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lilturtle 09-20-2014 05:30 PM

I weighed myself and I am down a little over a pound. My diet was so bad for a couple of weeks and I didn't gain weight. I was eating massive amounts of pizza, wings, cheeseburgers, chips, etc. I don't understand it. Tonight my dinner will be a turkey sammie, greek yogurt, and a banana. I don't usually update my ticker for small amounts of weight but I broke 350, so I am going to.

IBelieveInMe2 09-21-2014 12:00 AM

Trish
 
Trish: Congratulations on breaking through 350!!! :carrot:

lilturtle 09-21-2014 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by IBelieveInMe2:
Trish: Congratulations on breaking through 350!!! :carrot:

Thanks!! My next goal is to get into the 2s although I should probably have a smaller one.:carrot:

FleurDeLis 09-21-2014 07:26 PM

Hi everyone,

I've had a busy week or two and wasn't able to get on here to post. School is keeping me busy and working out during the week doesn't give me much time to do anything else.

To share some good news with everyone, I weighed in today and was 169.5lbs. We planned to eat at Joe's crab shack today and so I doubt I'll still be at that number tomorrow. I do my best to just weigh once or twice a week and it seems to work for me. I've also been going to the cycling class at my gym nearly ever day monday thru friday. I only missed thurs and fri this past week. One day I just wasn't feeling up to going and friday I had already planned to go to the store and get my hair cut.

The bad news.. today would be my daughters 6 month birthday. It was a hard day for me. We went to mass in the morning then picked up some fresh flowers for her grave. We went to the cemetery and replaced the artificial flowers that have been there since the stone was placed. We got her crazy daisies. They are my favorite because they are these really vibrant blue, pink, green, purple, and orange daisies. Really pretty. They looked wonderful. I'm sad because I just want to hold her and have her here with me.. I know where she is and I'm happy, but I just wish I was the one holding her instead of Jesus... :/

IBelieveInMe2 09-21-2014 08:17 PM

Sabrina (FleurDeLis): Happy 6 month birthday to your sweet Isabelle, who is watching over you from Heaven, I'm sure. Having lost my darling Sean, I know that incredibly painful ache of wanting to just hold them close. :cry: It always seems worse on their special days. My heart aches for you. :cry: I am sending many BIG HUGS your way. :hug: :hug: :hug: The colorful crazy daisies that you placed on Isabelle's grave sound beautiful. I am so sorry you had a rough day. Keeping you in my prayers. :hug: On a brighter note, CONGRATULATIONS on getting down into the 160s!!! :D That is just awesome!!! :carrot: You are doing so well to get a lot of exercise in along with work and school. That is great! Keep up the good work! :D

Trish (lilturtle): It IS helpful to set mini goals on your way to the 200s. I have had the goal of getting to the 100s again for a LONG time now, but the scale will not budge down for me. I have kind of been in "give up" mode with food the past few weeks because of it. I truly feel as though all I can do is GAIN weight. :( It is so darn frustrating!!! I hate it. :cry: It makes me want to give up much of the time, but something in me keeps trying to get back on board, thank God.

Waving HELLO to everyone else and wishing you well! :wave: Have a great week everyone! :hug:

aryastark 09-22-2014 07:15 AM

Hi ladies and welcome Summer to the group. I hope you find it useful on your journey. This weekend hasn't been great at all. I've been so down but today I feel better so I hope this week will be a good one.

My daughter who is 17 has depression also and has been on meds for the past 3 months. I can see she is a bit brighter but we had our first follow up visit with our doctor on Saturday and she says she doesn't feel any improvement. He is giving it another month and then we move onto Plan B but what that is I don't know. I am so worried about her.

Sabrina - congrats on breaking through the 170's. A belated happy birthday to Isabelle, I know that its a tough week coming up to birthdays and things like that. I lost my daughter Grace through miscarriage in 2008, mostly I am okay and then on special days it hits you like a train, its as fresh as it was at the beginning. The gaps between the bad days do increase and you will start to find joy in your life again. Hang on in there.

Fi - I hope you are doing okay today. I'm thinking of you xx

Trish - congrats on your success, its wonderful to hear. :carrot:

Fiona W 09-22-2014 06:12 PM

I'm still not feeling very well, still in the midst of a bigtime episode of depression. I have reason to hope that it will come to an end soon, but in the meantime I'm still dealing with a lot of pain.

Not all is downbeat, though. This morning it happened that I tossed my tie-dye skirt on the couch, and immediately the kittens jumped up on it. I grabbed my iPad and started taking photos of what started with them washing themselves apart, then soon became a frenzied bout of tussling combined with mutual washing. They looked like they had a fabulous time, and at the end of it they went to sleep. Obviously most of the pics I snapped were too blurry to use, because of how fast the kittens were moving, but I did manage to find fifteen that had temporarily frozen motion, so I give them to those of you who appreciate my kitten pics. They are absolutely in order of how the events occurred. I hope you find them amusing. They're certainly colorful, I can promise you that.

Here they are:
one--two--three--four--five--six--seven--eight--nine--ten--eleven--twelve--thirteen--fourteen--fifteen

IBelieveInMe2 09-23-2014 02:25 AM

Hello!
 
aryastark: Sorry to hear that you have been down and that you are dealing with your daughter's depression, too. I hope that things begin looking UP for both of you soon! Sending you BIG HUGS! :hug: Hang in there!!!

Fi: Absolutely LOVE seeing those adorable kittens all curled up together!!! They just look like the best of buddies!!! What great photos with your colorful skirt for a backdrop! :) I love the one where it looks like one of them is either laughing or screaming! :D Sorry to hear that you still aren't feeling well. Hope this passes soon and that get to feeling better as quickly as possible! :hug:

We went on another college visit with my son, who is a senior, on Monday and my hubby turned 50, too! :celebrate: It is hard to believe that we are truly "middle-agers." Despite the excess weight and all of my aches and pains, I usually feel much younger on the inside....... until I catch a glimpse of myself in the mirror! :o We visited Xavier. Didn't like it as much as the University of Dayton, but he did like the school, especially the cute tour guide! ;) I have to keep reminding him that we are searching for a good school and not for the one that has the "cutest girls!" :lol: Anyway, we celebrated my hubby's BIG b-day all weekend and I ate way too much unhealthy food. :o No exercise either. :( I feel like a big whale right now, but it is back to the drawing board in the morning with my trainer. YIKES! I hope to get back on plan this week! :^:

Lisa_C 09-23-2014 05:56 PM

Hello friends,


I see some having difficulties and I have not been here for support. I am not been a good friend.

Lots going on here!!! They have diagnosed my condition that is causing my migraines but do not seem to be in any great hurry to help me. arghhhhhhhh It is NOT life threatening and I still have them although they are better.

I think I am losing a little bit of weight, my pants are just a TAD looser around the waist. I haven't been eating as much. No idea what my weight is??? Will find out in the future some time.

Fi, I see you are struggling. I'm so sorry. *hug*

aryastark, hello, it's nice to meet you and I'm sorry you are struggling with depression, as well. *hug*

IBelieveInMe2, I see where you were visiting colleges. My daughter goes to Ashland University, near Mansfield. She is a Senior there.

Sabrina, I am so sorry about your daughter. I really am. I have no words. Just a hug for you.


Trish, congrats on your weight. woooooo hooooo girl, you go!!!!!!!


I will really try to get back in here more often. Twice a month just won't do it.*hugs*

IBelieveInMe2 09-23-2014 10:27 PM

Lisa (ohiofreespirit)!!!
 
Lisa (ohiofreespirit): No place for feeling guilty in this group, okay?!? I am just glad you checked in here so that we can get an update! Sorry about your migraines and that they don't seem to be in any great hurry to help you. That must be frustrating. Glad to hear they are somewhat better, though. What is causing them? I am curious because I also suffer from migraines. I hope you can get some help soon! HOORAY for LOOSER pants!!! :D How does your daughter like Ashland? My son seems to want to stay fairly close to home, so maybe that would be another place to visit. Great to hear from you! How is school going?

Fiona W 09-24-2014 12:15 PM

A victory on the depression front! I track my moods according to a 0 down to -7 system, where 0 is no depression pain, -1 a small amount, & so on, and yesterday was a 0/0/0 day: no depression in morning, afternoon, & evening. That's the first all-zeros day I've had in about three weeks. =happy sigh=

I really think what's helping me pull out of this one is the "practice" (that's what he calls it) that my new Qidong ("chee-dong") instructor taught me. I've been doing it for a dozen times or more, often throughout the day, ever since last Thursday—the exact timing of my gradual climb out of depression. It's a simple motion-meditation involving breathing in & out, standing up, while moving my arms in a certain way. It really helps me feel grounded and centered, with the energy of my body flowing through me in a healthier way. I see my instructor again tomorrow: I'm eager to give him positive feedback, and curious to see what he'll come up with next.

I spent seven arduous hours yesterday making a collage, one that truly feels like an accomplishment. But I won't give y'all the link to it, because it's (1) purposefully hideous, and (2) all about the ugliness (in his work & his inner person) of a multimillionaire artist, Jeff Koons, whom you probably haven't heard of. Lucky for you if that's so!

Now if I can just return to doing my leg exercices every night, and add some walking, plus refrain from the overeating that crept in during my depression, I will really be back on track. =smile=

I'd like to resume doing personals, but today is not the day, since Bob just got back from a trip to the farm. We really need to spend some time together. But I'd like to greet kcandponies and Summer, since I haven't had a chance to do so. Welcome to the Ups & Downs thread, gals: may your endeavors prove fruitful indeed!

IBelieveInMe2 09-24-2014 04:55 PM

Fi
 
Fi: So happy you are making progress pulling out of that horrible episode of depression! Glad the Qidong is helping! Thanks for sharing the good news with us! :)

Lisa_C 09-24-2014 05:55 PM

Fi, so glad you are attempting to pull yourself out of the darkness. I need to try meditation or a form of it. I think it would do me a world of good.

IBelieveInMe2,thank you so much for understanding about my absence. There really is no excuse though. I just need to make the board a bigger priority.
Yay for looser pants is right. I put on jeans this morning that had just been washed and left to dry, and then slide right on, no sucking in the gut for this pair. yay!!!!!! I will just continue doing what I'm doing and see where the scale lays when I go to the Dr the next time. Maybe the weight loss is my imagination?


Have a great evening, friends. Much love.

lilturtle 09-25-2014 02:02 PM

I am currently in Deleware visiting friends. It is a little more complicated then that but it is probably best I leave it at that. I am staying until Sunday. I get to cook while I am here (yay!) but stress out if it will be good. (boo) Tonight they want some kind of baked breaded chicken. I am going to start getting some ideas online. Like baked fried chicken I guess. I made bbq pork chops, perogies, and green beans last night. I haven't slept in two nights. I am exhausted. I am so sensitive about sleep. I was just getting a handle on it at home.

IBelieveInMe2 09-25-2014 04:41 PM

Trish
 
Trish: Hope all is well! Try to get some sleep! You need to take care of yourself, too! :hug:

Fiona W 09-26-2014 10:59 AM

I am unusual for this group in that I only weigh myself once a month, and sometimes not even that often, like recently when I have been going through a huge amount of stress (mostly positive) followed by about a three- or four-week episode of severe depression. I know I have gained some weight because I didn't eat on plan consistently during the depression, so I skipped my monthly weigh-in on the 22nd.

But I keep a graph of my weight over time which is updated every time I weigh myself and is posted prominently on the front of the fridge. My current graph starts in February of 2012, and while the trend is consistently downward (79 pounds down so far), there have been three episodes of severe stress followed by depression, during which I gained weight. I like looking at the graph and thinking of myself as going on a long journey through time, getting gradually smaller as I go.

I've been thinking of all of y'all on this thread while listening to a fabulous song I've heard three times now on the radio: Nils Lofgren's "Fat Girls Dance." The lyrics are great, especially the refrain, repeating "Nobody's leaving 'til the fat girls dance." I tried to find a video online where you could listen to it for free: no luck. I tried to find the lyrics for it: no luck there either. But if you go to Amazon or iTunes or wherever, you coud buy it for $0.99. It's worth the 99 cents, believe me—a great pop tune with a catchy beat and lyrics about how nobody can leave until the fat girls get a chance to dance.

I happen to be a person who is fat-positive, which means that even though I am working hard to lose weight, I do not view "fat" as a pejorative or derogatory or negative word in any way, shape or form. I am a fat woman. That is simply a factual and descriptive statement, no more derogatory than if I were to say, "I am a thin woman" or "I am a tall woman." I'm actually a fat and short woman. That's OK, too. =smile=

So buy the song if you trust me on this...if not, I hope it will show up on YouTube some day so you can hear it.

I had two more 0/0/0 days (no depression pain in morning/afternoon/evening. That makes three in a row. Whoopee!! And I had a great session with my Qidong ("chee-dong") instructor yesterday: wow, this Qidong stuff is workin' miracles for me. I'm not yet back on plan in my eating, but I'm sure I will be soon. Ditto with my leg exercises and walking plans: it's all gonna happen soon, I can feel it comin'. Meanwhile, I'm moving my Qi ("chee") around in really positive ways, and my depression is OVER, I just know it!

—Signing off for now, Fi

Fiona W 09-26-2014 10:43 PM

I made a collage that kind of expresses what I was going through during my depression. And it's also just kind of funny and sci-fi surreal. It's called "at times even ultraman succumbs to abject despair".

IBelieveInMe2 09-28-2014 12:17 AM

Good News!
 
I am so excited because, although my psychiatrist does NOT recommend it, he is going to help me try to get completely OFF of Abilify. I saw him on Friday and began the tapering off last night. I had been on 30 mg of Abilify originally; then went down to 25, then 20, and then 15..... all very gradually and spaced out and without event. The weaning off process will now be 10 mg for one month and then 5 mg for another month, and then ~ assuming that all goes well ~ I will be OFF Abilify!!!!!!!!! :carrot: I am excited but anxious about it. Abilify (a mood stabilizer for Bipolar depression) has caused weight gain AND made it more difficult for me to lose weight. So I am HOPEFUL once again that, once I get my thyroid functioning at an optimal level, I can finally LOSE some signigicant weight!!! :) My hubby will help to closely monitor my behavior and moods, as always. I took him with me to my appointment to let the doctor meet him and be assured of that.

Fi: I enjoyed your insights into your weight graph. CONGRATULATIONS on losing 79 pounds so far and on 3 triple 0 days in a row!!! :D This most definitely IS a long journey, but it is one SO worth taking! WE are worth it!!! I will try to find that song, but if you couldn't find it for free, I have my doubts that I will find it. I am NOT a fan of the "fat" word, but I am not usually easily offended, so I'm sure I would appreciate the song. Your collage is "kewl" as Holly would say! :) I so miss hearing from her! Hope she is okay. So glad to hear that your depression episode is finally lifting. :hug:

Fiona W 09-28-2014 01:25 PM

For those of you who follow my collages, I just made another one: "zig-zag". If you click on the collage, you'll get a larger version of it against black. I'm so happy to be having a creative week!

VermontMom 09-29-2014 08:59 PM

hello!! I'm really ashamed of not checking in at all in so long. I hope I haven't worried anyone, I just have one day off a week from work, which is not enough of an excuse or even the real reason; I haven't worked out regularly since May!! I am ashamed of that, plus I've been eating just about whatever I want, my ticket weight is NOT right. I am always so self critical and I know I'm wasting alot of my life by wishing I'm something I"m not. but I'm not desperately unhappy either :)

I have loved this summer as much as I can, been riding to work almost all the time, as as much after work as possible . I have enjoyed my flowers and lawn so very much :) and FINALLY our road has been paved smooth and that is such a joy to ride, no more going 22 miles out of my way every day to avoid it.

GREAT news is that my hubster is on board with going low carb so I have no excuse now!! today is my first day of trying to exert control, and I did work out for 50 minutes to one of my dvds.

I WILL check back soon!! and I need to meet the new folks and say Hi :wave and Hello to aryastark, I remember you from before !

IBelieveInMe2 09-29-2014 10:38 PM

Holly!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Holly: It is SOOOOOOOO great to hear from you!!!!!!! :D I have been worried about you, so thank you for checking in! I am glad to hear that you enjoyed the summer and have been riding that bike!!! :scooter: Do you have to go back to that dreadful fall/winter job again this year (the one with the dreadful boss, I mean)??? I hope not! It is so hard to believe that summer is officially over. :( I miss it already! Good to hear that your hubby is on board with low carb! It really helps to have a buddy for the journey! :) I was doing low carb, but I think I'm going back to counting calories. Not sure. I have sort of been floundering and rebelling myself lately. Thyroid issues and meds making it so difficult to lose weight had me so frustrated that I felt like it didn't matter what I did, I wasn't going to lose weight. But, if you read my good news above, I am tapering OFF of Abilify FINALLY, so I am hopeful that, once I get my thyroid functioning optimally (have first endocrinology appointment in November), I might actually be able to lose some weight again. I am still on several other meds, but Abilify is known to be a weight culprit, so I will be happy to discontinue it! Anyway, it is so wonderful to hear from you! You made my night! :) Take good care and please check in again SOON!!! :hug:

Fiona W 09-29-2014 11:08 PM

Holly— You're back!! Hooray! The prodigal biker-chick-dessert-baker returns to the Ups & Downs thread!

Please don't be down on yourself for what you ate or the workouts you didn't do. We love you. All is forgiven. It is what it is. Just set your mind on inhaling the future of eating right & exercising, and exhaling the past of whatever silly stuff you think you did wrong!

lilturtle 09-29-2014 11:16 PM

Psych meds that cause weight gain are awful. I was on seroquel and it was the same way. As soon as I was off it the weight started coming off. I take geodon now and it doesn't cause weight gain. I just started topamax too and it is supposed to suppress my appetite. I'm only on a low dose though so far not helping much. I also finally got some help with my anxiety, a low dose of klonopin. I'm feeling much better.

VermontMom 09-30-2014 05:21 AM

Oh my gosh, how could I have strayed when I feel like I have a cheering section :D :carrot: :cheer2: thank you Kathleen and Fi :) and Hi lil'turtle, it is good to 'see' you too !

Hey the commercials for the antidepressants you guys mentioned surely don't dwell on the weight gain factor, do they :rolleyes: those commercials really have made me wonder if I should ask my doctor about them but I will not now! That is WONDERFUL NEWS Kathleen about being told to get off the drug that was hindering your efforts! :carrot:

good morning and it is a wondrous 56 degrees here and clear sky with lots of stars, I miss the early morning light so much but can't do anything about that except accept it, lol. Darkness is a big deterrent to me, I love light and losing it daily is something I have to just deal with. I am thankful for this mild weather so much.

Yes Kathleen I am slated to go back to the dreadful boss as the winter job, I am at fault for not trying to find something else, but it is so convenient because they release me for the summer for the good job. And maybe I can go into it with a different attitude.

HI to everyone!! and maybe I will even start an October excercise thread on Wednesday, to kick my butt into workout our regularly again. Have a great day!

Fiona W 09-30-2014 01:25 PM

On the subject of psych meds that cause weight gain: Yes!! I've been there! I weighed 140 pounds, which is close to my ideal weight, before I became Bipolar and started taking psych meds. I was put on every psych med under the sun that causes dramatic weight gain, and guess what: soon I was over 200 pounds, and a handful of years later I swelled to over 300 pounds. I've been working seriously since 2007 to get the psych-med weight back off: I lost over 100 pounds doing Jenny Craig, but then my husband got depressed and eventually lost his job, and all that stress piled the weight back on. I got up to 351 pounds before I got serious again and started on my current weight loss journey.

This is what I really want to say: I am still on multiple drugs that make a person crave sweets and gain weight, but I am losing weight anyway. I have embraced a sugar-free lifestyle. It has done wonders for my energy and my sense of control over my own destiny. I'm telling you: if you are on a psych med that makes you crave sweets or makes you gain weight for some other reason, you do not have to be a victim of that medication. You make the choices, not the drug. You can choose to lose weight despite being on that drug. Because you are the person in charge!

Lisa_C 09-30-2014 04:56 PM

Hello, just checking in.

VermontMom, it is great to see you again.

I am so tired today. I will post more another day. Today, I am wiped out.

Much love to all.

VermontMom 09-30-2014 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by fool4fotos:
...

Desperate times call for desperate measures....I headed to my unemployment office website and found a weekly support group. Went to my first meeting last Wed. That lead to two new temp employment agency contacts and a new resume format. Got back on track with my exercise and diet. I've lost 2 of the 4 lbs already and joined a Sept Challenge forum AND I'm waiting on 3 possible phone calls for temp work :carrot:

Have to say it feels pretty good to bounce back so quickly and know that I am the reason.... My message is to say don't give up! Learn the lesson and move on. Control what we can, which is to find the "right combo" no matter the problem. My present issues are PTSD and unemployment.

Wow Big congrats on identifying what was dragging you down, taking charge and charging ahead !!:D :carrot:

Fiona W 09-30-2014 07:08 PM

I'm doing good now, having a steady stream of zeros on my mood chart since Monday morning, but I had some real struggles at the end of last week and over the weekend. But it wasn't depression I was suffering from, it was mania! Yes, folks, I am bipolar, so my moods can swing up into +1 (which is fun for me, but annoying to those around me, since my tho'ts are racing very fast and I'm talking, talking, talking, talking) and +2 (very very jittery, freaking out, often gets into what's called a "mixed state" of +2 and -3 at the same time: yucky beyond belief).

I started swinging into the plus direction right after my Thursday session with my Qigong instructor. He taught me a new exercise, and for a few days there I was literally frightened to try it at home, because I thought it had made me manic. I used a lot of medications to chill myself out, though, and by Monday morning I finally got myself back on track. Now I'm doing the new exercise multiple times a day, and I love how much energy it gives me! Today it even kept me from getting hungry for lunch: it was weird, because usually afternoons are my worst time of day, when I just rest and try not to get depressed, but today, wow, today not only was I not hungry for lunch, I made a trip to the arts & crafts supply store and handled all the stress of the drive and that exasperating store which has tons of gaudy crap and not much in the way of the supplies I need. When I got home I was completely exhausted, but still in a happy frame of mind. I didn't eat lunch until 6 PM! I'm not sure that's necessarily a good thing, but I love all this Qi flowing through me, now that I've stopped going +1 and +2. =whew=

I have had full-blown manic episodes in the past, going up into +3 and +4, and let me tell you, I am as crazy as can be when that happens, a danger to myself and others, and super-super-miserable. It's not something to mess around with, which is why these recent +2 experiences had me quaking in my boots.

On Thursday I'm going to tell my Qigong instructor about my mania struggles over the weekend. He is so wise, I bet he'll be able to tell me what to do if that ever happens again.

IBelieveInMe2 09-30-2014 08:26 PM

Reminder!!!
 
THIS IS JUST A REMINDER THAT I WILL BE STARTING OUR NEW OCTOBER 2014 THREAD AT MIDNIGHT TONIGHT OR IN THE MORNING. PLEASE LOOK FOR UPS & DOWNS SUPPORT GROUP: OCTOBER 2014.


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