor that is offering it and I don't want to quit him as I have lots of problems he takes care of in that area.

I'm now afraid to put anything in my mouth. Besides only following strict protocol, she feels everyone should maintain a minimum 3 lb average loss. Two weeks below 3 makes it hard. I have so far to go, but I am so discouraged. If I am one of the unlucky few that can only lose well on strict protocal, it will be hard. I've always loved to cook and have had a great time with all of the recipes. It breaks the monotony and makes it not like a diet.

Sorry for the venting and pity party. Sometimes, you need to talk it out.
Thanks, all. You're such good friends.

This is very familiar to me. It's something like this that causes me to give up and go back to my old ways. We tend to do that to ourselves. Sabotage!!!!! Please don't follow in my footsteps :hug:
If cooking is such a passion for you and you can still lose with the modifications you made with the recipes from this site, I would simply not tell her anymore.

bethanym 03-03-2012 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Chloe222 (Post 4239370)
NSV!!
Today I fit in size 12 jeans! of course, have a largish sweatshirt on since the fit isn't all that attractive, but the jeans are zipped up and not uncomfortable!

The scale isn't really moving but wearing these jeans is great!


Congrats!!! I look forward to that day myself....I wear yoga pants every day (I work at home), and while they are comfortable they sure do make it easy to not notice that you are gaining, sigh. I am sooo looking forward to wearing jeans again when I get to a weight where I think I look ok in them.

socalgirl83 03-03-2012 04:12 PM

Weigh in today
 
I just completed week 8 on the program and after not weighing in last week I lost 5.6lbs in the last 2 weeks. I'm so excited because this was after having to travel for work, being veryyyyy sick, the BIG C and TOM any second now (sorry TMI). That brings my total weight loss to 20.2lbs in about 2 months. I am more motivated than ever to continue going. Even my skinny minny sister who's trying to lose baby weight constantly asks ME for weight loss advice. I know it's wrong but after always being the "big" sister it feels good to see her struggle a little...but only because she always use to say that losing weight is easy. It's about 75 degrees out today so I think I will go take a walk on the beach. Happy weekend and here's to staying OP :carrot:

bethanym 03-03-2012 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by WingnutandMe (Post 4239420)
I cannot change coaches as IP is very new in our area and there's no other choices. Besides, it's my chiropractor that is offering it and I don't want to quit him as I have lots of problems he takes care of in that area.

You sound like you are having to deal with a lot....maybe not tell him anymore about the site or recipes?

Also, you could use Ideal To Go...I order all my stuff from them online and don't meet with a coach. Much less stressful, though it may lessen the accountability for some people.

Hugs to you...hopefully it gets better!

socalgirl83 03-03-2012 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tenniels (Post 4239362)
Wahoo!!!! Oh Wuv, I'm so proud of you and all the good things life is bringing your way. You're making up for lost time and really are GOING places! :) Can't wait to see a picture of the new 'do!

Tenniels, I just noticed that you and I are around the same age, height and have the same goal. I started at a higher weight 191.4 and I am at 171.2 so you have much better progress than I have had, but I'd love to hear what the 140s and 130s are like once you get there. I haven't been that weight since I was a young teenager. Wishing you health and success :bravo:

pegv 03-03-2012 04:43 PM

[QUOTE=WingnutandMe;4239420]Ducksmy had the same problem I did a couple weeks ago. My coach is VERY strict and not really in favor of restricteds. To please her (and hopefully to help) I stayed off them. I weighed in early the next week (after only 4 days) and had a 6 lb loss and was thrilled. I figured it was like what you've described above.

So, I only added three restricteds back (had previously been having one a day), stayed 100% OP, went back to my normal WI day (making it 10 days to yesterday's WI) and there I was right back to a low loss (though thank goodness it's a loss).

Now my strict coach, who disagrees with this site and paying attention to the info and eating anything but strict protocol, like making the recipes, especially eating the egg whites, has blown all the wind out my sails. I never slept well last night, all night I had dreams about eating the things she doesn't agree with. Then this morning, I was so upset and distracted, I grabbed the wrong eye drop bottle and promptly put my contact cleaner in my eye. I know this is all in my head, but I'm easily intimidated and this has blown me away mentally.

I thought most all of the Ideal Protein clinics have recipes posted on their FB page. My clinic has a newsletter with new recipes made with the IP products.

tenniels 03-03-2012 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WingnutandMe (Post 4239420)
Ducksmy had the same problem I did a couple weeks ago. My coach is VERY strict and not really in favor of restricteds. To please her (and hopefully to help) I stayed off them. I weighed in early the next week (after only 4 days) and had a 6 lb loss and was thrilled. I figured it was like what you've described above.

So, I only added three restricteds back (had previously been having one a day), stayed 100% OP, went back to my normal WI day (making it 10 days to yesterday's WI) and there I was right back to a low loss (though thank goodness it's a loss).

Now my strict coach, who disagrees with this site and paying attention to the info and eating anything but strict protocol, like making the recipes, especially eating the egg whites, has blown all the wind out my sails. I never slept well last night, all night I had dreams about eating the things she doesn't agree with. Then this morning, I was so upset and distracted, I grabbed the wrong eye drop bottle and promptly put my contact cleaner in my eye. I know this is all in my head, but I'm easily intimidated and this has blown me away mentally.

I cannot change coaches as IP is very new in our area and there's no other choices. Besides, it's my chiropractor that is offering it and I don't want to quit him as I have lots of problems he takes care of in that area.

I'm now afraid to put anything in my mouth. Besides only following strict protocol, she feels everyone should maintain a minimum 3 lb average loss. Two weeks below 3 makes it hard. I have so far to go, but I am so discouraged. If I am one of the unlucky few that can only lose well on strict protocal, it will be hard. I've always loved to cook and have had a great time with all of the recipes. It breaks the monotony and makes it not like a diet.

Sorry for the venting and pity party. Sometimes, you need to talk it out.
Thanks, all. You're such good friends.

I would not tell my coach or do like bethanym said and do IdealtoGo. There is no way I'd be able to do this without making recipes or using a restricted. I look forward to my restricted!!! Look at Wuv, she uses one everyday and look at how far she's come!!! A loss is a loss. We're not all going to lose above 3lbs each and every week. I wish! I'd be so much closer to goal! Weight loss is a journey and it isn't a race (although I know we all want to get to the destination or "goal" as fast as possible of course). The main thing with this is being able to stick with it, and I think the cooking/recipes/website/restricted's all help a person to do just that. If you go super strict to the point of not enjoying this or having support from us, you're more likely to stray! Who wants that?!? Sorry, this got me all worked up because I think you're doing great, and should stick with what will get you through to the end in sound mind and body. I couldn't do this without the restricted treats or the support of this forum. We are here for you :hug:

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Originally Posted by bethanym (Post 4239437)
Congrats!!! I look forward to that day myself....I wear yoga pants every day (I work at home), and while they are comfortable they sure do make it easy to not notice that you are gaining, sigh. I am sooo looking forward to wearing jeans again when I get to a weight where I think I look ok in them.

Haha I have been a yoga pants offender for some time now. Jeans have been too uncomfortable, so I just don't wear them. I know when I'm at goal I will ensure I'm trying on non-stretchy pants regularily so I can gauge my body changes on that. Have you seen the Tide commercial where the girl is talking about wearing yoga pants all the time? And then she says "I wear yoga pants because I'm too lazy for real pants" or something like that. Oh god it makes me laugh. YouTube it! :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by socalgirl83 (Post 4239448)
Tenniels, I just noticed that you and I are around the same age, height and have the same goal. I started at a higher weight 191.4 and I am at 171.2 so you have much better progress than I have had, but I'd love to hear what the 140s and 130s are like once you get there. I haven't been that weight since I was a young teenager. Wishing you health and success :bravo:

Oh wow, thanks :o We're doing about the same though, we've lost about the same amount of weight! Sounds like you're doing great :) I will gladly tell you about the 140's and 130's when I get there! Oh boy I cannot wait! I haven't seen those numbers since my early twenties and I'll be 29 in two weeks exactly! Feel free to message me anytime if you need some support or encouragement, its nice having someone with a similar age/weight/goal to relate to :) Thanks for the post, you really did make my day! Keep up the good work girly!

le506 03-03-2012 04:50 PM

calling all know-it-alls (in the most flattering way possible :D )
I'm out of salt from my beginner pack and was wondering what exactly I'm searching for in its replacement...

sea salt that is iodized?

tenniels 03-03-2012 04:53 PM

So you guys, I just had to share a couple things because I am so flippin' excited!!! Okay number one, my clinic finally got Lemon Puffs and Potato Puree in, so of course I bought them. Had the potato for lunch with spinach salad and oh boy was I ever happy! Potatoes on IP!!! Wahoo! I opened the Lemon Puffs and tasted a couple, omg, sooo good! I put the rest in a baggie for snack at a later time. So excited for new options!

The second thing I'm excited about is I bought some WF Pancake Syrup to try with my new found love of lemon pudding pancakes. I tried a spoon of that too. SOOOOOO good. I have had no success with other WF products, but this is just like pancake syrup! I'm going to use this way after IP! How cool! I think if I'm feeling really desperate for something sweet, I could even have a taste of that and it would quell my cravings. Awesome.

And the third thing is I was weighed this morning and down 4.5lbs! I'm so happy because last week was a craptacular week and I lost 0.3lbs. So I figure this plus that averaged over two weeks is pretty good for me (considering I'm exercising lots too). I was starting to feel like I was failing at IP and today I just feel invigorated! I also had a really great B.M, so that helps too. That's extra info I know, but I'm sure you can all relate. I get very backed up on IP, so it was much needed. I know I can get annoying on here with all my emotional ups and downs on this program, but for right now in this moment TODAY FEELS GREAT!!!! I'm sure I'll be down or frustrated again, because this is like a rollercoaster for me, but like I said in this moment I feel great :) I just want to thank you all for listening and supporting me in this journey :) I will shut up now because this is getting awfully long haha, sorry.

purple sky 03-03-2012 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by WingnutandMe (Post 4239420)
Ducksmy had the same problem I did a couple weeks ago. My coach is VERY strict and not really in favor of restricteds. To please her (and hopefully to help) I stayed off them. I weighed in early the next week (after only 4 days) and had a 6 lb loss and was thrilled. I figured it was like what you've described above.

So, I only added three restricteds back (had previously been having one a day), stayed 100% OP, went back to my normal WI day (making it 10 days to yesterday's WI) and there I was right back to a low loss (though thank goodness it's a loss).

Now my strict coach, who disagrees with this site and paying attention to the info and eating anything but strict protocol, like making the recipes, especially eating the egg whites, has blown all the wind out my sails. I never slept well last night, all night I had dreams about eating the things she doesn't agree with. Then this morning, I was so upset and distracted, I grabbed the wrong eye drop bottle and promptly put my contact cleaner in my eye. I know this is all in my head, but I'm easily intimidated and this has blown me away mentally.

I cannot change coaches as IP is very new in our area and there's no other choices. Besides, it's my chiropractor that is offering it and I don't want to quit him as I have lots of problems he takes care of in that area.

I'm now afraid to put anything in my mouth. Besides only following strict protocol, she feels everyone should maintain a minimum 3 lb average loss. Two weeks below 3 makes it hard. I have so far to go, but I am so discouraged. If I am one of the unlucky few that can only lose well on strict protocal, it will be hard. I've always loved to cook and have had a great time with all of the recipes. It breaks the monotony and makes it not like a diet.

Sorry for the venting and pity party. Sometimes, you need to talk it out.
Thanks, all. You're such good friends.

Do you trust her? Do you feel good when you go to coaching? You may wish to stick with your chiro and try someone else or another option. I don't know if she is right or wrong. Some coaches have a very strict interpretation of the program. I am not a big fan of those who advise less restricted because they are there for a reason. This is not the first time your coach said something like this. My coach is highly informational and has been through the program but is weak on the cheerleading aspect and seems to prefer greater losses. I have to tune that out and rationalize for myself. I worry that if you do not do anything fun like restricted or the occasional fun recipe from this site, the diet will grow weary and challenging thereby inhibiting your success. You need to feel successful on this diet. You need to feel good about it. These are huge parts of this experience. It's not just protocol, protocol, protocol everyday.

When you dread going in for coaching you start to share less and less with your coach for fear of hard lining so I just stopped sharing and asking questions. I come on here. If you experiment on your own, you will see what works for you. Some can experiment with the packets and recipes. I can't do that. Rarely. Some do well with MIO. It triggers cravings in me. You will know what works for you. She may be partially right. I don't know. I just know that if going in for coaching makes you anxious it really can mess with your week. I don't know if we lose weight if we are anxious or stressed. Maybe.

tenniels 03-03-2012 05:04 PM

Just for anyone who is interested, this is the Tide commercial. It is LOL worthy for me (probably because its so true!):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QkgRTtUgu8

bethanym 03-03-2012 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tenniels (Post 4239475)
Haha I have been a yoga pants offender for some time now. Jeans have been too uncomfortable, so I just don't wear them. I know when I'm at goal I will ensure I'm trying on non-stretchy pants regularily so I can gauge my body changes on that. Have you seen the Tide commercial where the girl is talking about wearing yoga pants all the time? And then she says "I wear yoga pants because I'm too lazy for real pants" or something like that. Oh god it makes me laugh. YouTube it! :)

I have seen it, and about died the first time!!! But no matter thin I get, I will NEVER completely give up my yoga pants! :D

patns 03-03-2012 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by WingnutandMe (Post 4239420)
Ducksmy had the same problem I did a couple weeks ago. My coach is VERY strict and not really in favor of restrict eds. To please her (and hopefully to help) I stayed off them. I weighed in early the next week (after only 4 days) and had a 6 lb loss and was thrilled. I figured it was like what you've described above.

So, I only added three restrict eds back (had previously been having one a day), stayed 100% OP, went back to my normal WI day (making it 10 days to yesterday's WI) and there I was right back to a low loss (though thank goodness it's a loss).

Now my strict coach, who disagrees with this site and paying attention to the info and eating anything but strict protocol, like making the recipes, especially eating the egg whites, has blown all the wind out my sails. I never slept well last night, all night I had dreams about eating the things she doesn't agree with. Then this morning, I was so upset and distracted, I grabbed the wrong eye drop bottle and promptly put my contact cleaner in my eye. I know this is all in my head, but I'm easily intimidated and this has blown me away mentally.

I cannot change coaches as IP is very new in our area and there's no other choices. Besides, it's my chiropractor that is offering it and I don't want to quit him as I have lots of problems he takes care of in that area.

I'm now afraid to put anything in my mouth. Besides only following strict protocol, she feels everyone should maintain a minimum 3 lb average loss. Two weeks below 3 makes it hard. I have so far to go, but I am so discouraged. If I am one of the unlucky few that can only lose well on strict protocol, it will be hard. I've always loved to cook and have had a great time with all of the recipes. It breaks the monotony and makes it not like a diet.

Sorry for the venting and pity party. Sometimes, you need to talk it out.
Thanks, all. You're such good friends.


It makes me sad to see anyone being bullied. It makes me livid to see someone paying big $$$ to be bullied.

As I read more and more I realize what a great coach I had. But I left the clinic and went to alternatives and am very happy that I did. It was partly because the clinic is an hour each way and my work schedule is hectic.

But it was also partly because I couldn't take the stress of the expectation that one should lose around 3 pounds by a particular time in a week. That stressed me out so bad I always weighed more on weigh in day than the day before and day after.

I am over 60 and that type of loss just wasn't going to happen.

I hated going through my journal with someone who was trying so hard to figure out what was going wrong when my journal was showing exactly what she had told me to do. I was losing 1 to 2 pounds a week.

So I went to alternatives and totally cut out the stress of being accountable to someone else.
I went to the clinic for August and September then continued on my own. I continued to lose 1 to 2 pounds a week and am now moving to maintenance.
I could have continued to go the official IP route and got to maintenance a bit quicker but I doubt it.

I think it was WUV who posted in response to someone else that it is your journey, not your coach's. You have to figure out what works for you. But stress doesn't work for anyone.

I have always been had great difficulty being told what to do; other people love the accountability of working with a knowledgeable coach.

It is hard to advise you what to do in your case as the clinic is attached to your chiropractor and you need to keep going there.

But losing sleep over what was actually a very successful two weeks is not helpful.

But on rereading this it seems you did do better with no restricteds. Your low loss this week may reflect that or may have been the result of the big loss last week.

Maybe try her strict protocol again this week and see how it goes. That way you will have more evidence if you happen to be super carb sensitive and may need a stricter approach. But cutting out the egg whites doesn't make much sense. They are a very low calorie source of quality protein so should only be good for you.

I hope you work this out; but please don't allow the coach to turn your success into a negative experience for you.

Pat

thin4me 03-03-2012 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by wuv2bloved (Post 4239256)
Watercress are allowed , NO to waterchest nuts.....15g of carbs per serving!

Thanks wuv
What is watercrest?


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