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Old 11-21-2012, 11:36 AM   #1
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Default Are food additives addictive?

Has anyone else found that eating processed food of any sort addictive? or is it just me?

When I can prepare a meal from scratch I can eat that and not feel the need to pig out all evening, in fact after a home prepared meal, food is the furthest thing from my mind, when I'm in a rush or not up to preparing a meal and rely on a ready meal or other processed food then I have this overwhelming need to stuff myself which just leads to more eating as it's usually bought cake, chocolate, crisps and similar.

For me anyway preparing food from scratch so they don't have any artificial additives of any sort is the easiest way to lose weight.

Please someone tell me I'm not weird
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Old 11-21-2012, 12:13 PM   #2
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The only additives I've found addictive are those that can be put into homemade food as well, though often homemade food has a less addictive ratio of these additives.

The additives I mean are fat, salt and sugar.

After reading the book "The End of Overeating," it really hit home to me that the most addictive foods had all three ingredients - and how addictive a food was depended on those three elements, not who made them.

It is true that processed foods are designed to be "addictive," but no one (including the food companies) think if it this way. The word we use instead of addictive is "yummy."

Food companies (as well as sweet cookie-baking grandmas and anyone who makes food for others) want to make their food taste good - so good that it leaves people wanting more, and more and more. So people say "this is the best thing I've ever eaten (or at least this is better than anything else like it).

Food companies tend to be better at this "must eat more" factor than most (but not all) home cooks, but I think don't think it's "conspiracy" so much as a knowledge of human nature "If we want people to want this, we need to make it really, really good."

And billions of years of evolution has bred into the omnivore and herbivore (and perhaps even many carnivores) that a food that is rich in salt, fat, and sugar is a nutritional "goldmine" (because in the natural world it is - try to think of a natural food that contains all three nutrients, salt, fat, and carbohydrates). So our instincts say "eat as much of this as you can, because you're not going to find something so awesome again."

In the natural world calories are rather hard to come by, a food that combines these three nutrients (two macros and a mineral) would be a boon to survival not a detriment. And stress (such as even the stress of repeated dieting) actually makes animals (and humans) more prone to overeating these foods (for several reasons. This food combination actually releases stress-relieving endorphins, and stress itself actually burns calories that wild critters cannot spare...

Processed foods should be avoided for so many reasons, and "addictiveness" is one of them - but you need to know why they're so addictive, so that you don't find yourself just making your own "drug" at home.

Some foods (I find) are actually MORE addictive in their home-made forms (mostly because the food companies haven't been able to duplicate the addictive-yumminess factor of the homemade).

Baked goods in general, but brownies specifically. I've never had a mass-produced brownie that inspired me to eat the whole box in a day. Homemade brownies (especially while still warm) those are crack to me (and really about the only "dessert" sweet I have no control over). They have to have a crispy top, chewy edges, and a gooey center. The flavor and texture have to be "just perfect" for me to want more and more - and assembly-line brownies just aren't that perfect storm of flavor and texture.

I highly recommend "The End of Overeating" because it really explains how and why mass-produced AND some homemade foods can be addictive.

It helped me realize that the salty/sweet/creamy/fatty/crunchy/chewy texture and flavor profile was the addictive element, and recreating the product at home actually made the situation WORSE (because I can make a brownie better at home than Hostess can).

It didn't help me to stop buying from my drug dealer only to build my own meth lab at home.

I can "cheat the dealer" to some degree, and still get some of the "high" of the flavor combo, by eliminating one element of the trio. I usually eliminate fat, because it's the element with the most calories. To combine sweet and salt for example, I'll sprinkle apple slices with just a tiny amount of sea salt.

The sweet/salty flavor combined with the crunch (I love super crisp apples for this) is super yummy without inspiring the "need more, need more, need more" instinct kicking in.
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Old 11-21-2012, 12:16 PM   #3
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Processed foods containing additives are designed to be appealing and taste good to people. The food companies wouldn't get any repeat customers if the processed foods weren't appealing! I think that's why we want to eat more of them. To make them appealing, they often have high sugar, salt and fat which are known to trigger more consumption.

There are literally thousands of different chemicals and natural additives that are allowed to be used in food processing. I think it would be awfully hard to figure out which ones might be habit forming and likely none of them really are addictive in the medical sense.
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Old 11-22-2012, 05:28 AM   #4
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Thank you for your replies

annieway That is truly scary the amount of additives and chemicals that may be added to our food, it can't all be good for us

kaplods Wow thank you for your reply it all makes so much sense and would definitely explain why the home made Victoria sandwich I made last week didn't last very long, it really was to delicious to leave alone

It's certainly made me think about different foods when you call them 'drugs'

I will go and see if I can find 'The End of Overeating' it sounds like very interesting reading!

I've never had apples sprinkled with salt before but I'll give it a go

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Old 11-22-2012, 08:12 AM   #5
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I definitely find certain processed foods very "more-ish". I'm less likely to do that with homemade. Except white sauce. OY.

Not counting sweets here. Sweets are in a different category for me. Almost always addictive no matter what kind. Except pop.

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