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Oh yes i agree. it wasnt weight loss as in fat loss. it was matter and water. I only get them once every 4 weeks and for every report that says they arent good theres 2 that say it is.
Remember when Acupuncture and chirproctory came about the "medical community" to this day oppose.
and what you view coming out isnt normal. Ive done a lot of studying on this and spoken to a lot of specialists. Unless you go to the bathroom after EVERY meal the medical assoc. says you should have a bowel movemebt "3-4 times a day". Well i was lucky for 1 in 2 days.
Your colon has pockets where un-digestive food gets stuck. Its not for everyone. just like dieting isnt for everyone. I suffered from Candida which is excess yeast etc. I found this really helped me a lot.
To make it perfectly clear, I work in the endoscopy suite often in our local hospital, I am a surgical technologist, I have seen thousands of colons, and I have never seen "undigested food stuck in those pockets"... I do believe the pockets you are referring to are diverticulosis, a condition occurring in many of today's Western culture diet, we here in the States call it the "meat and potatoes diet". These pockets fill with stool, same thing that comes out... no peanuts, no popcorn, no nothing but, stool... undigested food, sounds to me more like an undiagnosed food absorption problem, as far as defecating more than once per day, I don't know a dr in their right mind who would say that you need to go that often, many people don't go as often as that, some don't even go for more than a week or more, but, here is the thing, that is NORMAL for them! Please be very careful with the colonic cleansing, to throw off your electrolyte balance is just asking for trouble, I am not an expert on what can happen then, but, I can factually state what is inside a colon, first hand experience you know... Please talk to a REAL dr before trying anything like colon cleansing, it actually CAN be harmful for you! Ok, once again, off my soapbox, hopefully, this information at least makes some people think twice before jumping on the colon cleansing bandwagon...
I have had a colonic/colon cleanse (2to be exact). The Dr. I went to gave me a diet to follow to help keep my colon clean and help me remain regular. I decided this was a good option for me because like many people I was suffering from constipation and had tried laxatives and colon cleansing supplememts from nutrition stores with no change. The colonic changed all that and I lost 10 pounds. I don't know if this helps but I can sayit worked for me and I have not had any health related problems from it.
Not that I've done the things mentioned in these posts but LOL...using the bathroom every other day..dang I should be so lucky. I go weekly. It really hurts if I go beyond that. Some "better" weeks I go a few extra times with a few pebbles. My 3 year old out poops me any day. I know that's gross..but thta's my life for the last 7 years. I'm currently talking to a doc about it.
I used to go every few days and that is how I liked it. I preferred that over every day. Now I go minimum once a day, quite often twice a day and sometimes even more than that. As soon as I eat something first thing in the morning, I have to go. Then usually a little later in the day, I'll need to go again and sometimes before bed, I'll need to go yet once more.
All I did was change my diet and gradually my body changed. I eat lots of whole foods and very few processed foods. Sometimes I'll take psyllium husk powder but that isn't an every day event and usually it isn't even a full serving.
A lot of things have to do with our habits. Our body isn't supposed to need "help" to make us go to the bathroom or else we'd really be in trouble as a species. What is our problem is our diet.
Sorry for this lengthy post ladies, but I'm dragging out MY soap box.
The fact that we aren't SUPPOSED to need any help going to the bathroom, and that God made our bodies efficient is absolutely correct.
That being said-Adam and Eve didn't eat quarter pounders with cheese, or lean cuisines, or anything else that is prepackaged, or full of preservatives and a myriad of other chemical concoctions. Heck-even our meat supplies are full of hormones and chemicals! I'm sure that there is a very small group of people in American society that eat only natural, organic, and unprocessed foods, but the rest of us MAY end up with problems due to what we have eaten for our entire lives-even if these things are considered healthy.
The American Medical Association defines chronic constipation as evacuating the bowels 3 times per week or less, and that evacuating twice per day is normal-so no offense luckyducky, but if you don't know any doctors that would "in their right mind" say that we should go that often, then apparently you have yet to ask them-and you shouldn't tell people with concerns about their digestive health that it is normal to go more than a week without a bowel movement-that can actually be dangerous. I'm sure your words of warning were well intended, but stating (twice) for effect that you work in the medical profession, and then advising incorrectly hit a nerve with me. A surgical assistant has no more training in digestive health than a dental hygenist. And the diverticulosis you talk about? You yourself say that it is a condition common to our western "meat and potatos" diet, hello, that's us! I'm sure most people do only have normal fecal material impacted along the colon-you say that like it's not a big deal. That alone can have an ill effect on our health, because it blocks nutrient absorption.
While I agree that a colonic or colon cleansing products could be dangerous for people who do not need them, I also think that the longer all of these impure things stay in our bodies, the more harmful they can be. Yes, if it is done unnecessarily, a colonic COULD upset the delicate balance of bacteria in the body. Not to be too crude here, but so can douching-and Summer's Eve isn't considered evil! And yes, there is a risk of infection from the chance that the administering equipment may not be sterile-but I'm sure that it's quite a lot less than the risk of getting a tattoo or an ear piercing-and quite frankly, there have been PLENTY of cases of that happening, yet we think nothing of it. The only factual evidence I have been able to find that colonics, NOT colon cleanses, can be truly harmful is if they are used too often, and the user does not replace the electrolytes lost in the process. There have in fact been a few rare cases of death in very elderly people for this reason.
Below is a link to a family medicine site stating the reasons for and benefits of colon cleansing, that is in no way affiliated with any product or company. http://www.healthatoz.com/healthatoz...irrigation.jsp
Actually, many doctors do recommend a colonic in certain cases, and often it is considered to be an integral part of cancer treatment. In fact-a colonic is very similiar to an enema-the only difference is the amount of water used-and many doctors REQUIRE the use of an enema before childbirth. The risk of infection and/or tearing from the apparatus used is the same as with a colonic.
On that note, isn't the equipment used to perform an endoscopy of the digestive tract even more invasive than that, and does it not carry the same risk of tearing or infection? Don't get me wrong-I'm not foolish enough to believe that equipment in a hospital (or the abilities of an actual physician) isn't much more safe than going to a spa. My point is that these things CAN occur anywhere, and people HAVE gotten infections from hospitals, and complications from procedures generally deemed to be safe.
There is a risk associated with any medical procedure or medication out there. The decision we all make anytime we have surgery, take a pill, or even have an x-ray is whether the possible benefits outweight the possible risks.
It's true that we are putting a lot of things in our bodies that were not on the planet when our bodies were designed. Big macs, canned chili, and even salad dressings with several inches of unpronounceable ingredient lists may well be doing harm to our bodies in many ways. But the solution is not to fall prey to potential colon cleansing scams that are not beneficial anyway. The solution is to just quit putting the crap in our mouths, eat healthier, drink more water, and get plenty of exercise. Then what comes out should be as healthy as what went in.
I don't think anyone disputes that this sort of treatment may be necessary as advised by a physician for specific uses. The problem, as I see it, is that there is a whole industry out there that is taking advantage of the average persons lack of knowledge in this area, overwhelming them with false information and scare tactics, in order to sell a product/service that is probably unnecessary in almost every case. It should be up to our physicians whether or not we need something like this. Not the sales lady at the local health barn.
I would agree in that we should focus on improving our health through diet, exercise and the proper fluids rather than using products to cope with our poor habits.
Rebeleagle, Not to get off topic but since you mentioned douching and comparing it to a colonic. Doctors advise AGAINST douching as well as every health website I've seen. It kills bacteria and killing the healthy bacteria can actually cause infections and other issues. The same for colonics, it can rid your colon of healthy bacteria which our colons need.
I hope my posts weren't misinterpreted-maybe they are just too long to get my point across, here
I don't think that douches are necessary or not possibly harmful to some people-but they are found in any drug or general store, people have been using them in some form for hundreds of years, and no one is out there with a picket sign in protest of them, or claiming that they are a "scam out to get your money". Any commercial selling anything (including this) is made to make you feel that you NEED that product, and that doesn't necessarily make it some evil entity. I actually stated that douching CAN BE harmful-I'm not promoting it, just comparing it. Maybe that got lost somehow.
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Yes, if it is done unnecessarily, a colonic COULD upset the delicate balance of bacteria in the body. Not to be too crude here, but so can douching-and Summer's Eve isn't considered evil!
I agree that the majority of the population does not need any kind of help in this department, and that dietary correction would most likely be the best route to go.
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Most people dont need a colon cleanse product, a colonic, or anything more than dietary components. If you eliminate normally, why would you? But anyone who's had the problem I have knows that desperate causes call for desperate measures....
I ALSO agree that anyone with a serious enough problem to consider trying a colon cleanse or colonic should try dietary correction (i.e. stop putting the "crap" into our mouths, or something as simple as fiber), AND consult their physician for advise. I'm not advocating anyone running out to the nearest health barn for medical attention, or even buying a product of any kind, or getting a colonic.
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In a normal person with a healthy digestive tract, colon cleansing would be a totally unnecessary waste of money, and possibly even unhealthy. But chronic constipation is also extremely unhealthy! Anyone to whom this problem is new should consult their doctor, try to identify the cause of it, and try to use the suggestions in the previous posts about modifying their diet to correct it.
I feel so strongly about this because it has been a serious problem for me, and many other people, and I hate to see this being dismissed so nonchalantly. These threads should not be one sided, and every one like this that comes up seems to be shushed away quickly with criticism. Alot of people come here for information, and reviews of products/experiences before they try, and whether that be bad news, good news, or both-I thought that was what this particular forum was intended for. I'm just trying to show the other side of this, and it isn't all a dangerous, scam based, unnecessary capitalist fraud. We are all entitled to our own opinions, and I know that many don't share my views on natural medicine. I personally do not wish to be on any long term medication (with known side effects) for anything if I don't have to, or have surgery, or both. People have been using natural medicine forever-many doctors today are trained in holistics because it can be a useful alternative.
Case in point-
When my daughter had chronic ear infections, the doctors' first response was always antibiotics. The problem is, those caused more problems, like yeast infections and yellow teeth. A doctor trained in holistics gave me the option of a natural remedy, she never had to take antibiotics for that again, and soon outgrew the problem. Some of you (and even some doctors) may not agree with what I did, or that it was risky or even stupid not to opt for our "modern technology", but it worked, she avoided surgery, and I am thankful that I had that information and opportunity available to me, and that I wasn't only given one opinion and scared away from everything else.
I know you were comparing douching to colonics but you were comparing something that is harmful and doctors advise against to prove your point about something you believe isn't harmful (flushing healthy bacteria). That is why I mentioned it.
Basically, just because something is sold and marketed doesn't mean it isn't harmful. People are out to make money and they will do whatever possible to make it. If they can try to make people believe they are doing something "healthy" then all the better. It is kind of like people used to believe ingesting mercury was beneficial until they found out that it was very deadly.
I used to get very constipated but do not like to use anything that assists in my bowel movements. Here is my low cost, healthy cure for constipation.
1 day a week make a full pound of dry beans (black, black eye pea, pinto, garbanzo, etc.) they cost about a dollar, all you do is soak them, then cook them in water w/ some seasonings (and I add onion & garlic to EVERYTHING) for a couple hours or leave them in a crock pot.
Then eat 1 cup every day as a snack or with rice and a salad for dinner.
You've got a filling snack, that is very cheap, high in protein and will keep you very regular.
Also, soy products are really good about getting things moving along, but you have to start small and work up to large servings or you will get severe cramps.
I'm post lap sigmoid surgery 2 years ago chronic constipation and lack of fiber along with side effects of meds caused me to have 7 feet of my intestinal track removed (diverticulitis) scary at most you must go regularly if not please do concern don't just say oh well maybe I'll go tomorrow... Bad choice. I was even tattooed for a baggy how scary is that. By baggy I mean the one that you go potty into then trow away and put new one big hole on stomach. I now know how dangerous it is not to listen to body always drink plenty of water ,fiber, and exercise.
do be afraid.
