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Trish, I love oatmeal and will have it once in a while, but it still raises my blood sugar. I will continue to buy the Sara Lee Multigrain bread, because I keep it in the freezer and a loaf lasts me months since I only have it occasionally.
I was reading through some old posts in LowCarbFriends, just to see what information/inspiration is available. Some people really go all out, with supplements, really high fat, etc. I found a reference to this:
After the site comes up, click on "LINKS." It is amazing! I never realized so many low carb sites were out there. I only clicked on a few, and some of them are just ads trying to sell something, but there are a lot of free informational sites and blogs. Lots of information! I bookmarked it, and will refer to some of them now and then.
Carol Sue Thanks for the link. I bookmarked it too so I can read and maybe I can find a way to make low carb work for me. I have shied away from eating HFLC because I wasn't sure all that fat was good for us, but maybe I am wrong. Especially since it obviously does not raise bs and is healthy. I read on there that we have been told so much that saturated fat was bad for us but that seems to be what a lot of HFLCrs use a large amounts of it. The article went on to say that saturated fats do not go rancid. I never thought of that which makes me think that maybe they aren't so bad after all. And of couI rse we've learned that fat makes us stay satisfied longer.
I had also noticed when reading what people on the lowcarber site that some of them eat a LOT of fat even to the point that some talked about I eating butter by itself to keep from eating when hungry. I've also heard in the past of people eating loads of fat (I think they called it a fat fast) for a few days to break a weight stall.
I had more of a CAD day today. Only had 2 meals. We went to the church to view body and speak to the widow of the doctor. Then ran by the store to get some more eggs and stopped at Subway for a sandwich. I've been wanting one for a while. I got the oat bread/club and had the guy load it down with veggies and had oil and vinegar on it. Then I got hungry later so I scrambled my eggs with some sausage in some leftover bacon fat. Went a little heavier on the fat than I normally would. I think I will go ahead and make tomorrow a low carb day. Probably will only have 2 meals. Eating the higher fat should make it easier.
I was going to wait until after my doctor's appt, but why wait. I'll just go ahead and do it.
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Trish, I don't go out of my way to add fat, but I don't do low fat either. I pay attention to carbs and total calories. I am using more butter than I did before and I eat sausage and bacon, whereas before I used to choose turkey sausage or Canadian bacon. Somewhere I read that fat is not bad for you until you combine it with a carb, such as butter on bread, or fried potatoes. I have heard of the fat fast also, but never paid attention to the details.
This morning my blood sugar was 134. Although high, it's the lowest FBG I have had for a while, so I was pleased. I added some spinach and lentils to my scrambled eggs, getting back to beans. Just a sprinkling, not a lot. When I enter my food on Fitday, the eggs seem to be my biggest source of fat for the day, so I don't worry that I'm not getting enough fat. I feel confindent if I watch my carbs and portion sizes more closely I will be successful.
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The night before last, my BS was in the 160s when I went to bed. I ate a scrambled egg, and the next morning it was in the 130s, a drop of 30 points. My blood sugar doesn't usually drop during the night. Yesterday, when I went to bed, my BS was 166. I did not eat anything, and this morning BS was 167. No change. I don't know if the drop was a fluke, or if the egg really made a difference. After reading about the fat fast, I'm thinking it was the fat in the egg and not the protein that made a difference.
After we talked yesterday, I googled and read up about Fat Fast. It's not as bad as I previously thought. It includes foods like eggs, avacados, nuts, cream cheese....things that have healthy fat, not just a lot of plain fat. It says not to do it more than 3-5 days to break a plateau. Here's my question. Is it like every other fad? Do you gain the weight back as soon as you go back to regular low-carb? I like avocados but I quit buying them because of the difficulty keeping them from turning brown once they're cut. I've tried everything, and I'm not satisfied with the results. The only thing I didn't do is use my food saver. DH suggested that, as it pulls all the air out of the bag.
For 2 days I have had 2 meals and cut back on my portions. This morning my weight is down 1.5 lbs. For some reason I just didn't have the urge to snack like I usually do, plus there's not much in the house to snack on right now. I'm hoping that this lack of appetite continues.
hi all, hope monday is a good day for you. I am having a quiet work time, but we will see how long that lasts.
Cold here again, with a bad windchill. DOn't expect it to get to seasonal temperatures, (still below freezing but not arctic) until the weekend. but its really sunny. Hard to manage exercise right now, but will keep trying.
Stayed on plan yesterday, so am back where I need to be.
Good work Carol Sue and Trish, I know adding fat is difficult, but it really helps the cravings and makes low carb successful. enjoy!
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Mad, after all these years of being told that fat is bad for you, plus a cardiologist who still is preaching the low-fat lifestyle, it's very hard to change that mind set. Every time I want to eat fat I think "What if I'm wrong?" I'm still here today after eating lower fat.
We are still having the cold temps, too, but were told this morning that in a week or so the weather is going to break and we will be getting into the 40s or 50s. Goodbye to February for another year.
Sorry I didn't post yesterday. I've been doing a lot of reading and purchased a few books online which I can get my money back if I want and I probably will since I'm not going to be following the plan. It is supposed to be a Money back guarantee for 60 days.
I think some what he shared was good but a little extreme, but I have to say that I do understand more of why IF works and I honestly believe it will work greatly even with a VLC diet. I really believe I am going to try doing more of an Atkins type plan with IF. I can really understand why the fat works too. He recommends detoxing the liver and explains how the liver is the key to insulin control, but I'm not sure you have to do it as drastically as he says especially since I understand the roll that IF and low carb plays to do it as well. Of course it may not work as fast as his plan will, but it will work.
Carol Sue One thing I really got from the book is that the veggies play a big part in lowering the bs. I thought of how you do so much better when you eat more veggies. He does say that fruit should be eaten alone in the morning before eating any other meal. Which I used to do the Fit For Life plan where you are allowed to eat fruit for 8 hrs before noon which is supposed to be a detoxing period. Then eat your food between 12 and 8pm and fast 8 hrs between 8 pm and 4 am. You didn't eat meat and starches together on FFL. So I could do that if I wanted, but I won't. I just didn't like the combining rules. But I think the IF/VLC would work just as well and eating veggies cooked and raw seems to be to that woe.
So I will be eating that way not the way this book suggests.
I closed out for a few minutes to go and ask for a refund on my money on that order real quick. Just no need to have something I already have. Can't afford to waste money.
Carol Sue I am not going to go out of my way to add more fat, but I am not going to do lowfat either. I will go ahead and use the butter in the veggies I want it on and not worry about it. One thing I did do this morning is that I had 1 slice of the 45 calories MG bread with my eggs this morning. I really don't think 1 slice is going to hurt me and I used coconut oil on it because of the benefits. I also had a cheese stick at noon because I needed something to hold me over until DH gets up. I still have the problem you do though because I've had it drilled into my mind so that we shouldn't eat fat, but from what I've read it has it place because it does not raise bs. Same is true of the protein, but I have noticed that people who have tweaked their low carb diets do not seem to be eating high amounts of protein like they used to do.
It will be easy for me to eat a salad and a cooked veggie with protein for lunch and dinner. It just is a matter of getting used to it. We get paid Wednesday and I will stock up more on greens etc for a good salad twice a day. I love veggies so it won't be difficult for me to eat that way.
Mad Congratulations on staying OP and getting back where you need to be. I hope to join you and Carol with an OP day today.
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I am concerned about Shannon, too, but she is taking those classes along with everything else she has going on and she's probably just busy.
Trish, LC used to mean high protein, but now I think it's getting back to normal portions and upping the fat. Today, I bought some guacamole at Aldi's rather than buying the avacados. It has 2 8oz packs in it for $3 so that will work better for me than trying to hurry to finish an avacado before it goes bad. I also bought frozen, collards, spinach and kale. I am going to go with the frozen for a while that I can mix with my eggs and other cooked vegetables. I like the fresh baby kale, but I'm not eating enough salads through the winter and it goes bad before I can eat it all. So the only salads I will be having will be when we eat out.
So my new plan is eating breakfast around 10, eggs with veggies and lentils mixed in, no lunch, and dinner with DH around 4. This eliminates the veggies I usually ate for lunch, but I can just add them to my dinner, or have them for a snack in the evening. But I will not do that unless I am hungry. I do need to get them in, but it will have to be with breakfast and dinner. And I am going to check BS at bedtime and eat 1 egg most nights. It will depend on my BS reading. If it's already low, I won't bother. I am now convinced that it's the fat in the egg, not the protein that is helping. Eating the egg breaks my fast for IF, but I need to do whatever is going to work best for me.
I am making chili for dinner. After I take out my portion I add cooked macaroni to it for DH. I'm going to try eating just 1 small bowl. No second helpings!!!
Got up this morning to snow and it is still snowing here. I was beginning to wonder if we were going to get our at least once a year snow. We are supposed to get an inch before it stops today and then have rain tomorrow. However, looking at the weather channel, it is iffy as to what the next storm will bring and exactly when.
My fbs has been all over the place so I have no idea what my A1c will be. My DH new schedule of eating kind of messes with the plan I originally had because I used to make my last meal around 6, but lately he doesn't want to eat until 3ish. So I've got to readjust my plan. I don't want to eat anything 3 hrs after our main meal.
Carol Sue I think I will start having brunch sometime between 10 and 11 am and the main meal at 3 with him and then have either a snack or an Atkins shake around 6:30 or 7. That would make my IF window a little over 8 hrs, but when I was researching IF, I remember reading somewhere online that women seem to do really well eating during an 9 hr window. So that just might work for you and me. My window will be any where between 8 to 8 1/2 hrs. If we don't go over 9 hrs, we will be okay.
Any way that is my plan. I have to say that as cold as it is that this would be an excellent morning to eat oatmeal. My fbs worked well using the LCD for dummies plan so this may just be one of those days for me especially since DGS is stuck at home today and I'm making spaghetti for our 3 o'clock meal. We were supposed to go to store tomorrow, but I don't think anyone is going any where in this town today or tomorrow since everything kind of shuts down here when we have this kind of weather.
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My egg at bedtime brought my FBS down again, so I guess that's a good choice for me, even though it is right in the middle of my fasting period. Maybe it's OK since it's such a small amount of food.
I ate only 1 serving of chili! Yay me! There is some leftover in the refrigerator but I'm not hungry for it. I could freeze it, but if I don't eat it by tomorrow I will throw it out. Another first for me. I hate to throw food away. DH will not eat leftovers. But I've decided that it's better to throw it away than to eat food I don't need.
Carol Sue YAY for eating only 1 serving of the chili. I think the egg is the best choice because it not only is fat, but is protein and neither one of them causes an insulin increase.
DGS had classes at the college any way so I am not making spaghetti. We have leftover beans and I am going to have a salad and beans for dinner which are supposed to be insulin friendly. Around 6:30 I will have a shake which will put me within the 8 hr window since I didn't eat breakfast until almost 11 am. I will have to get my exercise in for today too because I haven't done any yet this week. I seem to do pretty good on 3 or 5 servings of carbs so as long as I stay within the 8 to 9 hrs and keep the carbs under 5 a day, my bs should go back to being good again. We will see.
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Trish, I really have to get back to my exercising, especially strengthening my thighs/legs. I had a bad experience yesterday. Anytime I get down on my knees I need to hold on to a chair or something for support to get back up. I was on my knees looking for DVD movies in a cabinet where we keep them. I fell over half on my knees and half on my left side. I could NOT get back up onto my knees. I struggled for a few minutes then I had to call for DH to help me. What if he wasn't here? I have seen that commercial "I've fallen and I can't get up." but I never thought that would be me! I don't want my life to be that way. I need to work on this while I still can. It was a big wake-up call.
The funny thing about the egg at bedtime, if I DON'T eat it, my blood sugar is the same in the morning as it is at bedtime. It only goes down if I eat the egg. Strange, but if it works, it works!
((((Carol Sue)))) So sorry you fell. You be careful girl. I know how you feel though. I want a better quality of life in the days ahead than I will have if I don't get this under control. Hope you didn't hurt yourself too bad.
It is strange about how the egg works for you before going to bed, but whatever works do it. We are all different and need to do what works for us individually.
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Trish, I didn't actually fall. I was on my knees and my body just fell toward the side, so I was part on my knees, and part on my side. I didn't get hurt, but was just upset that I couldn't get back up by myself. I think the recumbent bike will help and also leg lifts. Just need to strengthen my muscles.
