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Old 06-16-2007, 05:40 PM   #16  
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Wow, I wish I had trouble getting over 400 calories a day - haha! I struggle to stay at my target as it is. It seems like I never get full. ~_~
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Old 06-16-2007, 05:50 PM   #17  
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See though I think the reason I have gained so much is because I don't eat a whole lot and its such a low cal count. I think my body is in some type of survival mode where when ever I eat its all stored because I just do not have a high hungry drive. And because its storing the fat and everything else I am at my all time highest weight ever. I weighed 160 when I delivered my first son. i lost almost all the weight after that pregnancy but not after the ones that followed.
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Old 06-16-2007, 06:28 PM   #18  
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Is this your first time using fitday? It can be overwelming!

Hang in there. We'll help you. Do you like salad, raw vegetables? How about some protein? Chicken, cottage cheese?
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Old 06-16-2007, 06:44 PM   #19  
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Some of whats on Fitday seems pretty on target with whats on my labels. But yes its my first time using it.

I admit I am not a big veggie fan and certainly not raw. But I do like steamed veggies. Like broccoli, cauliflower, corn, green beans.

I do like chicken.
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Old 06-16-2007, 08:14 PM   #20  
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I do believe that folks can get into a metabolic slow down. Do you exercise?
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Old 06-16-2007, 08:29 PM   #21  
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Hi need2loseinGA!

First - welcome to Calorie Counters and 3FC! Congrats on starting your journey - the best thing you can do for yourself is ask questions! We all have learning to do on living healthy. For me the issue isn't so much that I don't know what is good for me as the difficulty in sticking to plan.

As to your question of how to bulk up your calories with good stuff...avocados are a tasty way to pack in calories quick...I dunno if you are eating natural peanut butter...but it's really good stuff and way better for you than the other stuff. A little too good sometimes... (I also have no problems going over my allotted calories on a near daily basis... ) Anyhoo..back to you.

Green beans are great, also asparagus, cauliflower, eggplant, celery, spinach, zucchini, mushrooms, sweet potatoes and on and on...I'm a big fan of salads but if you aren't into raw veggies there are still plenty to chose from. I eat limited amounts of corn, potatoes, they aren't bad, just higher calorie.

Lean proteins - tuna is a great choice - I buy the kind packed in water...also skinless chicken breast, ground turkey, I salmon, tilapia, egg beaters...

Enuf rambling. Keep asking questions...don't take all the answers too personally. It's hard on the web because you can't see who you are talking to. Sometimes things that are innocent come out differently than intended. This forum is a very supportive place.
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Old 06-16-2007, 08:32 PM   #22  
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wait I have more rambling to do. I want to say on logging what you eat - when I stop logging is when the scale starts creeping higher.

Also - yay for you on the exercise! Just keep building these good habits!!
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Old 06-16-2007, 09:23 PM   #23  
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I have a feeling you are not hungry because your metabolism is running so low. Once your body gets used to some fuel (frequently) this many times a day you will notice your appetite gradually increase. Don't be scared of that, it just means that your metabolism is running like it should be! I was the same way when I started (well I ate more food than you but not so frequently..i was so scared I'd gain weight instead of lose..)
OK, going to copy and paste what you wrote on page 1 with my menu:
Breakfast: 1cup high fiber cereal and 1/2 c milk
or 3oz cottage cheese and apple, blueberries, or peaches
or 3oz cottage cheese and sugar free yogurt, 1pc ww toast with lite margarine

**What about a pancake or 2 plain and some milk with 1/2 a banana. Because breakfast is a hard time for me and I really don't like (and can't eat) cereal. And I don't like cottage cheese. I might be able to handle the yogurt with some fresh fruits.**Yogurt and fruit would be a great breakfast, or you could have a piece of toast with 1T low sugar peanut butter and yogurt or a piece of fruit..or you could have egg substitute? if you like eggs.Banana is a fruit I would eat rarely, it is very high in fructose and can casue some people to have bad cravings. When I do eat banana, I only eat 1/2 a banana..

snack (bout 2-2.5 hours after breakfast)
1 apple/pear/plum/orange or
1 serving sugar free pudding or
1 high fiber homemade muffin
**Can it be any fruit?**Yes you could do sugar free bran with berries, raspberries, blueberries, or even apple

lunch: (about 2-2.5h after snack)
1 starchy thing (like whole wheat pita, 3/4c basmati, or 3/4c ww pasta)
low starch veggies
3-4 oz lean protein
**This I can do as well**

snack (about 2-3 hours after lunch)
same as first snack choices
i allot about 100 cals so occasionally I will have a few ritz instead or crispy minis)

supper: (about 2-2.5h after snack)
3-4oz lean protein
non starchy veggies
**What are some non starchy veggies?**Basically anything except corn, potatoes, beets, or winter squash.
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Old 06-16-2007, 11:09 PM   #24  
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Have you been to the doctor recently? I would go and make sure that you don't have some sort of metabolic issue (thyroid or something like that.)

What type of cereal are you eating that gives you pain? You could have a gluten intolerance (it's quite common and only takes a simple blood test) or a grain allergy. Cereal shouldn't give you pain! That might be something to mention to a doctor too.

That said. I like pancakes too! I do try to get whole grains in them though (they are healthier that way.) I see nothing wrong with having pancakes at breakfast, but you may want to get protein in there too (Like Natalia suggested.) Since you seem to like PB why not put some on your pancake? I've been doing that since I was a kid except now I don't pour syrup over it.

I eat a lot of fruit! I love fruit. I eat bananas, berries of all kinds, oranges, apples, apricots, peaches, cherries, well actually I like everything except kumquats (yuck!) Berries and apples are especially good to get some fiber in.

I know all of this can seem overwhelming! Everyone here is very supportive, so keep asking questions! Just try to work on it a little everyday and eventually you will get to where you want to be. Change doesn't happen overnight, but if you keep on it, it'll happen. You are already doing a great job logging your food into fitday and asking questions around here!
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Old 06-17-2007, 12:44 AM   #25  
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Oh and yes I just looked at my loaf of white bread its 60 cal per slice.

Its not that I won't eat cereal I can unless I wanna be in pain.

Listen I am asking for help here and reading the reponse from baffled makes me wanna cry. I am try here. I am sorry I don't eat a ton of food a day thats hard for me to do. But if increasing calories with better food will help me lose some weight I will do everything I can to get there.
Please don't feel bad- baffled is just trying to help you. I think what she's wondering is where your appetite is, and if there is the possibility of a medical problem going on.

When was the last time you had a complete physical? Any chance of gall bladder/colon problems? I would rule this out first with my doctor before worrying about losing weight. If cereal is hurting you while eating it, then something is wrong in the colon or stomach. Do you get upset stomachs? Heart burn? Cramping? Please, please talk to your doctor about this. It may be nothing at all, but as zenor said, cereal shouldn't hurt you, unless you have a gluten problem or perhaps the fiber is upsetting your system.

If everything checks out ok at the doctors, I would add small meals so they don't overwhelm you. Also, are you a highly stressed person? My sister and niece can't eat when their upset, stressed out or overwhelmed. I encourage them on the phone to take a small bite of something every half of an hour, then fifteen minutes, then ten, until their appetite comes back.
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Old 06-17-2007, 01:47 AM   #26  
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Its not that my body hurts when I eat cereal it my teeth. I have bad teeth but thats another topic for another day. Thats why I can't eat cereal.

Thanks for the advice and suggestions. I don't have any stomach issues. No heartburn or anything like that. And yeah I do stay stressed. I have the boys 7, 5, 3 yrs old.
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How about oatmeal?
I don't have the magazine handy here but, off the top of my head, here's some things that will help get your metabolism going....

eating small meals frequently
exercise ... even walking
building muscle
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Old 06-17-2007, 12:13 PM   #28  
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One thing I notice when you're talking about the foods you eat are that the nutrition isn't there. For example white bread is pretty much just plain 'ole empty calories. On the other hand a whole grain wheat bread has a lot more nutritional value for your body...plus it also tends to have more calories so you can be getting more calories in too. Switch your white rice for brown rice, find a whole wheat pancake (Eggo's makes a whole grain frozen waffle which I eat regularly for breakfast).

Veggies are hard for me to get in too, I don't like them much raw, or even cooked plain, however I looooove salad! Maybe find a good non-creamy low fat dressing and pile some into a salad? Also veggies roasted in the oven with lots of herbs and spices are a great way to make them yummier.
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Old 06-17-2007, 12:30 PM   #29  
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Hey there. I'm sorry for upsetting you--I guess I wasn't careful enough with my tone. I was trying to be helpful. (Although I do have a strong tyrant streak in my personality--it emerges periodically ) Calorie-counting and food logging is complicated in the beginning and it can take a while to figure out an eating plan that works for you. That said, I never understand it when someone who is overweight and wants to lose weight claims that they don't need more than 800 calories a day to feel full and can't eat another calorie. It completely befuddles me. I personally gain weight and become fat because I love to eat and sometimes fail to exercise enough discipline!

I think the others are right that a visit to the doctor might be in order.

One of the main things I wanted you to take away from my original post is that it is important to log your calories correctly based on the foods you are actually eating and not on Fitday generics wherever possible. There can be a huge difference between brands of foods and it can be very easy to underestimate the number of calories you are consuming. Take the gravy you had for dinner last night. I don't know what kind of gravy you are eating, whether it's a packet thing or homemade, but unless it is some very particular packet gravy with almost no fat content, I find it very difficult to imagine that 5tbs of gravy could possibly be 14 calories--even Newman's low-cal salad dressing is 35 cals/2 tbs. (1/4 cup of rice is about 50). I'd want you to be certain about that, because when I make gravy, with meat drippings and stock, I figure there's probably at least 50-80 calories a tablespoon because it is mostly fat and drippings. It ain't health food I could be completely wrong and you may have found a great fat-free gravy, but I just want you to be certain that you really are eating as few calories a day as you think you are. (Also, you weighed that pork chop, right?) It's really easy to underestimate calories as you will see if you read back through the posts at 3FC from people who think they are eating low-cal but are misjudging their intake and can't figure out why they're not losing!

And finally, I stand by my claim that more fiber, more veggies and more lean proteins are in order! Oatmeal is a great idea for breakfast (someone around here has a recipe for oatmeal pancakes--it might be the perfect way to get some more fiber into your breakfast!), as is fruit and yogurt. Part of the reason your original post and Fitday troubled me is because you are feeling full on white bread and peanut butter, not on veggies and fish and chicken. White bread and peanut butter will keep me full for about 30 minutes before I'm back in the kitchen scrounging for more food. You'll feel MUCH better overall if you figure out a way to eat more veggies and whole grains--more energy, fast weight loss, etc etc.

Oh, and cut yourself some slack--calorie counting is tricky and complicated and labor-intensive in the beginning. It really can take a while to figure it all out and become comfortable with it.

Good luck!
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