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so im watching this 2 hour special on fox. what do you guys think about this? this woman comes off extremely irresponsible. she doesnt seem unintelligent, but she is a bit dim about raising 14 children. i feel somewhat bad for these kids.

I refuse to watch or read anything with her in it.

I just don't understand her. She accepts donations like diapers and clothing, but then turns around and donates them to churches or other charities. People need to ignore her, it's apparent that she just loves being in the media spotlight.

I saw a special on TLC or something about families with atleast 12 children and they have these annual meetings...kinda like networking...Im not a very judgmental person so I dont judge her.....I think the only reason people have sucha problem with her is because hows shes portrayed in the media...My husbands grandmother had 12 kids! Yes 12 and no one boycotted her home....She has 14 kids so what! I dont get why Americans are always so preoccupied with others lives.....Feeding the media and the fact that majority of the time they ALWAYS have something negative to say...

I doubt that her having 14 kids has showed up on our pay checks.....I just think we should be more about helping her and not discouraging her...And yes she is educated...a bachelors or masters in psychology...Shes very intelligent..maybe her parents sucked! And she felt like having kids was the only way she could be loved...Look at if from a EMPATHETIC point of view...and not a SYMPATHETIC or judgmental point of view....

It's not that she's being criticized because she has 14 kids, it's because they were all conceived with fertility treatments, she's single, and she's unemployed. If you're unemployed and on disability, you should not have 14 kids, because kids are expensive (and if you can't work, you can't support them), and pay for said fertility treatments with your disability checks. Pregnancy is disabling in and of itself.

it's more people being concerned about the welfare of her children (two of which have autism). It is extremely irresponsible to have that many children if you are single and unemployed. And it also brings into question medical ethics and the nature of IVF, and how much is too much.

you had to see it to believe it.Wow.I would have whooped them kids like its noones business.ridiculous.Them kids dont have a chance with that kind of parenting.

it's a comedy right?

Not judging her for having 14 kids.I dont think she could handle parenting 1.Those kids were OUT OF CONTROL.And I am not talking about the infants.Masters degree?Just goes to show that does not equal intelligence.Seriously, watch this show before commenting.You will probably change your opinion.

EZ-It was definately a comedy.A very sad, tragic, comedy.Oxymoron?Or just Moron?lol.

I get what your saying and she does crave attention....BUT...I just think people should dislike someone they only know from TV....I hope she does well...She always took care of her other kids....with lots of love...Yes she went to extremes to get more attention but I think we should just observe because the kids are already here....Theres nothing you can do...

I agree.The kids are here....swearing, smacking her and other, misbehaving,mouthy...I can not believe she would allow that to even be televised.I was embarrassed for her.She is so out of touch with reality.Dr. Phil hit the nail on the head with her.

If your trying to comment on my take...I know degree doesnt mean intelligence...Well aware of that...And my "opinion" is that its her life...Im watching it right now...She does have it hard...why cant we be empathetic..I look at things from more than just an angry point of view...The kids were out of control but so are my 3 neices! They kick me and hit me and pull my hair...Please tell me this isnt the first time you have seen an out of control child?

I made a bad sad joke....I am just 2 hours from her...we saw it happening on the local news when she had the babies, while working out of town....the story is old for me.

No.I also have a masters in nursing(as do you Right?)I have done pleanty of clinical work with mental health adolescents.

And I also have 3 teenage boys.

The kids at my daughters school do the same thing...I am going to take them out of the school...but my point is this isnt at all uncomon...I saw this lady in the store and her son was kicking the shi#$ out of her! All she said was "stop that brad!"....yea ok! He would have gotten smacked! I hope she gets better and finds a way to handle them...For their sake...Maybe hire a nanny? or 3?

as do I? Is that supposed to be insulting or literal?...No not a masters yet...going for it now...I have a degree in psych though...I understand alot of it...Im just saying stop being so critical.....Look at her...shes going through some serious crap! She did it to herself but she is still human....And we can make some strange mistakes...

I agree with you.Unfortunately what I have seen in my profession tells me that the odds are not good for these children.She appears to not be stable mentally and that is very sad.

ok you got my interest...I turned it on...

so she didn't have work on those lips....right....

she doesn't want attention....right....

2 minutes in and changing the channel....

EZ-staytuned for the 2 year old screaming "*****".It gets better.......

I know...I see that she is going to have her work cut out for her....Im sure her kids may or may not have a hard life...My husbands aunts and uncles are like a cult! VERY and strangely close but for the most part fine...His grandfather was an abusive alcoholic...I hope for the best for her...thats all I have to say....

I was just referring to your previous post about going to school.No offence.My point is, you should understand what is required to receive a masters in nursing.I was trying to explain to you that I am not pointing fingers at her for no good reason.I have seen the aftermath of this type of parenting.I DO hope she gets help, soon.But it is really had to help someone that does not think she has a problem.

She changed her whole appearance...that was apparent after the Dr. Phil show....She looked TOTALLY different...She craves attention as I said earlier...Maybe child hood trauma maybe not....She is the product of a fallen and corrupt society...Her case is extreme....but she needs help...

And like I said, having 14 children is not her problem.I have a friend with 9.Its not a number issue at all with me.But if you watched the show you would see how totally out of control she is.I hope someone intervenes after seeing the 2 hour special.

HEY K....just a quick one here...my response was in NO WAY directed at you...it was at her when she said nothing to her lips....riiiiight and doesn't want attention....riiiiight

I know the work it takes...Im going for it now! And going nutts! CRNA is my major...I have 4 kids...8, 6, 2, and 1 year.....Its expensive and time consuming....But I still maintain my 3.9....I just like to try and see outside of disappointment....Maybe because I have been judged so much...I was 16 and had a baby and another at 18 followed by 2 more...I have been raped and molested and abused as a child..It makes me want to help people...I cant help it...Im hold the weight of the world on my shoulders...

did her kid just call her the b word....goodness

I will now call you SUPER K! :hug:

Yes they should intervene but not take them away...Maybe provide some type of 24 hour assistance....TO get them in line...My husbands grandmother did well with her 12 and she had only her husbands income...He drank alot...and he was abusive to her...

your making me laugh...you are silly....thanks though...

I see that all the time...Im glad thats th eone thing my babies dont do...I would be so hurt...Their noisy and bratty but they try to be good...

I am glad I make you laugh


but

SUPER K is with the same respect I give my children for their efforts in school! One a high school teacher and one a scientist...both graduated college magna cum laude with honors...so SUPER K it is!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

Kiahna-I do understand.i really do!!I also went in to nursing to help people.What I have learned is that I cant fix everyone.Trust me, I tried many times when i first started my career.I have seen horrible situations, sad situations.Yes, people choose their own lifestyle.Its just that I have seen many children with virtually no chance of a normal life because of their lack of parenting.That is very frustrating.Hopefully someone will help these children....which would only put a dent in the mass numbers of misguided parents out there.No one is perfect.I understand that.And you....should be pround of yourself.You are a success story.Take care of you though.Major burnout in this profession!!!

You should listen to what her own parents have said about her.

It's not a simple matter of going to extremes to get attention, she brought 14 lives into the world. You don't think that's a big deal or any cause to be concerned?

She apparently does have like 6 24-hour nurses. She has a whole team of them.

I am very proud...I had not so good parents and I vowed to be different...Lack of parenting is a BIG thing in America...Most americans dont think they can change their kids or they think no matter what they do they cant change inevitable outcomes...Parents under estimate the power they have over their kids....Its like people think they MUST have kids...no one has to have kids....

no because my husband has 12 aunts and uncles...didnt you read that? Her mental state is the ONLY concern I have...My husbands family were those christians who dont believe in birth control and she had 12 kids...They are fine..All college grads and ALL have jobs and familes of thier own..They love eachother so much...they just dont trust anyone else...sucks for me...

I see...and we are looking from the outside...the media portrays everyone in a negative light....Lets just hope she does her best...LIke the shows on TLC where they have 18 kids! Whats the difference? They are married? Thats it....The only reason she is so in the media is because she had 8 at one time...

Did not watch - refuse to give her any attention at all. Feel sorry for the kids, but she's nuts.

ok i didnt mean to start an argument. i also agree that number of children is not relevant.

as a mom, i feel like its my job to give my son the best possible opportunities in life. i dont think she is in a position, with 14 children, no husband, and no job, to provide her children with all the opportunities they deserve. aside from that, she is clearly attention starved (even though she CONSTANTLY complains about how much she hates it) and is not up to the task of watching the 6 children she already had. they run around hitting each other, screaming and cursing.

during the special even she was talking about how she regrets having them. her parents also think she is irresponsible. CPS was called twice during that special, and the police were called 2 or 3 times.

bottom line, it takes a one in a million woman to deal with this many children, and i dont think she is one.

Woah. Do not blame this woman's craziness on society. That is a cop-out. She is not the only woman on earth to suffer childhood trauma (if she did, I don't know her backstory).

Nurses wise: She has 5 during the day and 4 in the evening.

You talk about your husbands family having 12 kids.....this case is different because 8 of them were born at once. She's unemployed. She's single. She doesn't parent her kids.

The show on TLC (with 18 kids) is different because:
The parents work, and they have real estate that they rent out for extra income. They take care of their kids and actually educate them and control their poor behavior. They both have big families, true, but I think it's two entirely different scenarios.