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Old 11-21-2011, 10:45 AM   #1  
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Default Ever wish sometimes that you could just die... so you'd no longer have to live a lie?

Rhyming not at all intended.

I'm such a fake and a failure. Everybody has been so proud of me. I'm 33 lbs down from my highest recorded weight of 220.

What nobody besides me realizes is that around 30 of those pounds were lost from my starving myself or purging everything I do eat.

And guess what? I don't want to stop. I'm finally in control of myself... and I can refuse food if I want to, I can get rid of food I did eat, etc.

But... I know I'm killing myself. I just... I don't even know why I'm saying anything on here. I guess maybe I have a need to tell the truth... to someone? I don't know.

All I really know is that I'm such a freaking failure who KEEPS messing everything up and I think that maybe it'd just be easier for everyone if I just took a bunch of pain pills and stopped thinking. Sure... there'd be pain and hurt for a few years... but that compared with long-term issues of me constantly being a problem, a thorn in their sides?

I don't know. I don't want to die. But sometimes I feel like it might be the best course of action... even though I know that's a lie... that I'm just giving myself an easy way out.

I am seeing a counselor once a week... my next session is tomorrow.
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I am so sorry you read you are feeling this low right now. Please tell me you feel that you can talk to your counselor about this.

The added pressure of feeling you are lying to friends and family isn't helpful right now.

I am always reluctant to comment on the real "pain" posts. I am not qualified and people in this level of pain are in a high risk state of mind.

Right away I looked at your min-goals and realized they might not be healthy for you. Your goals probably need to be more on the healthy mental state of being instead. Losing the weight doesn't usually take away the problems or the depression. And in your case it is adding stress because your external support system is focusing on the physical results; not what you need emotionally.

What do you think you need emotionally?

Can you conceptualize a course of action that involves you loving life regardless of pant size? This is exceptionally hard with profound depression.

Can you see your counselor sooner?

Is there ANYONE you can tell that can help you monitor your safety right now?
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Taking your own life is never the answer. Please speak to your counselor tomorrow about these feelings and about your eating habits.

I've been there. I almost tried to take my own life, during a hard time in my life. Life is hard and depression sucks, but please believe that your life is worth living! People would not be better off without you. I know it can be hard to see that.

Please get the help you need and deserve. You are worth it!
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I can't see the counselor any sooner. It's tomorrow afternoon. It's the college campus counseling center... so yeah... they're pretty booked this time of year.

I don't think I'm going to be doing anything stupid... I keep thinking it... but that's generally just what it is... just thoughts. Everyone in my hall is out at class or whatever. And I'm working on cleaning my room, then I have chemistry to study and some homework to do for my honors class. So... that should help take my mind off of stuff.

As for what I need emotionally... I don't know. My dog... my older brother. Both of which I won't get to see until Wednesday at the earliest. Or my mom and dad (which is weird because they're also some of the cause of my stress), or my little brother... who I won't get to see until June. So... yeah.

Thanks... I just... I don't know. I just need to accomplish actually cleaning up my room and getting everything physically together... that always seems to help... at least some.

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Old 11-21-2011, 11:24 AM   #5  
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Maybe you need to get another counselor, do not delay you are doing this for you, not the counselors convenience.
Please check back with us tomorrow.
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If you call and explain your situation to the couceller office I'm SURE they can sneak you in before tommorow afternoon. You need this.

And many many many hugs your way. There's so many of us who have been there done that and it will get better. Just stay strong hun!
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Old 11-21-2011, 12:21 PM   #7  
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I would... but I also just don't have time. I have to get my chemistry done before tomorrow morning (my test is at 9:25 AM), and I have math and a honors seminar... i just don't have time to even take an extra hour to go to the counseling center. I can make it until tomorrow. This isn't the lowest I've been before. Thanks guys. I really do appreciate it. I'm starting to feel a bit better... I've been cleaning my room. Broke a cup (it fell off, I grabbed it and slammed it against the side of the nightstand), and burst into tears... which I hadn't done in quite a while. So... I think that the physical release is helping some... that and cleaning. Which I'm doing while studying chemistry... I have an A in that class... and I can't lose it.

I have two more days of classes... and then an interview... and then I can go and spend 5 days walking in the woods behind my grandparents' house and hugging my dog close to me.
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Old 11-21-2011, 07:56 PM   #8  
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Depression lies. http://www.zazzle.com/depression_lie...78580514733337

Also, I found this book and it's CD with meditations so helpful. I never felt comfortable going to a therapist about my depression, but this book that I could work on whenever I needed, with the meditations I could listen to whenever really really helped me.

http://www.amazon.com/Mindfulness-Ac...1928880&sr=8-4
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Good morning, I am just checking in with you.

Hopefully you get to go home from college for the Thanksgiving break. It seems like a lot of things you are missing or that you draw strength from are at home. Are you in your first year of college? That can be a really exciting time and a really challenging time.

IF you get a chance and IF you think your mom and dad can rally you - consider telling them what is going on. I would always prefer that people can talk to their parents but some of us come from parents who have done us more damage than we can do ourselves.

The reason I was thinking about this morning is that if they are the ones super excited for you but don't understand at what health cost you are dropping the weight it might be helpful for them to know. Then all focus can get off the pounds and the dress sizes and instead move onto a healthy relationship with food which is what you will need in the long run to live a very healthy and content life.

Pay attention to the stories on this site, especially the older members with a history of unhealthy dieting. You have a great opportunity to learn much younger than some people.

I hope your counselor is very helpful and qualified and gave you some more tools to work with.

Hang in there and have a wonderful day.
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Old 11-22-2011, 09:57 AM   #11  
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I'm in my first year of college, yes. But not my first year living away from my parents... but neither of those times turned out well either. In 9th grade I had gone to Germany for boarding school (it was the best option for my education considering we lived in Serbia, and my older brother was there and doing great... so yeah). The depression got pretty bad there, so I ended up going back to Serbia. 10th grade was spent in Serbia, but that wasn't exactly easy peasy either... that was the year that a LOT happened with my parent's mission organization... so...... yeah. And then the next year was spent in the USA... in a new school... didn't know anybody... but...it was a good year. Then had to move again, and spent six months with my grandparents... but that ended not so well either... and my mom came and surprised me, and so on. And then spent six more months with them and in therapy.

And now... college.

I know that my eating and dieting habits aren't healthy. I mentally know that... and that it's not helping my mental health or physical health... and overall... just... bad.

I mostly just don't want to tell my parents because they have enough to deal with... and I've already been through so much... so to be going BACK through it all... for the fourth time in four years (it's always at about the same time of year too)... I just don't want to put them through that... which is why I'm trying to figure out my triggers and everything here... with me... because I can't keep relying on them to fix all my problems. Because obviously... it's not fixing them.

I get to go see my grandparents, my dog, cousins, and my older brother at Thanksgiving. And I might sit down and talk to him about it... I'm going to be spending Christmas vacation with him... and he's going to school to be a counselor for teens like me and him (TCKs, Third Culture Kids). So... maybe. I don't know.

Thanks. I just have to go take my chem test... I'm going to go back to sleep for a bit (I woke up at 5 this morning after going to sleep at midnight... my usual bedtime... but I woke up FAR earlier than usual to study my chemistry some more), and then I have my appointment at 1... I think. I'll have to look again at my schedule... but I think that's what time it's at.

I have been able to keep down a couple meals yesterday... but they were still VERY small meals. Yes... I am gluten intolerant and I'm a vegan... but there's still food I can eat... so... yeah.

Thanks.
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Good morning -

You know, when I read your post this morning I think you have a lot more self-reflection and self-awareness than you give yourself credit for. It can take some adults years into adulthood to realize the patterns of their own depression. You have already nailed that it is hard on you when you move and hard on your family during this time of year (seasonal? holidays?).

Not to Pollyanna up your situation - but I think you have some positives here. You have had a lot of instability in your teen-life and now entering young adulthood you are just at the beginnings of figuring out how to make a stable life of your own. Not easy stuff.

I am glad you were able to eat a couple of small meals. Yes, one can totally eat junky as a vegan, but it can also be a healthy avenue to less processed foods. It is one of the balances you will have to explore, however the starving and purging should be your immediate priority.

Have a great thanksgiving with the family you do get to see and hopefully your chem test went well.
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I hope my test went well... O_O I'm just praying for a B... I need an A in that class... otherwise I lose a 7k per year scholarship... or at least am put on "probation", which I do NOT want to happen. So... I have an A currently... but any less than a B and I could lose that. And since it's a 4 hour course... and I'm taking 16 hours... that could potentially ruin me.

But yeah.

Thanks... I have a tendancy to think... a LOT. Which I guess is both a good thing and part of my problem. Because while I tend to think myself out of something bad, or begin to see patterns, etc... I can also end up spending hours mulling over one or two specific things.

As for the whole vegan and gluten free thing... the most "junky" I've gotten so far has been french fries... and that was mostly because I was craving something with carbs and our dining hall doesn't usually have other potato meals... and the only other carbs (at least that I could think of) was bread.... which I can't have. But mostly I've been eating salads or a "fresh" stir-fry (which I'm probably going to go get some of before I go to the counseling center).

I have a few projects to do today... working on a crocheted Night Fury for my roommate... I have a couple Christmas gifts to finish over the next few weeks, and a bracelet that was an order from someone. Just recieved the beads and charms she wants on it.

So... I'm working on keeping the food down... I did purge yesterday... again. Which is annoying... because I feel both horrible that I gave in to purging... but horrible because I ate... but good because of both of those things... so... urgh. So mixed up.

So... yeah.

Thanks.
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Old 11-23-2011, 12:10 AM   #14  
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I know exactly what that's like. Okay, not exactly, but pretty darn close. And everything I just read from you is just like how I was only 3 years ago. I was starving myself and purging whatever I ate and I loved it. At least I thought I loved it. I loved the control I had from it. But I started missing small things. Like birthday parties, girls night out, family dinners. Since all of those things revolved in someway around food I did whatever I could to avoid them. I was so lonely because I was always hiding.

I always got compliments on my weight loss. When an already skinny girl starves herself and drops twenty pounds people worry. But when an overweight girl does the same thing and loses twenty pounds they applaud her. I loved that people could see a difference but a very small part of me was pissed off that they didn't figure out how I was doing it. I of course could never admit it because that would mean I'd have to admit I had a problem. I knew that I had a problem because otherwise I wouldn't feel so guilty all the time.

No one really knew about my issue with food. Not even my therapist or doctors. Some close family and friends I think had an idea but nothing substantial and I think part of that was that I didn't look ill. I also had so many other problems in my life that my food issues were completely eclipsed by them. I was a cutter with a number of suicide attempts in my past.

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All I really know is that I'm such a freaking failure who KEEPS messing everything up and I think that maybe it'd just be easier for everyone if I just took a bunch of pain pills and stopped thinking. Sure... there'd be pain and hurt for a few years... but that compared with long-term issues of me constantly being a problem, a thorn in their sides?

I don't know. I don't want to die. But sometimes I feel like it might be the best course of action... even though I know that's a lie... that I'm just giving myself an easy way out.
I thought that too. I was in and out of hospitals. I flunked my junior year of high school and after two month of repeating it I dropped out. I was an absolute ***** to be around most days. I was a constant time bomb and it got to a point where I think even my mom (though she will probably never admit it) would have found some relief if I died. I didn't want to die but I just wanted everything to stop. I wanted to pull a Snow White. Just lay down and fall asleep until the day would come when life was better and my prince would come wake me up from this nightmare. I was exhausted. I didn't want to fight anymore. I felt bad for the pain I was putting my family through, I wanted them to be proud of me but all I kept doing was failing. I felt like my heart and my mind were constantly being torn in different directions. By March of 2009 I was completely lost. Everything was so chaotic in my mind. I couldn't tell up from down or whether I wanted to live or die.

By the time I drove my car into the guardrail I wouldn't have been able to tell you right from wrong because I let everything get so messed up. That day did I not only come real close to killing myself but I came really close to killing others as well. If anyone had asked me years ago if I thought I would be capable of something like that I probably would have laughed at them and said no. But it did happen. I spent four months in the state psychiatric hospital.

It wasn't until a couple months after I was released that I finally made the decision to change my life. I could have hid behind my diagnosis and blamed all my problems on that. But when it comes down to it, I'm the one who makes choices. And you know what? I'm happy. I still struggle but it's been over two years and I love every moment of my life, including my crazy side. I am proud of my past. Do I cringe when I look back at some of it? Uh yeah, a LOT!! But I'm strong now. I thank God for the pain I went through because it's made who I am today. I would never have thought that just a couple of years ago. If I told myself back then who I'd become today I would have called myself a liar.

Today I am a GED recipient, a college student who made the dean's list last year. That's right, I'm bragging about that because not many on that list could have said they dropped out of high school their junior year. I know what I want to do with my life. I want to become an art therapist and help those just like me. I am someone who still struggles with food but I control it and not it controlling me. (Don't believe the lie that just because you control what goes into your mouth that you have control over food.) I am someone who is worthy of love.

I know that one day you will be in my place, with a story like mine and be able to share it with another who was once just like us. I can tell you hope is there, just hold on tight and one day things will get better but I know that most likely you won't believe me because I've been there too. But as someone who has made it to light at the end of the tunnel, I'm yelling back to you and saying it's okay, hope is real.
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Well... because I posted it on here... and my mom's apparently been reading my forums again... she knows all about it.

On one hand... I'm relieved that I don't HAVE to lie... but I'm also very annoyed. Sure... I posted it on a public forum, my own fault. But she never outright said anything to me. However... it was completely and utterly obvious... since she stated back to me almost everything I said on here. But she's still just "if you need to talk".

Look, mom, if you're reading this... please understand that it's not that I CAN'T tell you... it's that I WON'T tell you. It has nothing to do with love, or trust... but because there are times where I have to figure stuff out WITHOUT you. Be assured that I am NOT suicidal... and it's been two full days so far where I've eaten normal meals and not thrown up a thing. Maybe it was a phase. Maybe it's stuck in my head. But I do NOT want to go spilling my guts to you. Especially since I can't even formulate anything in my own head anyways... and especially not over the phone. But nor does that mean that when I go visit y'all this Christmas that I want to spend several hours talking about what I talk about in any sort of therapy session. It's MY business. MY issues. Sure... care. Never said you couldn't. But also realize that if I say I don't want to talk about it... then take that as an answer. That I don't want to talk about it.
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