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Old 06-01-2003, 07:56 PM   #31  
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We watched Windtalkers on the Movie network this weekend. REALLY violent (well, it is a war movie), but quite an amazing story. I had no idea. If anyone hasn't seen it and gets the movie networks in Canada, it's worth watching. If only for 2 hours with Adam Beach. No, really...I was impressed with the role the Navajo played in the war.
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Old 06-01-2003, 08:33 PM   #32  
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Isn't the movie Secretary all about S&M... bondage etc.???
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Old 06-01-2003, 09:20 PM   #33  
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It has to do with S&M (very little bondage), but that isn't all it is about. It is NOT even close to a soft core porn movie.

It is actually about a relationship that evolves between two people who are not the norm. Sexuality is part of it, but so are their mental and emotional needs.

That is why I won't recommend it to most people. But if you are open to watching a very different kind of relationship, it is a great movie. The acting is excellent. It was actually nominated for a few Independent Spirit Awards (The indie movie version of the Oscars).

Anyway here is a review - Secretary


PS - I am not avocating this, or any other kind of relationship, for that matter. I just thought it was a cool movie. As for relationships - as long as it invloves consenting adults, and doesn't break the law, I don't care what people do in their bedrooms.

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Old 06-01-2003, 09:20 PM   #34  
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I think you are right Sojo- though I haven't seen that film yet.

We bought a couple of Dvd's on Friday....2 days in the Valley,
Knock around guys, The Ring and Signs...we'll have to have a movie night sometime soon.
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Old 06-01-2003, 10:13 PM   #35  
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NEMO>>>> Finding Nemo was absolutely cute.... If you haven't seen our website.... Reefcrazed- is simply that we are Reef crazed and they did a wonderful job of depicting the ocean and the reef... really cute. A must see for the family.
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I got Glory over the weekend, but haven't watched it yet.


Opps - I didn't notice we posted at the same time yesterday Mauvais. Yes Sojo was right.

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Old 06-03-2003, 02:15 PM   #37  
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Took my little niece and nephew to see Finding Nemo this weekend... cute and the kids loved it.

But here is the deal... why is it that in practically every Disney movie the mother is killed off or the child is orphaned? And why is it that in almost every Disney movie women are portrayed as beautiful and good or ugly and evil. Queens are always evil, kings and princes are good. Evil stepmothers. And the orphan/motherless thing really gets me. Here is a summary off the top of my head:

Bambi: mama killed & father delinquent
Cinderella: parents dead & evil stepmother
Snow White: not sure about parents, saved by male dwarves who she moves in with to cook and clean for... evil queen
Sleeping Beauty: evil witch, woman saved by prince
Rapunzel: not sure about the parent situation, evil queen and needs saving by prince
Little Mermaid: no mother, evil female creature, mean king father, runs away with prince
Lion King: father killed... for once a decent mom
Mulan: runs away from parents, disguises self as boy
Tarzan: orphaned in the jungle
Peter Pan: dad and kids abandon mother for adventure
Alice in Wonderland: adventure without parents
101 Dalmations: parents are there but of course evil fur wearing woman
The Jungle Book: orphaned boy
The Rescuers: girl kidnapped
Lilo & Stich: no parents, being raised by sister
Finding Nemo: mom killed, the few females in movie shown as silly, dumb, or dangerous
Aladdin: no parents I think, princess under control of king
Pinnochio: no mother
Beauty & the Beast: father imprisoned... not sure about mom

Ok... I'll stop now. Isn't that unbelievable?

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Yeah, Disney sucks.
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Old 06-03-2003, 04:20 PM   #39  
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Hmmm..kinda of dysfunctional and depressing ain't it?
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I love Disney. I know a lot of people don't like that there aren't proper mother, father, family relationships in most of their movies but then would there be trials and tribulations if the characters were in a functional family relationships? I mean, when's the last time you went to the movies to watch a happy family function correctly? I think it's great that Disney shows their main character in a very hard family situation and maybe subliminally it shows most kids that if the main character can "conqueor all" without a great family that they can do even better because of their family. Just my two cents.

I got to see Bruce Almighty! Very good film. Jim Carrey doesn't take over like he normally does. Nice plot. Great ending.
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Old 06-03-2003, 04:45 PM   #41  
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PS...
"Sleeping Beauty: not sure about parents, saved by male dwarves who she moves in with to cook and clean for... evil queen"

There are no dwarves in Sleeping Beauty. There's an evil witch and two parents and a prince that comes and saves her from an evil spell with a kiss (which is much tamer than the original story). I think you're thinking of Snow White.

They tamed a lot of their adaptions. In the original Cinderella, the sisters cut off their toes to fit into slippers, crows peck their eyes out. In the original Little Mermaid, she has to carve out the heart of the woman her prince fell in love with (which is not the witch) and when she doesn't, she turns to sea foam. Don't even get me started on Pocahontas (gets an STD), or Hunchback of ND.

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Old 06-03-2003, 05:36 PM   #42  
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Yup, I was thinking of Snow White not Sleeping Beauty (I'll fix it). Anyway, its not so much that the family has to be the traditional nuclear family, but it would be nice to show some sort of positive family relationships. There can still be tension and tribulation without the mom and dad missing, dead, or mean... I think Toy Story, Bug's Life, Ants, did a good job (off the top of my head). But you cannot deny that Disney usually portrays women in a negative way... they need saving, they must be beautiful to be happy, powerful women are evil, etc. Of course there are some exceptions. What's the latest Disney movie coming out.... Sinbad or something? The mighty pirate and thief is upset that there is a woman on board ("a ship is no place for a woman") and then of course she will prove him wrong. But why can't the woman just be strong and courageous and be accepted as such? Same with Mulan... she could only be powerful when she disguised herself as a male.

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Exactly!
Also, Disney is a great representative of the typical North-American blood-sucking corporation.
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It isn't Disney as much as the original stories. The original Grimms' tales are pretty graphic, and not PC.

I do happen to like Disney. Toy Story is my favorite. No strong females in that one either, but it is a cute buddy movie. But Andy (the kid) only has a mom. They never mention his dad.
As for evil and ugly, the evil men aren't that good looking either.

They are fun movies, and not even remotely like real life. There are no talking animals/plants/toys in real life. It is just pretend.

There are a lot of movies with out parents. Look at the Star Wars movies. Mother is dead (I think) and father is evil. Indiana Jones has a dad in one movie, but they don't get along, no mom. Harry Potter too.

Yes there are some movies that have a message, or at least a foot in reality, but most movies are intended for escapism.


Anyway, that is just my random thoughts...
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I just like songs and the thought I could be a beautiful princess. I think Disney has a bit of the "rescue" syndrome, and if you suffer from it you'll be greatly disappointed, because the only person that can save you is yourself. But there is something that appeals to my romantic side in, "I know you, I walked with you once upon a dream. I know you, the look in your eyes is such a familiar thing......"(Sleeping beauty is my favoite, if I had a daughter I was going to name her Aurora Rose, instead my husband got a boy so its Sebastian after Never Ending Story).

Watched 25th Hour. Spike Lee. I have to watch it again. I have alot to think about. I like movies that make me think.

First season of Xena is pretty cute too and recently out on DVD.

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