3 Fat Chicks on a Diet Weight Loss Community - IP Weekly Chat July 12th

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Jordanna, I'm beyond thrilled for you. Congratulations to you and the whole family! Wishing you a very happy and healthy pregnancy.:hug:

Jordanna,
I am so very happy for you and your family. That is truly amazing.

So tonight I attended the "Big sky state games" opening ceremony here in Montana. Tomorrow morning I will be defending my gold medal in billiards. So for in Billiards I have 2gold 1silver 1bronze. I am so stinkin excited. I love to play pool. I shoot 2 nights a week during the fall winter season and one night during the summer. Plus we go to vegas every year for 12 days to shoot in nationals. Anyway enough about pool while I was at the opening ceremony tonight Aaron Tippen was performing. I got to meet him and have my pic taken and he signed my state games t shirt. It was super cool. I was not excpecting it at all. He is a really cool guy! Just thought I would share. for those of you who don't know who he is, he is a big country singer. I enjoy all types of music but I really do like him a lot. Plus his wife is from Montana so that makes it even cooler.

Great news, Jordanna... I'm really happy for you... :cheer3:

Originally Posted by Bretley:
This is only my second time posting but my tracker works...I think you just need to have an account for a certain number of days.

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Originally Posted by mamaerinb:
wowzas!! you must be an exception to the rule! or they changed their rules...back in the good ol' days of april 2010, it was 20 days, 25 posts.

would be nice if they finally changed it, more people could show off their accomplishments!

Its still the rule to use a tracker in your signature, so you don't have to take the time to enter the link into every post. You can get your tracker as soon as you create an account, but if you wanna show people you have to copy the link into every post :D

Originally Posted by jordanna:
...waves hello to everyone....

sorry I haven't been around much lately. something crazy has happened in my life...

When I moved to phase 3 & 4 I was feeling really really crappy. My stomach hurt all the time and I was exhausted and I attributed it to reintroducing carbs in to my life & processing animal proteins again...I talked to my coach and she did a bunch of research and she couldn't find anyone who was having the same problems as me so she gave me some enzymes to see if that would help...but before I started taking them my husband came back in to town and I told him how I was feeling. That evening he went to the grocery store to pick up some milk & when he came home he threw a pregnancy test at me and told me to take it...I was skeptical because as many of you know we adopted our little guy Hudson after trying to get pregnant for 6 years...

long story short, three pregnancy tests later I finally believe it...I'm pregnant!

We're not very far along, only 7.5 weeks...but ya we're really excited and hoping for the best and every spare moment I have is spent napping because I'm exhausted all the time lol.

So as a warning to everyone who doesn't want to get pregnant... IP helps people get pregnant when they couldn't even after trying for 6 years and went on every fertility drug out there.... so watch out!

PS - to all my peeps on facebook please don't mention it publicly on facebook as we haven't told many of our "real life" friends because my parents are out of town and I don't want everyone we know to know before they do.

YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAY!!!! Aw, I just love this for you!! And we sure do miss ya around here!!:hug::carrot::hug:

Congratulations, Jordanna!

I've had 2 friends, who tried everything for years to have a baby (including multiple in vitro for one)... who, after losing a significant amount of weight, became mothers, twice in a few years each!

So glad you'll get that life's experience!

Originally Posted by mamaerinb:
i have heard this from probably 98% of the members on here :) coaches are nice to have to hold you accountable but i think most questions are answered better here.

I work in a 3 professional shared office situation. The chiropractor runs the IP program. I get weighed each week, and buy food/supplements, but that's it. I have to take my own measurements (as he only has a receptionist, and she has to do all the other work). I was given the packet, read it, filled out the forms... and just jumped in.

I got more reading the boards here, to be honest. And I also copied all the nutritional info from the IP website (before they took it down), and keep track of my food/calories on Calorie King - but I get my real "in the trenches information" here.

:congrat: :preg: :hug: :cloud9: :dance:
I am sooo happy for you! What awesome news! You have accomplished so much for this to be possible and I can only imagine how elated you and Dustin are. I just can't get over it! WOWEE!! Way to go! You are gonna be such a cute little pregnant mum!! I can't wait to hear how your families respond. I'm gonna be keeping you all in my prayers for a healthy happy pregnancy. :hug: :hug:

Hello Everyone! :)

Sitting her on the boat. I temporarily have taken over my father's laptop and m-ifi card. I guess I am addicted to you all! :hug: Not sure if I will find anothe quiet moment with computer access to sit and read posts. Although, I may try to just send an update here and there during the week.

My flight went very well! It was smooth, no bumpiness, not overly crowded or hot. I loved fit in the seat with room to spare! Such a strange thing. I don't think I realize how much space I took in the world. It is so weird to be in similar situations and "feel" small. :)

San Francisco is great! As expected I stepped out of the airport, shivered, promptly unpacked a sweater and put it on. LOL... oh well, cozy has its benefits too. We went to dinner at this great little diner near the Embarcadero, a place that has been around for 25 years (as of yesterday) and, where I remember eating 22 years ago ... the Fog City Diner. LOVED IT! I just went simple this time. I had a grilled chicken salad with cucumber, tomatoes, celery, romaine, lemon, WF bleu cheese. It worked. I was happy to see my Dad and Bonnie (step-mom) enjoying their meals. It really was nice to be back in a place I had such nice memories in. As we left the diner and drove to the Marina, we got to watch the fireworks from the Giants game, I guess they won. :)

Sister got stranded in Richmond so, she will be arriving a bit later than planned. That means the morning at the farmers market alone. Oh well. I love those places. She will arrive by lunch and I am so looking forward to it!

SO, the BIG... BIG.. news! I am back in my fat burning place. :flow2::flow2::flow2::flow2::flow2:

I haven't felt this in 2 months! SERIOUSLY.. Just a dull slow thing was happening. I have been busting my but the past week to make shift. 2 nights ago I started to dream of food again. TODAY, I was sitting on the plane chatting and I got hit with this wave of nauseous, tin mouth taste, extreme thirst and headache. I feel.. tingly and jazzed again. WILD! I remember how this felt. I am so excited. I didn't want to eat when we went out. I was so worried, something, anything might take it away and I have worked so hard to get here! DARN IT ALL, I didn't bring a scale. GRR I can't wait to get home to weigh! Maybe this is a good thing. Maybe it will force me to be extra diligent on the trip so I may see the results!

Worse part of today... in my rush to leave the house, my lovely pill pack, was left in the kitchen. BF is mailing it but I will be with out it for 3 days. May have to make a health food store stop to get something.

I hope I will be excused, there is so much activity on the board today! Lots of threads and posts. I just am too tired to read it all and not sure when I will catch up. If there was something specificaly addressed to me and I have missed it, please PM me. I will check for PMs if nothing else. THANKS!

Wishing everyone a great weekend! May we all see Lots of NSVS and Great losses next week

Originally Posted by jordanna:
...waves hello to everyone....

sorry I haven't been around much lately. something crazy has happened in my life...

long story short, three pregnancy tests later I finally believe it...I'm pregnant!

We're not very far along, only 7.5 weeks...but ya we're really excited and hoping for the best and every spare moment I have is spent napping because I'm exhausted all the time lol.

are out of town and I don't want everyone we know to know before they do.

YEAH!! I am SOO extremely happy for you! Your husband must be happy too! Just think next year you will have 2 little ones to celebrate birthdays with!

Originally Posted by Coastalcrafter:
(If I may share my experience)-PLEASE have your dr check your thyroid levels-thru bloodwork-it may be as simple as you having to take medication!

.. ~Rosemary

I agree! I have mildly hypothyroid body. It is improved but, my hair has always been thin, fine. When my hair fell out, I was being monitored and we knew my thyroid was actually IMPROVING so, we were able to look for other answers.

Honestly, I think hair loss should be checked before just written off to stress loss or nutritional deficits. If all looks good then, maybe the other two are the answer.

Originally Posted by natchamp:
Ok, can someone help me. I seem to be incapable of quoting people with the grey box around their quote. How does one quote correctly? I feel stupid. I bet it's obvious.

at the lower right corner of each post are some words and icons. quote is first, click it and it quotes one post for you to respond to. The next is a multi quote icon, it has a ", use the multi quote as much as you can. when you reach the last person you wish to quote, then hit the quote key and a string of posts to respond to will appear.

Originally Posted by Novak:
LOL! I read this too quickly without my glasses, and thought you said you could now suck your toes... Sorry!

Though if you think about it, that would be pretty impressive, too. :D

OMG ... LAUGHING HYSTERICALLY!

Originally Posted by hateusernames:
Carla,
I have been on the alternative site looking up hair loss. Suddenly in month 5 I am loosing fist-fulls of hair. By my estimate in the last 2 weeks I've lost almost half of my hair! I saw you take a multi for hair, what brand did you go with and at what rate do you take it? This has been a real emotional shocker to me, and your help would be very welcome.

Consider speaking to your doctor to determine any thryoid or adrenal changes, they can do this with bloodwork. THEN, have them check your nutritional levels of D and B vitamins and Iron. Also, if they will have them look at your selenium, idodine, choline and inositol levels. The last 2 are hardest to find a person to test. Any of the prior mentioned can cause hair loss.

IF you are healthy, then consider this is a result of a rapid weight loss. You may supplement if you wish and your levels of nutrition (tested above) are not elevated. I use Michaels skin hair and nails. I have also used shen min advanced for women. I think I notice more with the Michaels. I also take selenium, idodine, choline/insitol because I am low in my thyroid activity and it seems related to these items.

My hair fell out in hand fulls for about 2.5 months. Then about the time I knew what supplement to take, it was over. I shed very little now. My hair is longer, softer, and shiny. I expect, in the near future, it will be fuller too.

You could try using NIOXIN hair products. I used this years ago with good results and ELIZABETH recommends it based on what she has seen it do for people. I haven't used it this time but, I am considering it.

I truly understand your concern. I told my coach "I don't want to be the skinny bald girl!" Guess what, I'm not! Thin hair yes, uncomfortablly thin, uh huh. But, I can tell it is changing again. I don't expect this to be permanent and you shouldn't either.

Originally Posted by Linden:
I could really use some advice. I have stuck to the protocol totally. Done everything I was told to do, including have one restricted packet a day for the first two weeks. Probably only the second time in my life I've been so diligent. (First time was when I was pregnant.) Twice now I've had good losses; and twice, over 30 days, I've gained back practically all the weight. Apparently I've gone into starvation mode. But [I]if[I] I follow protocol I can't seem to get above 800 calories a day.

My coach says add more protein. That will take me well over 100 grams of protein a day. And she has never seen this happen before. Please, if any of you have had a similar experience could you please share how you dealt with it? What you might have been advised? I really, really want to do this, and do it right.

And Carla, have a great time in SF. Unfortunately someone got to my Twain quote before me. The first time I came back to SF from Hawai'i I was so cold I thought my teeth would rattle out of my head. And then the wind picked up! I was so cold I went to Goodwill to buy some woolen slacks because that was the only place I could find wool in June.

AWW! :) I love the Twain quotes! I can't recall who sent it but, thanks! I did think I multiquoted it but it isn't here :?:

I completely understand, as I type this with slightly blue nails! LOL

I am so sorry this weight rollercoaster is happening. I personally, can only say my experience is completely exclusive of restricted food and I only get occasionally veggies one or twice a month. My coach would prefer never on that too. I just can't go there.

Are you keeping a journal? You say what has your coach seen in the entries? Anything? I am very sensitive to sugars and, in the beggining even fennel can kick me out. I can't cook my red peppers ever, even a little. It was a real issue.

To gain that much weight back in 1 month tells me your body is storing glucose and glycogen again. I could be wrong but it is a sound theory. Each gram of glycogen is stored with 4 grams of water. Expand that idea to pounds and you can see how quickly the weight is added. Unfortunately, that would mean you aren't in ketosis and something, food, carb, or your body is causing and increase.

It is just about 4 weeks that we adapt to our ketosis and the gluconeogenesis is in full swing to stabilize blood sugar. That proces makes energy for our body using enzymes and aminos. Eating pure protein will still allow your body to increase its own glucose levels. Some people have a very hard time getting into ketosis and staying there. Most often it is due to a metabolic X issue. If you aren't sure if you have this you could speak with a doctor. This not so un common occurance is discussed on the Atkins diet and in another book, I have it at home and will email you next week, by an endocrinologist in Chandler, AZ who specializes in metabolic disorders. For these people, they have to do a very strict moderate to high protein diet with 30% or more of their daily food including FAT. They can't enter ketosis and stay in it without having the added fat. Their body is "too good at protecting itself from losing fat so, it has to be teased to give it up." They also have to avoid carbs. They have the lowest threshold for tolerating them and need to do without for longer than some others.

Try adding more fat to your diet for awhile. Maybe go for 1oz whole milk instead of skim, it will give fat and trim carbs. Also, stay away from any veggies that have sweet or starchy elements. AVOID green soy beans. Too much starch and sugar in those. Don't eat too many of the cooke green veggies that turn to carbs... ie spinach.

Increase your omega oils. Try going up to 1 or 2 tbsp a day. I know it is a large amount but it will increase your calories in a healthy way. And not effect ketosis if you get into it.

Try not to eat more than 20g of protein at one time. Anything in excess of 20 g at a time is convert into sugar by the body for many people. That is because anything unusable is stored and the body can not quickly break down and USE more that 20g of protein at a time. If you are eating too much protein, you will feel good, but it is because you are having "false" sugar created.

I hope that is a start. I will think of anything else I can and send you a message if I can. If not, I will pm you next sunday night with the book info and anything else I remember.

:hug: Carla

Originally Posted by showgirlaz:
Hello Everyone! :)

SO, the BIG... BIG.. news! I am back in my fat burning place. :flow2::flow2::flow2::flow2::flow2:

I haven't felt this in 2 months! SERIOUSLY.. Just a dull slow thing was happening. I have been busting my but the past week to make shift. 2 nights ago I started to dream of food again. TODAY, I was sitting on the plane chatting and I got hit with this wave of nauseous, tin mouth taste, extreme thirst and headache. I feel.. tingly and jazzed again. WILD! I remember how this felt. I am so excited. I didn't want to eat when we went out. I was so worried, something, anything might take it away and I have worked so hard to get here! DARN IT ALL, I didn't bring a scale. GRR I can't wait to get home to weigh! Maybe this is a good thing. Maybe it will force me to be extra diligent on the trip so I may see the results! :hug: Carla

Brilliant, Carla!! :cheer: Great news... you'll be joining us on the "Life After" thread in no time!

And to all who have been discussing coaching (or the lack thereof) on this thread, please read Carla's post. We are all fortunate to be on this forum, because you really couldn't ask for better coaching than we get here. :D

Originally Posted by jordanna:
...waves hello to everyone....

sorry I haven't been around much lately. something crazy has happened in my life...I'm pregnant!

Congratulations!!! I am so happy for you!:dancer:

Originally Posted by showgirlaz:
SO, the BIG... BIG.. news! I am back in my fat burning place. :flow2::flow2::flow2::flow2::flow2

at the lower right corner of each post are some words and icons. quote is first, click it and it quotes one post for you to respond to. The next is a multi quote icon, it has a ", use the multi quote as much as you can. when you reach the last person you wish to quote, then hit the quote key and a string of posts to respond to will appear.

Carla, that's great! You are such a tribute to showing that if you remain dedicated and stick with it, good things will happen. I think the fact that you kind of stalled for 2 months and hung in there is amazing!! :bravo:

I am so glad that you explained the multi-quoting thing. I had been cutting and pasting, and losing the original post I wanted to respond to, and didn't reply to a lot of things I wanted too... THANKS!!

Originally Posted by Coastalcrafter:
Has anyone noticed a bit of 'sensitivity' when they started the diet? What I mean is I have always 'stuffed' ( with food) negative emotions down.. Now I find them surfacing.. this is new to me, I am usually Joyful all the time.. Part of the detoxing???

My theory is that it is the extra estrogen we are releasing. I rarely get so emotional that I cry, but I've been weepy several times over the last month. Fortunately it doesn't happen too often or last too long. I usually try to do something that makes me feel better, other than food, like read a good book, watch a favorite move, hug my kids, give myself a pedicure, take a warm bath, or go for a walk.

Originally Posted by mamaerinb:
it's the lack of carbohydrates and devil woman juice ;)

Devil woman juice, I love it! :devil:

Originally Posted by BevS:
I vote YAY. I'm still having a bar every day and have since day 1 of the diet. They are pretty much identical to the IP ones. Some (like the caramel nut) are made by the same manufacturer. I'm not recommending a bar every day for everybody, but for some people they don't hurt. And you only have 2 pounds to go until goal. YAY for you! Have a treat!.

You know, I have had two weeks where I ate bars every day due to their convenience on trips I've taken, and in those two weeks I had my largest losses to date. I don't think they made me lose more, but they obviously didn't hurt me.

So I made pancakes this morning and couldn't even finish one of them. Not because they weren't good- they were amazing. Mostly because I got so full! I used to just stuff myself until I was sick, but something psychological has happened where I now understand that I don't need 39458734312343209 pancakes to be satisfied.

I guess I'm slowly coming off my food addiction. Praise God. :)

Last night the fiance and I went to the movies and I was surrounded by popcorn and candy. I'm not going to lie- movies are hard to go to without popcorn for me. The little trick I used to get through the craving was that I thought about how each little kernel would equal a little dimple of cellulite on my thighs. We're going to St. Lucia for our honeymoon and the last thing I want it to be called the "cottage cheese thigh newly wed".

Originally Posted by Coastalcrafter:
so does it eventually level off or am I gonna become and stay a crabby skinny gal? lol

Originally Posted by BevS:
I was pretty irritable without my carbs. If my hubby looked at me crossways, I was ready for a fight. When our carb levels are low, our serotonin levels are also low, and serotonin keeps our moods regulated.

I notice that I'm a bit more irritable than I usually know myself to be. I sure hope this levels off or, even better, entirely passes.

Hmmm... I'll have to figure out ways to manage my serotonin. I'll be starting my light treatment for seasonal affective disorder in early August. And look into some other treatments (i.e. supplements, exercise) as well.

Originally Posted by mamaerinb:
my highlight of the night was going to 6 redboxes to find my daughter the new barbie dvd...then going to the grocery store to pick up maybe 10 things, go to the register and could not find my card. had to tell the cashier that i had to leave to go find it. got to sports utility vehicle, rummaged through everything and then found it in my purse. NICE.

i gained a lb over this last week and for the first time, i kind of don't care. i think i've finally come to realize with this plan, that you will lose it eventually, if you just stick with it. i've never made a goal and reached it. i will reach this one.

I've done this so many times :mad: Once I thought I lost my condo keys (mailbox, storage, suite and outside doors). My sweetheart got a new set for me. Three or four days later I found them in the purse I had with me when I thought I'd lost them. :mad: :devil: :o

Originally Posted by jordanna:
sorry I haven't been around much lately. something crazy has happened in my life...

When I moved to phase 3 & 4 I was feeling really really crappy. My stomach hurt all the time and I was exhausted and I attributed it to reintroducing carbs in to my life & processing animal proteins again...I talked to my coach and she did a bunch of research and she couldn't find anyone who was having the same problems as me so she gave me some enzymes to see if that would help...but before I started taking them my husband came back in to town and I told him how I was feeling. That evening he went to the grocery store to pick up some milk & when he came home he threw a pregnancy test at me and told me to take it...I was skeptical because as many of you know we adopted our little guy Hudson after trying to get pregnant for 6 years...

long story short, three pregnancy tests later I finally believe it...I'm pregnant!

Really wonderful news ... Will you rename your blog Memoirs of a :preg: Fat Kid?

Originally Posted by jordash:
I'm envious of the big losers this week. I was very on program and only lost 2 pounds :mad:! then I think about the total loss in 6 weeks and have to :). I've lost inches too, though most seemed to be in the first week. I'm having some skin changes, the occasional hot flash, my hands are cold when they've always been warm and on and on. Thankfully I've heard others stories, so know to just chill and pounds will continue to come off.

Although it's a lower number than you want, 2 pounds is great :carrot: I always have to remind myself that human processes -- such as weight loss, learning, healing -- are NOT linear. Darn mechanical world view doesn't apply really well to organic processes.

Originally Posted by showgirlaz:
My flight went very well! It was smooth, no bumpiness, not overly crowded or hot. I loved fit in the seat with room to spare! Such a strange thing. I don't think I realize how much space I took in the world. It is so weird to be in similar situations and "feel" small. :)

San Francisco is great! ... We went to dinner at ... the Fog City Diner. LOVED IT! I just went simple this time. I had a grilled chicken salad with cucumber, tomatoes, celery, romaine, lemon, WF bleu cheese. It worked. I was happy to see my Dad and Bonnie (step-mom) enjoying their meals. It really was nice to be back in a place I had such nice memories in. ...

SO, the BIG... BIG.. news! I am back in my fat burning place.

I haven't felt this in 2 months! SERIOUSLY.. Just a dull slow thing was happening. I have been busting my butt the past week to make shift. 2 nights ago I started to dream of food again. TODAY, I was sitting on the plane chatting and I got hit with this wave of nauseous, tin mouth taste, extreme thirst and headache. I feel.. tingly and jazzed again. WILD! I remember how this felt. I am so excited. I didn't want to eat when we went out. I was so worried, something, anything might take it away and I have worked so hard to get here! DARN IT ALL, I didn't bring a scale. GRR I can't wait to get home to weigh! Maybe this is a good thing. Maybe it will force me to be extra diligent on the trip so I may see the results!

An NSV two-fer on the same flight -- fitting in the seat with room to spare and returning to fat burning. :yay: :cheer: Who knew that a metallic taste, nausea, thirst and a headache would be cause for celebration??!! :encore: :woo:

Thank you for sharing your experience and knowledge with such caring. :hug: Knowing that there are ways to deal with situations that may arise makes a big difference to me.

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I've probably had more artificial sweetener in the last 10 days than I've had in the last 2 years (maybe even 5-10 years). I've noticed that 30 minutes after I eat the sweeter packets (pudding, drinks, cereal), my toes get numb and tingly. The feeling dissipates over the next hour or so. Is this a known reaction to either/both sweetener(s)?

I'm testing my theory this weekend by using only the soup and omelets and may have evidence that acesulfame K or sucralose could be the cause of the numbness.

Can someone tell me if you are allowed more than 2 tsp. of olive oil a day? I want to use olive oil and vinegar dressing on both my salads every day, but I've been afraid to do it.

Thanks to all for the exercise advice, I still need to learn the quoting thing.

I do like that this diet works without worrying about the exercise at the beginning, I guess there have been two things have made me consider it. First was this last WI was 1.8 lbs, not happy. WI#1 8.7lbs, WI#2 4.5lbs, and then WI#3 1.8lbs. SO dissapointing. Could be TOM related, I started 2 days after, but we'll have to wait till next week to see. And I was hungry a lot last week, not sure if that's good or bad, I didn't cheat I don't think. The other reason I'm considering working out is in a couple of weeks I'm going on a vacation with the hubby and kids, we're off to the mountains and we'll be doing hiking, I don't want to be rediculously out of shape. I want to feel good but we'll be carrying bags and kids so I know I need to be able to handle that. Those are my reasons behind thinking about starting.

Calling all Canadians...

Quick questions for my fellow Canadians here, it's about ordering. I bought the last of the ready made IP pudding from my coach and thought since I liked those that I should try the powdered IP ones thinking they would taste the same, not! I would SO like to get my hands on some ready made ones. Have you found anything else here you can order that is comparable? I never tried the ready made IP drinks and he doesn't have any of those either now, but I would consider buying some of those too, I like how easy they are (I bought the Pure Protien cans from Extra Foods and they were just okay). Another Canadian on this site, I can't remember who, suggested a Dr.B's clinic but they don't have any in Manitoba, I checked. If anyone has some advice on this I would be very greatful.

Funny thing, I told my hubby how IP doesn't have the product right now because they're 'reformulating'. He laughed and said that's code for 'they lost their distributer'. Hmm, I wonder, my hubby is kind of a skeptic though.

Well I had an interesting NSV. Warning to the guys reading this thread, you may feel this is TMI.

During my shower (I have a full bath tub, shower assembly), I noticed shaving my legs that I could see the entire back of my thigh. By this I mean; I put my leg on the ledge of the tub and twist around. I guess I can twist a little farther (since some of the fat is missing from my waist) and my boo-tay isn't casting a shadow. Sorry I had to share, I was impressed :o.