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Old 04-13-2021, 01:44 AM   #136  
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I can't sleep so now I'm up at 1:30 reading. We have to go at 8 AM to pick up our taxes so I will really be dragging but maybe I will sneak in a nap.

I am really struggling with my eating. Or should I say my over eating. Its all about once I eat I want to continue eating. We went to Texas Roadhouse and I found that they now have salmon salad. A nice bed of greens topped with grilled salmon. Very tasty. But then I had to ruin it by eating 2 rolls and a piece of DHs baked potato. Then I came home and ate chocolate covered peanuts. My shut off valve is broken. I go along fine for a while thinking I'm getting this under control then WHAM! I have a day like today. I haven't eaten since 4:30 today but I still feel full. I am so much better off if I don't eat at all.

DH thought he would be ok eating that baked potato but he went to bed and his shoulders are hurting. I don't know why this would start after 78 years of eating potatoes. He read online that in recent years they are spraying potatoes with something to kill the potato bugs and its toxic to people. Apparently it doesn't effect me except for slight pain I got that one time. Poor guy. I feel bad for him. There aren't many foods he likes but he loves potatoes.
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HI friends, 161 this am post fast. Today is an eating day. I got a pot roast out of the freezer last night. We can either have pot roast or something else to make with a small blade roast? Hmm, I will do an online search and see if there is something interesting I can do for an alternative. Have to be careful about that, DH is happier with plainer food than I am, so I can't get too creative. LOL
Sorry you are struggling with sleep and eating Carol: I wonder if the overeating is affecting your sleep as well. I know how I was feeling when I was not sleeping well. I am really happy with the decision to go back on trazodone, I am consistently sleeping better, if not perfect, it is certainly good and not bad sleeps. Its a big difference in my day, and I am consistently accomplishing those tasks I set myself.
Trish, you are doing great and for you, consistency sometimes doesn't work as well as switching things up. I'm doing that by having more meals on the weekends.
I am taking my slow loss at this point as a sign of my insulin resistance that is still in play. It did not work to go off the metformin, which is another sign. So even with the weight loss I had, I am still very insulin resistant even if not pre-diabetic. So I really must stay on the metformin. I never really wanted to go off, I was thinking that I was holding onto glucose stores with taking it, but it seems to be more beneficial and not slowing me at all, so I will stick with it as planned. Other than diet and metformin, I don't know what else to do for the insulin resistance, except of course for exercise. I seem to be doing well with my 30+ minutes of walking now, and moving about the house etc. I even did some gardening one day. But no doubt time to increase my exercise.
Like we say, not for weight loss, but for other benefits.

Have a good day, still rainy here
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Its amazing, but after I went back to bed I slept well even if only for 4+ hours. Fitbit rated that sleep as an 80 which is higher than most of my sleep. I had 1 HR before I got up to read. I think the reason I could not sleep was a combination of knowing I over ate and being angry at myself, plus knowing we had to be at the tax place by 8:20. Its rare that I have to set an alarm clock and I don't trust it. I remember when I worked setting 2 clocks even though I was usually awake before any alarm rang. I feel ok so far. I haven't eaten yet but still don't feel particularly hungry. I rarely feel real hunger. I'm at 18 hrs so far. If DH had cooked I probably would have eaten but he only cooked the last of the sausage and I didn't want any.

Yesterday I bought salad fixings so I will probably make a salad for lunch/brunch. After saying that I have to be in the mood for a salad I've been craving them lately. I don't know what my protein will be if any. Maybe tuna. I like tuna but never think to eat it.

I think I will make chili for dinner. I love chili so I hope I don't overeat on it. I make the smallest amount I can using 1 can of beans and 1 can of tomatoes, half pound of meat, but its still too much for 1 serving for each of us, and I won't save it. I'm trying to learn to throw it out but that's very hard for me. I wish my BIL would take my leftovers but he only eats junk food carbs.

I did not weigh before going to the tax place and don't feel like getting undressed to weigh now. Plus my eating yesterday makes me not want to know. Ignorance is bliss.

Mad, I think exercise is better for insulin resistance rather than diet so maybe 2 walks per day or some other exercise/activity. With low carb eating along with fasting I wouldn't think you are storing much excess glucose. Metformin is said to help with weight loss but I think that's only in the beginning. You will figure it out. Have you heard of the "one golden shot" with low carb? I don't believe it but don't really know. It is said that the first time you do low carb the weight just falls off but if you regain and try again its a struggle.
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As usual weight is bouncing but then I weighed earlier. I got up a little bit earlier today because I need more daylight time in my life when DH is sleeping. Since I'm trying to be more consistent with my exercise and want to continue some of my other activities, I need to get up earlier. Weight this morning was 187 but that may be sodium since I knew my legs were swollen last night. I peed all night but not enough. I still am thinking of getting Lasix prescription for those times, but if I could eat lower carb, the sodium would not be a problem. So will see how it goes. There was a time when I did Atkins that DH ate his carby foods and it didn't bother me for him to eat his carbs and me eat without them. It would be nice if I could get back to that.

Carol Sue I'm sorry you are having a problem with sleeping and the overeating. I have to say that it is much easier now that DH can't eat some of the snack foods he used to eat because we don't bring them in the house. He is strong willed that way which really helps me. I used to love eating chef salads when we went out to eat and have thought about doing that again sometime.

Mad Sounds like you are getting a routine going again with the exercise already. I really think you will finally break your stall. Sometimes things are just slow which they say is better as we get older so I try to remember that.

WW and Keto have so many beautiful recipes that I would love to try, but I have the same situation with my DH who seems to like meals that are plain and simple. He is so picky that he won't eat casseroles. And I think they could make cooking them easier as well. I'm surprised at some of the foods he will eat and I try to go with some of them.

Busy day today as this is shopping day. We will go to Sam's and Walmart and I would like to go to HEB too as they have the cauliflower and pretty veggies I need for salads. Don't know if DH will want to hit 3 stores or not. He has decided that he wants KFC because he needs his coleslaw from there. If I have time, I want to make some creamed spinach before we leave to go with it, but first I have to do my devotions and 30 minute bike ride. So I better get to it.

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I had a 19 hour fast overnight followed by an 8 HR eating window. That's long for me but I ate a salad with tuna at 11:30 then I didn't eat again until 7:30 pm. At which time I was craving broccoli so I ate broccoli and cauliflower with parmesan cheese on it. I didn't make the Chili and might make it tomorrow. I don't understand first my craving for a salad, then craving for broccoli. I guess my body needed vitamins. So it was 2 meals 7-8 hours apart and probably low calorie. We went to the casino today instead of tomorrow and it was a mistake. We did terrible. All good things must come to an end. We had a nice winning streak.

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Carol Sue Glad you had a good fasting and eating day. Sorry about the bad casino day.

I had a 17 hr fast but could have gone longer if we hadn't been going shopping. I had already done a lot of exercising before we left and knowing we were going to be walking a lot I decided to drink half a protein shake to hold me till we got home. I ended up with an 8 hr eating window.

Headed to bed soon. Hope you have a good nights sleep Carol Sue.
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In spite of not overeating I'm up .4, but that's not very much plus its probably because I ate later in the evening. I'm ok with that. I want to mix things up, take an occasional break from shorter eating windows. I do love the shorter eating windows best, though. It seems to increase my energy.

I think the half protein shake was a good idea, Trish. Just enough to keep you from having issues while shopping, and protein is always good.

We stopped at Wal-Mart on the way home yesterday. I wanted to try Zyrtec for my allergies that are terrible this spring. I unusually take Claritin but it doesn't work great. I probably need something with a decongestant but can't because of HBP. I tried Zyrtec once before but probably not long enough. I'm tired of a runny nose all the time.

Sleep was better last night. I did lay awake for an hour around 3 am but was able to fall back to sleep. I feel rested.

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I am 162.4 today after my eating day. Today will be a fasting day. But I don't expect to lose much overnight. I really overate yesterday, and although I was still spilling ketones, I just plain ate too much.
I snacked between meals, (though not really hungry) and had a LOT of stew, followed by a keto dessert cookie. I have not eaten like that since DD birthday March 20th, so I don't feel horribly guilty.
When we overeat, and it doesn't show on the scale right away, do you think we have "delayed" weights? Like the next day or two, we have the weight gain, not right away.
So tomorrow, in spite of fasting, I would not be surprised to still be 162. I just hope its not more!
I did my two walks yesterday, AND took Buddy to the dog park. I didn't walk as much there as usual because there were 4 puppies for him to play and run with and he was going the whole time, and was quite tired after that. He is such a happy boy after a good run.

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Mad, I think weight gain or loss doesn't really have anything to do with what we ate the day before. Especially if it did not include carbs. Carbs cause our bodies to retain fluid, not fat, which is what were really worried about. A drop after a feast day can lead us to falsely believe that overeating is good, but it always catches up with us in the end. This is the problem we face with daily weighing but I still think we are better off knowing. I would really hate to get on the scale after a week of not weighing and see a gain. I actually like the fact that I know my weight at any time to the tenth of a lb.


I bought a can of pink salmon at Dollar Tree. $1 of course. It was pretty good! I'm going to get more. It makes a good protein and fat snack but have to be careful of mercury so not every day. I love salmon. There used to be a guy on this forum, Ian, who lost his weight by eating lots of canned fish. I always wonder where all these people have gone.
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Carol Sue and Mad If we go by what WW used to tell people when they started WW plan and even today they say concerning their 3 plans and that is to give a diet/plan 2 weeks to see how it works for you for you before switching to another plan. So I think it is true that we don't really see the results of what we ate yesterday today. So maybe y'all are correct. I also like weighing everyday to see what I'm doing. It makes me feel like I'm on top of the situation. I know of people who weigh once a week or even once a month. I could never do that.

I got an article from Livestrong today on how exercise affects our weight that surprised me. We hear that exercise doesn't help us lose, but I have never heard that too exercise can actually keep us from losing because it causes us to release the stress chemical cortisol. According to that, I am exercising too much as I have a tendency to overdo whatever I am doing. I actually did almost 35 minutes on the recumbent bike in order to do 3 miles. Then I walked a minimum of 1 hr when we went shopping besides my strength exercises. According to the article, cardio should be done 2x a week and strength 3x a week. In fact, according to this article, it can cause our weight to stall if we overdo it. Another thing that can cause a stall besides the over exercising is skipping on the rest recovery time. I am bad about that one too. You have to have the recovery and rest balance with the exercising and we get fatigued. I get that a lot when I exercise because when I get on a roll of exercise I'm afraid if I skip a day that I won't do it at all. Then I get burned out on it and stop. I read once that we should exercise every other day and I have even heard someone my age say they exercise with a trainer 3x a week. So I think I just may start to do that. I have one more day this week to do the 3 miles and one more to do the strength stretches I do. I will take a break today and do them tomorrow and have them done for the week. Next week I will go to doing them alternate days.

Weight seems to be stuck at 187, but at least it is staying there. IF along with the low carb seems to be good at this time. I just realized that I didn't even check my FBG or BP this morning. Can't believe I did that.

I was able to get the cod fish fillets I like at Sam's so that is on the menu for today. and I'm going for a 19 hr fast today shooting for a 5 hr eating window.

Have a nice day everyone.
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When I was preparing the chili I ate a piece of celery and a piece of carrot. I tend to snack while I'm cooking, tasting. So not a 100% fast as fasting goes, but I care more about meals that I'm skipping, less food that I'm eating. Do I make my own rules? Pretty much. I might not get into ketosis or autophagy but I don't think I'll see a gain, either. I'm more concerned about eating a reasonable serving of chili, stopping when I'm satisfied. A normal eater never thinks about a couple bites of food here and there, especially celery!. I want to be a normal eater.
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I want to weigh but am afraid of seeing the 9 again. I know that's silly but I'm just sick of the 9. I feel fat.

I slept very well last night. Fitbit says 83. I went to bed early but watched TV with DH for 2 hours. When I decided it was time to sleep I put on my CPap and it was making a terrible hissing and the machine had a message "adjust mask.". I tried, but no luck. I found an old mask I had kept for such event but the hissing didn't stop. I didn't need to be having these issues at midnight! DH suggested the hose but the machine indicated it was the mask. I found another hose and that was the problem. Good thing I keep these spares around. Normally the machine is very quiet. I have to pull the mask away from my face to be sure its working. I did get up twice for the bathroom but went right back to sleep.

DH bought some red potatoes, ate them twice, and no pain. He doesn't like the taste or texture of them as well but says its better than having pain. After my father died and my brother moved out my mother started buying red potatoes because they don't spoil as fast. There's no real difference to me but I am not a potato connesiour like DH. He prefers russet.
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Hi friends: miraculous 159.5 after my fast. Delighted. Today is eating day, I will enjoy the left over low carb beef stew and something else. I am thinking omelet or soup or something simple along those lines with maybe a small salad. The only problem with the stew is that its not high fat. The recipe is called "keto" but to be "keto" there needs to be more fat. There was a bit in the beef, and I browned it in olive oil before putting it in the slow cooker, but the veggies have no fat. Not sure how to add fat, unless once heated up I add butter or something. The day I made it I also had peanuts and the high fat keto cookies for dessert, and had eaten a high fat lunch, so overall stayed keto for the day. Not sure how I will do that today, but will keep it in mind.
I think what you both say about one day of big eating is not an issue overall is true. Kind of like an up day with JUDD. And mixes it up for keeping my metabolism guessing. The key is not to let that Up day turn into several I think. I was also worried because I was way outside an 8 hr eating window, but again, one day is ok. I do tend to let that turn into several days of poor eating choices, but this time did not and went right into my fast. I think it also worked because I stayed low carb so I did not trigger any carb cravings. Just musing on what I did "right" this time.
I got two walks in yesterday, and hope to continue with that. The knee is not bothering me too much these days, getting better all the time.

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Mad, because of my Compulsive Overeating issues I am trying to learn to eat like a normal person. I do try to keep carbs down because of my diabetes but otherwise don't count anything or follow a specific plan. I want to lose my obsession with food but still lose weight. I feel that normal eaters will sometimes go longer without eating for various reasons and also eat excessively on some days. So I am trying to do the same. I even try not to keep the same fasting window each day. I keep track on a fasting app, but I have been just fasting until I eat...no specific time limit. I'm finding it very easy to go longer but never go beyond dinner because DH wants me to eat with him. Otherwise I think I could easily go overnight again. One of these days I'm going to try it. I don't understand why I'm not losing more but I DO eat in my eating window. I don't stuff myself but I don't really limit. So I know if I have a day when my appetite is greater I'm going to eat more and it will affect my weight. But I don't understand my lack of hunger. My stomach feel empty but I would rarely think, "boy am I hungry.". Maybe my issues are so bad that I don't really know what hunger is.

My doctor's appointment is next Friday so I will be getting blood work done on Monday so he will have the results. I'm so curious to see how the pandemic affected me. I know I was eating more carbs for a while and haven't been exercising. I doubt if the changes in the past couple weeks will change anything.

He will probably encourage me to get the vaccine but I'm not interested right now. I was getting to " maybe" but after the recent issues with J&J I'm back to no. I realize that most people have no issues but I'm still leary. I might never get it unless it becomes mandatory.
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Trish, I think over exercising means the gym rats who exercise for hours at a time every day. I don't think what you've been doing is excessive. The exercise physiologist at cardiac rehab told me to do 150 minutes per week for health and 300 minutes for weight loss. Other activities like housework and walking in a store are good but I don't think it really counts toward exercise unless you are walking very fast. This is just my opinion and you know I am far from being an expert on exercise! Ha ha ha

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