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Beverlyjoy 01-26-2014 09:52 AM

Hi folks... thanks for the nice welcome.

Last night I finished reading the Overfed Head. I think he has explained it - now I need to transfer to my brain to figure out how I do it.

One thing he said that jumped out at me is when starting IE - it's like taking a leap of faith. I think that sounds about right.

I've been doing EI for four days. Two nights ago I ate a piece of bacon with no guilt. It felt so good. That's not all I ate... but, I included it in my dinner.

BTW - I am 61 --- almost 62! Southern Maiden... how about that.;)

pattygirl63 01-26-2014 05:01 PM

MavenThanks for the welcome back and for the shared youtube show. It really says it all doesn't it?

Thousandsunny and BeverlyJoy WELCOME!!! So glad that you joined us.

Cindy I love the way you handled your eating while traveling. Good job.

I am enjoying eating what I want and enjoying it even while using the WW pts system. However, my problem (my reason for using WW Pts+ woe) at this point is the portions. This is only because I actually love the taste of some foods and can't always tell if I'm really hungry or if I just want more of the taste. Since I have a tendency to overeat foods because of my love of the taste, I have been making myself wait about 15 minutes to see if I am really hungry or if I just want the taste. It really helps me because I know I can have it if I'm really hungry for it, but most of the time I find that by waiting a bit the desire goes away. I am trying my best to learn the difference in the feeling of "true" hunger and "just the desire" for taste since I seem to have lost the ability to know the difference. However, I am quite sure it can be learned again.

I still believe the IE is the best way to eat. I've done it before in my life when I was thin and I'm determined to do it again.

CindySunshine 01-26-2014 06:13 PM

Maven I can't see that video! It says it is blocked in my country? Weird?

mlroman 01-26-2014 06:33 PM

That is a fantastic video, Maven! Thanks for sharing it!

Welcome, new friends! =)

SouthernMaven 01-26-2014 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CindySunshine (Post 4928973)
Maven I can't see that video! It says it is blocked in my country? Weird?

Cindy, I don't have any idea why it's blocked. Last time I checked, Florida was still part of the U.S. :D

May have something to do with your browser; I don't know. If you go to YouTube, search STOP DIETING and it's the first video that shows up on the playlist.

Beverlyjoy 01-27-2014 06:55 AM

Hi. Well I 'made it through' an impromptu dinner out with neighbors for dinner. I wanted the pulled pork but thought I ought to get the grilled chicken. However, I went with the pulled pork and it was delicious. I tried hard to feel fullness. I didn't eat all the bun - (typical white bread bun).... had a some fries, one onion ring, a few tortilla chips. It was delicious. No guilt - but, still not all comfortable with it.

Southern Maven - thanks for the link to the video. It was good.

That's all for now. Thanks.

CindySunshine 01-27-2014 07:44 AM

Excellent Beverley the right way to do it for sure. Now to string those experiences together and feel how great that will be.

I had a similar experience a few night ago where I have been really craving pizza and I was tempted to get the simple broiled fish which I really love but I have been eating constantly and keeping pizza on the back burner and I ordered pizza, had two fabulous slices, shared two more with the table, and brought the other 4 home. If they get eaten here so be it and if they don't that's ok too.

My biggest problem is PATIENCE. I know for sure if I keep doing this the rest of my life I will eventually be in a good place but right now I'd like to lose some weight and get my clothes fitting. A big negative trigger for me is going shopping and trying things on that just don't fit or look the way I want them to and then I go home and eat potato chips. So I am working on that. The easiest is to simply not go shopping but that doesn't address the issue.

Incidentally I figured out the video is not available on iPad platform or my android phone which are my only two options to connect at the moment at least I understand why I'm blocked.

SouthernMaven 01-27-2014 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by CindySunshine (Post 4929342)
My biggest problem is PATIENCE. I know for sure if I keep doing this the rest of my life I will eventually be in a good place but right now I'd like to lose some weight and get my clothes fitting. A big negative trigger for me is going shopping and trying things on that just don't fit or look the way I want them to and then I go home and eat potato chips. So I am working on that. The easiest is to simply not go shopping but that doesn't address the issue.

I know that feeling, Cindy. But I actually went and bought a bunch of new clothes the other day because I needed them soooo badly, and I was not only surprised at how much better it made me feel but also that even at this weight I was able to find really flattering clothes. They fit well and I was able to find clothes that minimize my bad areas, so I feel good when I wear them out.

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Incidentally I figured out the video is not available on iPad platform or my android phone which are my only two options to connect at the moment at least I understand why I'm blocked.
That makes sense. Mystery solved. :)

I want to post this video to every doggone thread in this forum. But that would probably get me banned. :( (and I wouldn't blame the moderators if they did)

I get sooo frustrated reading the "Introductions" thread. Over, and over, and over, and over again people come back saying "Here I am again" and relating their tales of woe about losing lots of weight only to gain it back - sometimes more than once. Either that, or that they've tried to diet and just can't get it to work, period. I want to direct every one of them to this thread, but I know I can't.

I see people posting here that have been here 10 years or longer and STILL haven't lost the weight (or have lost it and regained it). As we all know, that is the NORM and not the exception. The exception are the long-term maintainers, and they are very, very rare.

pattygirl63 01-27-2014 12:22 PM

Beverlyjoy Thanks for sharing. That is what IE is all about... eating what you want and not what you think you should eat. I applaud you for making the IE choice rather than the "dieter" choice. My Mama used to say that if you don't eat what you really want then you will end up eating loads of other foods you don't want because you never get satisfied until you eat what you really want.

As I said, I'm using WW Pts + to learn portion control, but I didn't realize that I was falling into a "diet" mindset until I read your post Beverly. Today is DH and my anniversary. We are going out to eat and I had already made my plans for what I'm going to eat today, but I had planned on what I thought I should eat and not on what I want to eat. After reading your post, I will definitely eat what I really want. After all, this is a celebration of 11 yrs with my sweetheart. So thanks again for sharing.

You know I will have to watch to be sure that WW doesn't change what I've gained as an Intuitive Eater. I may have to switch to Simply Filling Plan instead of using the Points Plus Plan since it fits into IE better. Will have to see how that goes or maybe by the time my 3 month membership is over, I might not have to use it at all.

Maven Are the other "stop dieting" youtube info helpful? I hadn't thought of checking out youtube. Thanks for sharing.

SouthernMaven 01-27-2014 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by pattygirl63 (Post 4929622)
Beverlyjoy

Maven Are the other "stop dieting" youtube info helpful? I hadn't thought of checking out youtube. Thanks for sharing.

I had actually seen that video elsewhere but wanted to find the link to share it, so I googled its title on YouTube and that's how I found it there. I did watch a few of the others that came up (wow! lots of people on the IE bandwagon out there, all with their own particular take in it) and for the most part I didn't get anything new out of them. I just liked that one because I think it makes people really think about why diets don't work & is probably particularly effective for long-term dieters who have just had their fill of it.

I found it particularly interesting that it said women stop dieting at the average age of 64. I stopped at 61, and I'm not even a lifetime dieter, having been thin for a large portion of my adult life.

pattygirl63 01-27-2014 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthernMaven (Post 4929636)
I found it particularly interesting that it said women stop dieting at the average age of 64. I stopped at 61, and I'm not even a lifetime dieter, having been thin for a large portion of my adult life.

I find that really interesting since I'm 70. I will definitely be reading more on it. You know The Daniel Plan that I've been reading by Rick Warren and Drs. Hyman and Amen and it is based mostly on eating healthy with a "plate" diagram with no calorie counting etc. Just eat until you are satisfied. I feel that I will eventually get more comfortable with that way of eating again as that is the way I ate when I was young and every time I have been thin. Thanks for sharing.

pattygirl63 01-27-2014 10:11 PM

Went to eat at KFC. Had the crispy dark meat plate with green beans and mashed potatoes with gravy. DH and I told the lady I didn't want the roll, but she put it on the plate any way, but neither one of us wanted it so we threw it out. Totally enjoyed it and no guilt.

Went shopping and got healthy foods that I will enjoy eating without any guilt. Letting IE be my guide as I do this and I think it will become a habit.

SouthernMaven 01-27-2014 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pattygirl63 (Post 4930035)
Went to eat at KFC. Had the crispy dark meat plate with green beans and mashed potatoes with gravy. DH and I told the lady I didn't want the roll, but she put it on the plate any way, but neither one of us wanted it so we threw it out. Totally enjoyed it and no guilt.

Went shopping and got healthy foods that I will enjoy eating without any guilt. Letting IE be my guide as I do this and I think it will become a habit.

Sounds great, Trish! Glad you enjoyed that meal - that's what IE is all about. No restrictions other than you eat ONLY when hungry. That seems reasonable, right? ;-)

SouthernMaven 01-27-2014 11:13 PM

A sneak preview of the February 3, 2014 issue of Time Magazine:

http://content.time.com/time/magazin...163560,00.html

Looks very interesting....

CindySunshine 01-28-2014 05:11 AM

VERY interesting on the Time cover, Maven. I read some place they are going to start teaching kids mindfulness in school I wonder if they could get 16 year olds to see the light with a life ahead of them. I sure agree that something has to give I said that 35 years ago when I was raising kids, both working busy careers that it just didn't seem like a sustainable way for humans to live but it has gotten worse not better.

Patty glad you ENJOYED your KFC! I think the tendency would have been what the heck I'm eating here anyway so the plate plus the biscuit and do they have dessert, too? Good job. I know it's essential to keep feeding real hunger to make it all work and not cling to the diet stuff and stopping at some WW point or calorie limit. I have still been tracking what I eat to get out of the snacking habit but I plan to stop that entirely in a couple weeks and use internal hunger only- I did it that way for months and it works of course. So I am not there yet at all.....

I'm taking advantage of the newfound hours in my retired day exploring a bunch of fitness classes. I am doing yoga which is meditative and sure fits into mindfulness the hippies had it right in the 60s. And for me walking on the beach is soulful and mindful I listen to the surf watch the sun glint off the water appreciate the crunch of the sand. Makes me feel so good. It is such a pleasure to have these long days after the years of frantic busyness. Eating intuitively is so easy in this setting. But life never stays non stressful for too long, need to set the healthy patterns and prep to handle the challenges constructively.


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