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Old 05-09-2006, 11:16 PM   #1  
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I've heard that when losing weight. a person will eventually get to a point where there body is at the lowest weight it wants to go....

I am not sure if this is true or not, but assuming that it is; Can a person's body be at its lowest point although they may still be overweight or considered obese? Or is there body only going to be at its lowest weight once it's in (whats considered) the "healthy" range?
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Old 05-10-2006, 06:54 AM   #2  
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Everyone is different. I do not think that a person "cannot lose" any more weight just because they have plateaued at 180 pounds after losing a good 40 or so, but sometimes when someone is stuck at a lower weight, such as 127...or 141...or 136...that sometimes, depending on their height and weight, their body may be telling them that this is the "right" weight for them. If someone still has a decent amount to lose to be healthy (like the 180 pound woman, assuming she is of average height.) then usually the key is that she needs to revamp her exercise routine, or make a change somewhere in her diet.

The doctor's charts of healthy weight ranges are only part of the story, though. They don't account much for physical fitness-really athletic people cannot fit into those molds. There are really, really fit women here who have low body fat and higher muscle mass who weigh 130 and wear a size 2, or weigh 145 and can wear a size 5/6....where a normal person may wear a size or two larger at that same weight/height.

Also, age and other factors are a big thing as well. There are women who were 116 when they were 18 years old, and they think that that is the "perfect" weight for them...but truly, after having 2 children and aging 20 years-at age 38, 116 is now an "unattainable" weight for them and they most likely will never see 116 again-no matter how much they want to. 125 or 130 may be a more reasonable weight goal. The same goes with other weights-I was about 130 when I was in my late teens...and I am now 30 and expecting my third child. I will most likely never see 130 again, so I am aiming for around 140-145 after the baby is born. (I am 5'7")

I personally would not get focused on the scale alone...use clothing size as a guide-or take your measurements. The fitter you are (exercise is key!!!) the more you can actually weigh, but take up less space. No one is going to know if you are 115 pounds, or 145 pounds unless you tell them-they will just notice your "size". If you are getting smaller and fitter, then the actual scale weight really doesn't matter all that much.
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I've heard that when losing weight. a person will eventually get to a point where there body is at the lowest weight it wants to go....

I've actually been wondering this for awhile. I've been in a plateau for over 2 months now. I am far from being in the healthy range for my height and still have alot I could lose. But I'm trying new things and trying to be patient while I wait for my weight to start dropping again.

I will be trying to up my exercise this week as well as uping my calories. If that doesn't work by the end of the month, I don't know what I'll do. Actually I'll probably go to see my nutritionist again. I've actually started to think that maybe my body just isn't meant to be thin. I've been overweight since 3rd grade. Maybe I just need to get used to my body the way it is now.

The theory you are wondering about seems to be happening to me.
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Old 05-10-2006, 10:00 AM   #4  
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It would actually help me greatly with giving you actual suggestions on what to do, if I could know what you are eating calorie wise a day right now, and what your weekly exercise regime consists of as well.

If you will indulge me with the information, I would be glad to suggest something.
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Old 05-10-2006, 10:44 AM   #5  
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I think you were talking to me. If not, then I'm sorry. I'm also sorry for hijacking this thread.

In March I ate between 1200-1350 a day. That is pretty much what I ate in January and February when I was losing. I had just uped my workouts from workout tapes to working out on the treadmill. I was working out about 6 days a week. Then I stalled and tried different things. I cut my workouts back to 3-4 days a week, upped my calories to between 1300-1400 calories. I tried eating more protein, eating more veggies, etc. Nothing seemed to work. In the beginning of April I got the stomach flu and lost 6 lbs. But since then I've stalled out at 177 lbs. My exercise has gone from burning close to 500-600 calories a day to around 0-200. I have changed to calorie cycling and keeping them in a 1200-1500 range. I know I need to start exercising again. I'm actually about to get back on the treadmill here in a few mins.

I'm going to start back with exercising around 5 times a week again (trying to burn around 300 calories a day) and keep my calories in the range I'm doing now. I want to see how that is doing. Plus I want to try to get back in the habit of doing my strength training workout. I kinda miss it and know it can only help me.

I think maybe I lost a little desire to keep going strong like I was. Maybe I needed that little break from working so hard. But I still can't help but wonder if my body isn't trying to sabotage me somehow to make me give up so it can stay fat forever.
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Old 05-10-2006, 11:07 AM   #6  
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I think the calorie cycling of 1200-1500 will work for you-but you HAVE to get back into exercise if you want to see more results. You really do. I think that may be the root of the problem with your weight loss stall.

The first 10 pounds or so come off without too much effort in the exercise area-because dietary changes alone can do so much at first-but after a while, you really have to "work" for the rest of those lost pounds. If you are stalling-cutting down your workouts 99 1/2% of the time never works.

If you don't want to add more "time" to your daily workouts, as in someone with a limited schedule-then the key is to ramp up the intensity. If you normally walk 30 minutes on the treadmill, for instance, then after what you are doing becomes "not quite as tough" as it was in the beginning-then you need to increase your speed slightly. If someone walks 30 minutes at 2.5mph, then they end up walking 1.25 miles in that time...but if they notch up the speed to 3mph, then they walk 1.5 miles in that exact same time frame-burning more calories, and making their bodies work harder.

Our bodies adjust to our workouts as we become fitter. Walking 1 mile at 2.5mph might be a touch walk the first couple of weeks that we start exercising after a couple months of "couch potato-dome". But-as we become fitter, our bodies adapt-and we are going to have to keep pushing it if we want to see further results.
It is the same thing as a postal worker on a walking mail route-the first couple of days I bet, were tough. After a year on the job-they walk that same route and don't think twice about it. Their body has adapted to doing that every day.

The same goes with strength training. If you have a video that uses small hand weights-and you start out with 2 pound weights-it may be tough when you are not accustomed to exercise. Over time though, as it gets easier you should be switching to 3 pounds, then 5...and keep on challenging your body. If your workouts "stagnate" then so will your results. You have to push further as you get fitter, if you want to see further results.

I think in your particular case-it isn't so much your calorie level-but your exercise level.
I know what you mean, though, about not having the motivation like you did when you first started. Maybe you need to find something to motivate you further-is there anything frivolous that you really would like to have? (A certain pair of new shoes, etc.) Make a goal with yourself, that if you fire up your exercise regime and go from your current 177 down to 170 or something-that you will buy yourself those shoes.
Then, when you have reached that goal-find another one to motivate yourself with.
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Actually we might be buying our first house this fall so we are trying to stay away from buying things as much as we can. Rewards never really work for me anyway. But that's ok. I think I've focused too much on just the diet part of my new lifestyle and not enough on the fitness part. So I'm going to try to change that. I want to focus more on getting in shape, but still keep an eye on portion sizes and food choices.

I appreciate your help. I actually needed to talk to someone about this today. It's been something that has been bothering me. Hopefully I have enough motivation to keep up the exercise part until it can be at least a habit of thinking about it every day.
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Old 05-10-2006, 11:34 AM   #8  
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Aphil~ I love your posts.. You just are so up on this stuff, I did not post here , but I learned a lot.. Thanks.
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Old 05-10-2006, 01:00 PM   #9  
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I'd like to add too (though Aphil's posts as always, wonderful!) that you should pay attention to WHAT you eat. And maybe you already are, so maybe this is just chatter, but I know the more veggies and the more protein make up my calorie counts, the faster I lose. Eating 1200 calories of ice cream every day won't make me gain weight, but I think in many ways it slows the loss, and the protein will help if you are doing any kind of lifting (or even if you aren't) to nourish your muscles as you are losing fat. I'm not always the best practicer of what I preach, but I notice my weight loss goes on a lot better if I am eating more healthy and natural foods, rather than the other times where I am sneaking in carby and sugary snacks. This is just me though, thanks for the info Aphil, I love it!
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Aphil ~~ I really found your posts very interesting. I'm so glad I came across this thread, because I think your info will really help me get refocused and a good jumpstart again...thanks!
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