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  • thyroid and hair loss...
    havent had thyroid checked for 2 years but was normal then. and i would think with all the salad dressing alone, there would be no shortage of fat in my diet.


    but tonight is the first night in FOREVER that i havent been starving when i got home from work!

    i added some fiber 1 to the yogurt/preserves and added protein shake (2 scoops of protein) and about 20 almonds to pumpkin seeds. i am still full and i ate last at 7:30 and it is 11.

    and i didnt work out and i feel MUCH better. will see tomorrow what happens with more food and working out.

    thanks again!
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    i would think with all the salad dressing alone, there would be no shortage of fat in my diet.
    Is it regular salad dressing or low-cal? Also what kind of fat are you eating. The almonds will provide you with good, healthy fats, as will the peanut butter. If you can find a salad dressing that's a full fat one made with real olive oil, it's worth the calories. Sometimes on my salad, all I put is 1 T of olive oil and a shake of red wine vinegar.

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  • regular dressing. yesterday was newmans vinigrette. about 2 T or so.

    todays menu is:

    danish (visiting at prison where choices are LIMITED!)

    alterantive bagel w/ 1 T cream cheese
    protein shake (just before workout)

    lean cuisine panini
    broccoli slaw mixed with salad dressing
    orange
    yogurt w/SF preserves

    handful pumpkin seeds

    and just in case snacks....hard boiled egg and baby carrots

    i think that looks better?
  • I have to agree with the others--this isn't a "weight loss program" you're doing, it's starvation. You aren't getting enough protein... in fact, you're not getting enough of anything!

    Up at the top of this forum is a frequently asked questions sticky thread. I recommend that you read it. It will give you some ideas for where you should be starting.

    And you definitely cannot do that much exercise eating so little--not without bad effects. You'll burn lean body mass, such as the muscle you need to have. I'm not surprised your hair is falling out. You could also be damaging your bones and your heart. Yes, I mean for this to sound scary... This isn't the way to go, in my opinion.

    Please do some more research and find a program that is more reasonable!

    Jay
  • I have to agree with Jay ... I'm sorry and I don't mean to be harsh, but NO. What you're eating is NOT ENOUGH.

    You're still consuming less than 1000 calories a day. You're still not consuming enough protein. You're still not consuming enough fat.

    Honestly, it sounds to me like you're on the verge of an eating disorder. I'm not a doctor and it's not my place to diagnose you so I won't, but I am concerned about the statements you've made about being afraid to eat more, about the fact that you're having hair loss which is a sign of malnutrition, and about how very little you're eating.

    A handful of pumpkin seeds is NOT A MEAL.

    As near as I can tell you're eating one meal a day and a small variety of snacks the rest of the time.

    Please take Jay's advice and read the stickies at the top of the Calorie Counters forum. Think about the nutritional value of what you're eating. Stop "guesstimating" your calories and nutrients and start writing down or logging online what you eat so you can see what you're doing.

    You are going to hurt yourself if you keep doing what you're doing.

    Look, here's what I ate today: this came in at under 1400 calories:

    Breakfast: steel cut oats with cheese
    Lunch: 5 oz of tuna (the equivalent of 2 servings) w/ light mayo, dijon mustard, chopped celery, on a bed of baby spinach
    Snack: apple and v8 juice
    Dinner: HUGE amount of stirfry with broccoli, onions, carrots, celery, mushrooms, garlic, ginger, snow peas, and shrimp (no rice, just the veggies)
    Dessert: no sugar frozen yogurt thawed slightly and then whipped into a smoothie with cinnamon, ginger, and vanilla

    My total cals for the day were 1387. I didn't go to the gym today, so I'm ok with that. If I'd gone to the gym, I'd have had another snack in the afternoon (a protein shake post workout) for 130 cals, and I might even have added 1/2 cup of brown rice another 120 or so calories.

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  • ok... i hear you! but here are the calories i add up:danish 350
    bagel 110
    cream cheese 100
    shake 100
    panini 340
    broccoli slaw 20
    dressing 150
    banana 100
    yogurt 120
    preserves 100
    eggs 160
    mayo 50

    and i add up 1700. so that is not enough?
  • I'm not sure where you're getting your figures, but I come up with something different - and I'm assuming that you're eating full fat cream cheese, full fat yogurt, full fat dressing, and full fat mayo. If you're eating the light or fat free versions of any of those, you're coming up with significantly fewer calories. Probably about 150 to 200 fewer calories if you're eating diet versions of these.

    I put everything you described into my Daily Plate and came up with a hair under 1000 calories w/out the danish. The danish could have added anywhere from 200 to 500 calories, but although it does raise your calories, I have to discount it for having no nutritional value, just lots of fat and lots of sugar.

    But beside that, there isn't a good balance of nutrients here. For the amount of exercise you're doing, you're NOT fueling your body well.

    You need a solid balance of complex carbs / proteins / fats to provide the nutrition for the amount of activity you're doing.

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  • i got the calories from the back of the containers!

    plain yogurt 120 for 1 cup
    SF preserves
    danish said 340
    salad dressing was full fat caeser and there was about 2 T on slaw.

    and i usually wouldnt have had danish at all but also (truthfully) would have had nothing so i know i need more. so i just ate 2 T of peanut butter.
  • ok...for tomorrow i will plan on:

    bagel with sausage patty and 1 egg

    protein shake with 2 scoops- 150 calories from jar of powder

    big salad with tuna (3 oz can) and dressing

    orange

    carrots and celery with peanut butter

    yogurt with cocoa (hersheys powdered from baking aisle)

    bagel 110
    sausage 200
    egg 80
    shake 150
    salad 100
    dressing 150
    tuna 250
    orange 100
    vegs 25
    peanut butter 100
    yogurt 100
    cocoa 40

    total
    1405 not including butter to cook with

    any suggestions from here?

    this is so bizarre that i need to eat more. makes me shake my head.

    thanks for helping me.
  • Have you always been a two meal a day person, or is that for diet purposes?
  • not for dieting at all. i work a weird work schedule. it is 10 am here and i just got up. i dont go to work till 3 and will go work out right before. i work from 3 to 10 and have two 15 min breaks and one 30 min. i eat at all those breaks but due to time limitations, it has to be a small meal (or snack depending on how you see it). on my days off, i eat differently. i usually cook on first day and have leftovers next day. this week will be SW chicken corn chowder. never made it but it sounds yummo!