"sigh" what is happening to the world? I have a "friend" who happens to have a teenage son. A little background. She was in unhappy marriage got a divorce. We don't talk much now cuz everytime I talk to her she ends up getting on her cell to reply to the newest man on facebook she "met". So I figured if my friendship meant that much to her then why bother with her. Plus that is just RUDE. So at lunch today she goes into the whole story how she tells her son "bro's before ho's". And a story about how he whistled at some girl he thought looked good but when he saw her face said oops my bad. And she(the mom) was laughing at the whole thing!!!! WHAT!!!!
I don't even know why I am letting this bother me but felt the need to get it out of my system so I can move on with my night.
It like she is training him to be like his father who happens to the person she divorced cuz he was a shallow jerk.

I have a real issue with parents teaching their kids it's ok, even desirable to be rude. I hate that. It's our job to lift our children up and make them the best they can be, not to make them crude and hateful.

i agree i'd be mad too- not cool. not cool at all.

Most children turn out to be their parents by fault. Some grow up out of it realizing they don't want to be anything like how their parents were and some follow in the exact same footsteps. You're "friend" sounds like a classic case mother who doesn't give a rats *** about anyone but herself and allows her teenager to do whatever he damn well pleases, because she doesn't want to take control and look like the bad guy. (I have an aunt like that, who allows her son to be a bum, do drugs in her house and drinks all the time and all she can say is I'm proud of you because she doesn't believe it's her job to step in and be a parent.) As for the cell phone call right there I'd drop her as a friend. BIGGEST pet peeve of mine is getting on your phone or texting other people while you are with me. If you're going to do that I'm going to finish my meal and call it a day and go on to better things.

I second this.

I have a BIG issue with manners, I mean big.
When I was a kid, there was no option to - we had manners or we didn't go out in public. We used please, thank you, were respectful of people around us, or we weren't allowed out. Period.
I am still in shock when I take my son out to get groceries or what not and I see kids running around, screaming, being rude to adults, pushing or shoving and just general mahem while the parents seem to turn their cheek to it.

Im darn proud of the fact that my 2 year old KNOWS you say please, thank you and 'scuses' when talking to other people.
I am in no way a perfect parent and am fully aware I will make mistakes, but my child will grow up being respectful - that is not an option.

Sorry to hi-jack the thread, just a huge pet peeve of mine.

It would bother me too, and sadly, I find this rude attitude to be the norm amongst teenagers the last couple years. I know there are many, many wonderful parents, but I'm telling you, there is a shift the last couple of years in student behavior and attitude that I have never seen.

I have taught high school for fifteen years (and, no, I don't work in an inner city school), and for the first time ever, I'm considering leaving education. It has gotten bad, let me tell you. Students look at me like I have a third eyeball if I ask to restate or re-ask something using please/thank you. I know there are many wonderful parents raising their children with morals, manners, respect, and compassion for others, but far too many are either teaching the opposite or not teaching them anything at all. Kids raising themselves is usually a recipe for disaster -- they need someone to teach them right from wrong, they need to learn that you don't always get your way or get everything you want, they need to learn that helping others has intrinsic rewards.

I have heard that "bro's before ho's" thing many times before, and it makes me sick. The disrespect toward females from male students is FRIGHTENING.

For the first time ever, I have a class this year that I seriously dislike, and I am patient and understanding to a fault. I always find their redeeming qualities, so why do I dislike them? They are not only rude and disrespectful to me and to each other, they are plain mean. Our school system had to implement a "civility policy" this year which lays out steps to deal with rude, mean parents - so, yes, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. It begins in the home.

I apologize also for sharing my own personal vent, but to the OP - I think I would have to speak my mind to this "friend" or simply cut her out of your life (you probably won't change her).

This shift in attitudes amongst teens is disheartening to say the least. I don't know what kids raised this way expect their futures to be like because who wants to hire someone with such a selfish, "you can't tell me what to do" attitude?

BTW, I am home from work today taking a much needed mental health day - only my second day off all year. I am terrified to see the sub report when I return tomorrow!

Yay - good for you! You are absolutely right that MANY of the ill-mannered children and teens have never had consequences for anything. I have sat in many parent/teacher/student conferences where the student YELLS at their parent, and the parent lets them! Unbelievable.

My 13 yr old has his first "girlfriend" and we talk constantly about how he should treat her with respect.

I just took my 11yr old daughter's facebook away for calling someone else a b*!ch on it. (it has been 1 month and it will be at least another month before she gets it back if we decide to at all)

I don't get it. I would never let my children act like that. I do the best I can to teach them the right things and pray they take it with them when they leave the house. I would be so embarrassed if my son said something like that!

I've been in public education for nearly twenty years, and for most of that, I've had a hard time understanding why parents would want to home school their children when there are so many amazing educational opportunities in a good public school system (which I've always felt I was a part of).

I understand it now.

A couple weeks ago I heard a comment in the passing herd of kids in the halls that a male student made to a female (they looked to be freshmen, and I knew neither of them) that made me come unhinged inside. I cannot repeat it here, but he was telling her that he betted she liked it ___ ____ ____. The girl laughed, but she must have felt beyond degraded. I reported it to the nearest hall monitor, but I doubt anything was done. It left me feeling violated the rest of the day -- I cannot imagine how the young lady felt.