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OnMyWayForGood 08-29-2010 06:15 PM

I'm one pound away from having lost 10% of my weight so far!! I don't think I ever actually hit that goal any of the many times I did weight watchers (when my weight wasn't even this high yet!).

I lurk a lot, but read daily, so thank you everyone for your tips, tricks, and help all of the time in these forum posts.

Linden 08-29-2010 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Journeysend (Post 3457845)
I came across a good web site with info on soy, here is a link;

http://breastcancer.about.com/od/ris...oy_bc_diet.htm

hope this helps!!

This is a good article. Thanks a lot.

Jacqueline 08-29-2010 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bella mama (Post 3458054)
Hi. I am new to this site and very glad to find it. This is day 4 for me and it has been a struggle. I feel good and I am not really hungry but I spend most of my day in the bathroom! Anyone else have this problem. Also really struggling with eating all the vegetables. Don't really like them! I eat more lettuce than anything. Why so many veggies???? All of you inspire me.

Bella, I had the same problem at first. I was avoiding lettuce after a few days because of this problem and that left me really hungry, which put me in danger food wise, so it's something you want to clear up quickly if you can. Prior to IP all the grains I ate were whole grains, bread with flax and other seeds, and some veggies now forbidden, so my diet had a fair bit of soluble fibre. I think on IP most of the fibre we get is insoluble fibre from the green veggies, so there's nothing much absorbing water to slow things down, hence the situation you find yourself in.:(

Although it's not on program, I used a couple of teaspoons of ground flax seeds to provide some soluble fibre, sprinkled it on salad or just spooned it down. I did this two or three times in the first two weeks until my system adjusted, and everything is fine now. If you don't have any flax seeds, eating beef can also help slow things down when all that iron hits your colon. Hope this helps. :)

BevS, thanks for the suggestion regarding iodized sea salt--I didn't know it existed. I'll look for it. In the interim, the kelp pills are working well and with my last blood work my thyroid levels are good, so thankfully no worries there.

Jackie

Jacqueline 08-29-2010 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnMyWayForGood (Post 3458293)
I'm one pound away from having lost 10% of my weight so far!! I don't think I ever actually hit that goal any of the many times I did weight watchers (when my weight wasn't even this high yet!).

Congratulations! You're doing amazing! :carrot:

Jackie

amylew 08-29-2010 06:57 PM

Congrats, OnMyWay!

I'm svelting! 08-29-2010 07:23 PM

so now, about me ...
 
Wow, since Saturday morning I've been really tired. Yesterday and today I haven't felt quite right. Weigh-in was no loss/no gain. Yesterday I indulged in some "stinkin' thinkin'" (sorry for the Dr. Swill lingo) and had 2 extra restricted items. After all, I was already at 0 lbs lost. :?:

I've spent more time in the bathroom the last two days than I usually do in a week. Anyone who said "She's full of it" on Friday, would have been right. :D Looking back at my food record, I see that I've gone light on the meat/poultry/fish protein, i.e. had a packet in the evening because I didn't want to prepare and eat the real food. Despite my vegetable evangelism I've been less than rigorous about eating the full 4 cups myself.

Today's been on program. I tried the pancake/crepe; I was hungry only 2.5-3 hours later. Maybe on a day after I've been on program for the previous days, I'll try it again. I just choked down some turkey breast that my dear, sweet partner roasted for us (LOVE :love: him) and am off to forage for some veggies. The foraging will be in the kitchen not in the wilds. ;)

Picking myself up, dusting myself off, moving on to do better now and tomorrow.

xanthia 08-29-2010 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MotherDuckMJ (Post 3458240)
Hi All,

I'm on my 2nd day of IP, hard day, I'm really hungry, ate lunch to early!

Two questions:

1. About how many carbs a day are we getting in phase 1 of IP.

2. Are tofu and low carb vegie meats an OK substitute for the 5 oz. of meat at dinner? I'm mostly vegetarian and don't think I can handle eating meat every day. ;)

Thanks!
MJ

1. Everyone has a different number to stay in ketosis. I stick at 25g (not net, full) but some can go up to 40. I think the happy medium is 30.

2. Yes they are. Your coach can give you a vegetarian sheet.

Midwifemom 08-29-2010 07:28 PM

How bad will lettuce mess me up?
 
I was wondering how badly lettuce will mess me up if I replace a vegetable serving once a day with it? I just kind of faded out on the veggies a bit and so I'd been replacing my lunch veggies with 2c lettuce, EVOO, vinegar and some chopped garlic. But then I read somewhere on here that I could be cutting down my carbs too low and burning muscle?? I don't want to be doing that. I usually have crispy cereal for breakfast, lettuce and a bar for lunch, 2c zucchini and my protien for supper, and then all of my supplements, fish oil, MVM's, salt through the day like we're supposed to. I also drink about 9 or 10 8oz waters daily. Last week (I've only been doing this with the lettuce for a week) I lost 2.5#'s. But if it was muscle I'm going to kick myself! What do you think?:?:

I'm svelting! 08-29-2010 07:53 PM

Slow losers club
 
Another thought about something to test to find the source of slow weight loss: the sugar alcohols (malitol, sorbitol, etc.) in the bars.

http://www.phlaunt.com/lowcarb/19059967.php

Don't go after all of the suspects -- sweeteners, soy, sugar alcohols -- all at once. You'll have no virtually IP packets to eat! Pick one, eliminate it for a few weeks, see if you notice a difference in your results.

candace5 08-29-2010 08:07 PM

Hello Sunday
 
Hello everyone!

Just checking in to say hello! I just read on here about not chewing gum and realized I have been chewing it with asparateme:o Hope this doesn't mess me up too much.. I am so glad this forum is here to be able to learn things like this! It will really help us in our success!

Take care and talk soon!

Candace

HopefulTricia 08-29-2010 08:28 PM

My computer has been slower ever since we went to daily pages. That's when I noticed the change. Just on 3fc site-not on others. And it's a big change- very very slow.
Linden - I would love to come to Hawaii...
Soy -- the IP and Linden ready made drinks dont show
soy on the ingredients list on the packaging. The originial
ingredients pages given to me by my IP doc when I started list soy in the ready mades-- I just assumed they changed them at some point and the IP ingredients list wasn't up to date. I have been avoiding soy because I am hypothyroid.
To all the newbies -- in the beginning, I just took this program one day at a time. I didn't ask much of myself but to just believe it was possible. I didn't exercise -- I just kept plugging along. It takes awhile for the weight to come off, but that was my motivation. I kept a journal to chart my progress. And though I was furious with myself for gaining way too much weight, I just kept believing it could work... tentatively at first. So even if you feel really lousy, suck it up (as my boys would say) and believe it is possible. BECAUSE IT IS!

doxigirl 08-29-2010 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnMyWayForGood (Post 3458293)
I'm one pound away from having lost 10% of my weight so far!! I don't think I ever actually hit that goal any of the many times I did weight watchers (when my weight wasn't even this high yet!).

I lurk a lot, but read daily, so thank you everyone for your tips, tricks, and help all of the time in these forum posts.

Love your avatar. I have two miniature dachshunds. My baby girls!

Quote:

Originally Posted by candace5 (Post 3458408)
Hello everyone!

Just checking in to say hello! I just read on here about not chewing gum and realized I have been chewing it with asparateme:o Hope this doesn't mess me up too much.. I am so glad this forum is here to be able to learn things like this! It will really help us in our success!

Take care and talk soon!

Candace

I chew gum with aspartame every day. I chew 5-6 pieces a day. My weight loss may be slower than others, but it is still okay with me. I'll keep my gum for now. Good luck!

Pegsi 08-29-2010 09:06 PM

My family stresses me out! To the max! I am already exhausted and want to go to bed, Sorry to vent but I jusy needed to get that off my chest. Thanks everyone for being there for all the good and the occasional bad!:p
P.S. where in the .... is my ticker?

Kelsey 08-29-2010 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I'm svelting! (Post 3457910)
Sorry for the double post, quoting the same post, but I didn't want this information and question to get buried.. I've just checked the ingredient list for the RTDs and the hot chocolate packets and didn't find soy. Did I miss something? Or, am I the bearer of good news?

UPDATE: I've uploaded a spreadsheet with soy, gluten, sucralose and ace K (sweetener) information on the FAQ thread.

Link to my post:
http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/idea...ml#post3457961

I'm using Lindora now. The hot choc, the bars, the crunchy chili & lime soy, all have soy. I'm going to try to stick to the Pure protein drinks (I think they have it too, but not a lot). Thanks for the soy info addition!

Quote:

Originally Posted by WyoSun (Post 3458244)
I think we should plan a girl's trip to Hawaii. I want to meet you guys and what better way to do it. Look out Linden....here we come!!!!!

yes, WyoSun!!! Yes!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linden (Post 3458249)
Dear President Kelsey,

You nailed it! What doesn't have soy? In my case, nothing I had in the house and I'm still waiting for non-soy packets to arrive from Maui. Here they are -- and most are higher in carbs than puddings, etc.

Strawberry pudding 100 calories 1 carb/0 sugar/0 fiber
Raspberry Jelly 100 2/0/0
Blueberry. . . . 95 2/.3/.2
UHT Vanilla Drink 100 3/0/1
UHT Chocolate Drink 100 4/0/1
Orange Drink (blech!) 100 4/0/0
Pink Lemonade 90 4/0/1
Cappuccino 108 5/1/1
Peach Mango 100 5/0/1
Chocolate Drink 120 7/0/3
Yogurt 100 14/0/1
Sea Salt Vinegar 160 14/1/2

What I've done is eat my dinner for breakfast and bought some whey powder to tide me over; and gained 4 pounds. Perhaps you should look elsewhere for an example.

So, Christmas in Berlin? Snow, lovely street fairs, mulled wine, snow?

And welcome all you newbies. What a great adventure!

PS: My Skype number is in my profile. However I was otherwise occupied at 3:48 this morning.

I don't have IP stuff anymore. Also, I don't eat anything that is berry or fruity. I would love more salt & vinegar ridges, but wow those are restricted! Sigh, I'm going to try to stick to the Pure protein and hot chocolate!

Will you be in Berlin by Christmas???

Quote:

Originally Posted by BevS (Post 3458268)
Hi, Kelsey, it's probably the weight loss that has caused your hair loss.

I hope you're right, but no matter the cause, I have to find a way to slow this hairloss down. :( My daughter was over earlier and she said, Mama, you have so much hair on your sweater (yes, I am always cold, so I was wearing a sweater)...

Quote:

Originally Posted by I'm svelting! (Post 3458361)
Wow, since Saturday morning I've been really tired. Yesterday and today I haven't felt quite right.

Today's been on program. I tried the pancake/crepe; I was hungry only 2.5-3 hours later. Maybe on a day after I've been on program for the previous days, I'll try it again. I just choked down some turkey breast that my dear, sweet partner roasted for us (LOVE :love: him) and am off to forage for some veggies. The foraging will be in the kitchen not in the wilds. ;)

Picking myself up, dusting myself off, moving on to do better now and tomorrow.

:dust: You're back on track! You'll have a great week! :hug:

Quote:

Originally Posted by I'm svelting! (Post 3458392)
Another thought about something to test to find the source of slow weight loss: the sugar alcohols (malitol, sorbitol, etc.) in the bars.

http://www.phlaunt.com/lowcarb/19059967.php

Don't go after all of the suspects -- sweeteners, soy, sugar alcohols -- all at once. You'll have no virtually IP packets to eat! Pick one, eliminate it for a few weeks, see if you notice a difference in your results.

I'm really limiting this week to hot chocolate and pure protein drinks!

Journeysend 08-29-2010 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candace5 (Post 3458408)
Hello everyone!

Just checking in to say hello! I just read on here about not chewing gum and realized I have been chewing it with asparateme:o Hope this doesn't mess me up too much.. I am so glad this forum is here to be able to learn things like this! It will really help us in our success!

Take care and talk soon!

Candace

Quote:

Originally Posted by doxigirl (Post 3458447)
Love your avatar. I have two miniature dachshunds. My baby girls!



I chew gum with aspartame every day. I chew 5-6 pieces a day. My weight loss may be slower than others, but it is still okay with me. I'll keep my gum for now. Good luck!

For all you gum chewers... I found a gum in a health food store that is legal for us!! It is called Spry and is sweetened with xylitol. Hope this helps ;)

Kelsey 08-29-2010 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Journeysend (Post 3458491)
For all you gum chewers... I found a gum in a health food store that is legal for us!! It is called Spry and is sweetened with xylitol. Hope this helps ;)

My IP clinic (where I use to go) carries the Spry gum!

Linden 08-29-2010 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I'm svelting! (Post 3458392)
Another thought about something to test to find the source of slow weight loss: the sugar alcohols (malitol, sorbitol, etc.) in the bars.

I've never had a bar and only eaten IP food. But keep the suggestions coming.

Linden 08-29-2010 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I'm svelting! (Post 3458361)
Wow, since Saturday morning I've been really tired.

Sorry you are feeling off color.

Linden 08-29-2010 10:20 PM

Kelsey "Will you be in Berlin by Christmas???"

I sure hope so. Pretty soon I'll need to get my tickets, weight loss or no. What's really holding me up are Andy the Cat and The Puppy. I can only take one animal myself and am looking for someone who'd like a free trip to Berlin in exchange for taking one of them. I only mention this on the slim chance that that someone is out there. There would be a free apartment on that end, too, since my son's family and I will be spending the 10 days around Christmas in Saxony.

purpleswan 08-29-2010 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BevS (Post 3458256)
Yes, be sure to eat everything you're supposed to, especially your protein. Weigh the dinner meat if at all possible. If you haven't already done so, buy yourself an inexpensive food scale. I have a friend who started IP 4 weeks ago, lost 8 pounds, then gained them all back while "following the program exactly." I loaned her my scale and turns out she was guessing way too little for the correct amount of dinner protein. She needed to double it. I'm hoping to see her weight loss pick back up.



Hi, Jackie, I have hypothyroidism too. There are sea salt brands out there that have iodine in them. I make sure I buy one that has it. Real Salt has an iodized version, as well as Hain.

Hi Bev,

I just wanted to say that I have lost 2 of the 8 again. I also had to increase the veggies. Having the the scale has helped me keep better track. I like the custard by the way. Not hungry any more either. Actually feel stuffed most of the time. Guess I'm a slow starter. Thanks coach!
Beth

purpleswan 08-30-2010 12:03 AM

can't find where to just post my own comment to bev
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BevS (Post 3458268)
Hi, Kelsey, it's probably the weight loss that has caused your hair loss. I have been hypothyroid and on medication for it since 1986, but I have never had major hair loss until 2-3 months on this diet. It can happen with any diet or weight loss surgery even--anything that causes you to lose about 20 pounds in one month's time. Carla suggested taking Michael's vitamins for hair, skin, and nails. My hair loss has slowed down, thankfully, but it's still more than it used to be. Carla said it will take 6 months to a year for it to normalize.

Bev,
So am I to expect this hair loss issue too??? I'm not too crazy about that idea!! Where and how do I just post to you without "quoting"?
here is my ticker
http://www.3fatchicks.net/img/purpvi...5/170/222/.png
how do I get it to go in my posts each time or do I have to keep posting it myself?
Beth

candace5 08-30-2010 12:11 AM

Thanks for the info on the Spry Gum! I will check it out! After reading the above posts, I think I need to get a scale to weigh my meat.. I have been using the "should fit in the palm of your hand theory".. not sure if this is right??

JessicaCourez 08-30-2010 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Midlife Meggie (Post 3457639)
I read somewhere on this board that somebody cooked their egg in a cup in the microwave to make it fit the English muffin perfectly (I am of similar OCD tendencies). HOWEVER, when I tried this, piercing the yolk carefully with a knife first, the egg STILL exploded. I'd put a paper towel on top of the cup and it was blown clear off. Put the egg on for 2 minutes on high and it exploded after 30 seconds. Mess mess mess. What did I do wrong?

I didn't mention this on here, but I do it...but I beat the egg slightly first so its scrambled...have never tried it with out scrambling.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnMyWayForGood (Post 3458293)
I'm one pound away from having lost 10% of my weight so far!! I don't think I ever actually hit that goal any of the many times I did weight watchers (when my weight wasn't even this high yet!).

I lurk a lot, but read daily, so thank you everyone for your tips, tricks, and help all of the time in these forum posts.

I remember when I'd gotten to that part on IP too -- it happened so quickly on this program. WAAAY faster than on WW, and I'd gotten to that 10% twice.

Quote:

Originally Posted by I'm svelting! (Post 3458361)
Wow, since Saturday morning I've been really tired. Yesterday and today I haven't felt quite right. Weigh-in was no loss/no gain. Yesterday I indulged in some "stinkin' thinkin'" (sorry for the Dr. Swill lingo) and had 2 extra restricted items. After all, I was already at 0 lbs lost. :?:

I've spent more time in the bathroom the last two days than I usually do in a week. Anyone who said "She's full of it" on Friday, would have been right. :D Looking back at my food record, I see that I've gone light on the meat/poultry/fish protein, i.e. had a packet in the evening because I didn't want to prepare and eat the real food. Despite my vegetable evangelism I've been less than rigorous about eating the full 4 cups myself.

Today's been on program. I tried the pancake/crepe; I was hungry only 2.5-3 hours later. Maybe on a day after I've been on program for the previous days, I'll try it again. I just choked down some turkey breast that my dear, sweet partner roasted for us (LOVE :love: him) and am off to forage for some veggies. The foraging will be in the kitchen not in the wilds. ;)

Picking myself up, dusting myself off, moving on to do better now and tomorrow.

I know how you feel, I had a rough saturday. Too many protein packets, hungry the whole day. Picked myself up today and did the program perfectly.

NSV today: Im not sure if my bra is stretching out or I'm getting smaller, but went from the last hook on my new 34 bra to the second hook.

JessicaCourez 08-30-2010 03:23 AM

Oh, and SoonToBe: You look great! Congrats!!

Also, I looked up having itchy skin (its been really bad) as a sign of losing weight...and found a few entries. Not sure if its true, or not, but I'll take it...

I'm svelting! 08-30-2010 07:36 AM

new thread for Monday open
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by purpleswan (Post 3458656)
So am I to expect this hair loss issue too??? I'm not too crazy about that idea!! Where and how do I just post to you without "quoting"? here is my ticker, how do I get it to go in my posts each time or do I have to keep posting it myself?

Beth
- only about 10% of people experience the hair loss.
---->there's a thread about hair loss. check it out!
- link to Ticker information is in 1st, 2nd or 3rd post of this thread
- you can add a signature and a ticker after your 21st day and after 20 posts
- you can contact other members via Private Message (PM) after the same days & posts minimum
- if you haven't read the Tips for Newbies, go check it out.


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