My problem with Twilight is Bella has nothing but Edward. If you have a boyfriend, cool, but that's it. That's the only thing that gives meaning to her life.
I agree, that and Bella is a whiny b!tch! But making a single individual, be it a romantic partner, child etc. is not healthy. You need to maintain an identity apart from them. What would happen if there was an unfortunate event and something happened to that person? You're isolated, you would have nowhere to turn. It's not healthy. I'm not against those you care about occupying a large part of your life, that's normal. But having nothing else besides that individual is not.
Shan - in the princess and the frog she continues to be kick a$$.
Remember - I read these books way before the teenagers had heard of them, I think I started right when the New Moon book came out, I didn't think they'd catch on as they did.
I was working at Barnes and Noble when Eclipse came out, and I had no idea what it was, only that little girls kept asking me for the first two books (and some moms) and we were always almost sold out. I also worked there when Breaking Dawn came out, only now i knew what it was, and I finally decided to buy them a month later, and then I read them like three months later.... And i liked them.... then read them again and hated them.
I never thought they'd catch on like they did. Oh well. Something else will come along.
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Stella, I'm glad to hear that she remains kick as$. I'm so sick of characters or females in general that totally give up on themselves, or their dreams for a guy. I've seen it happen to several of my friends and it bothers me. I girl I did my undergrad with, dropped out of law school because her finance didn't like the fact that she would be better educated and likely have a better job than him. She received a full ride scholarship but dropped out and now works as a receptionist. I couldn't imagine giving up on my dreams, just because they made someone else feel uncomfortable.
What????!!!! What kind of person would do that!!!!
SnowWolf, trust me I was a shocked as you! She met him part way through law school "they fell in love' and he promised to take care of her forever and ever." Basically the guy is an immature controlling as$, who is frightened by her success. After being together for a while, she had no opinions of her own consulted the guy for everything and couldn't do anything without his approval. He's not physically abusive, just insecure. Eventually he had her so worried about what effect being a lawyer and all the long hours she was working and would be working in the future would have on "them", that she had quit school.
Yeah, it's sad, and her parent's are pissed. But she believes they just don't understand how much they love each other and that people make sacrifices for the ones they love all the time. It's twisted and heartbreaking all at the same time.
I still see her on occasion, but I just can't understand her choices. But she says she's happy, so I choose to believe that. It's not what would make me happy, but to each their own I guess.....
I just...I don't know. I'm hearing what you are saying for her...oviously she really thinks that. But...but...I think ...she just gave into him. I just. Sorry, I'm stammering while typing. I guess in a way I'm a feminist, I just think that is so sad. It makes me want to smack them around alittle, maybe get thier blood to both of their brains. That's not a good guy!!! He's no good if he makes someone change like that!!! God!
I think she really really brainwashed herself, her 'love' for him has blinded her. I honestly think he wants a little windup toy that he can control, and that he is being extra careful to show 'love' to her so that he can continue on to make her a perfectly crafted doll just for him. Blah!!! Just my opinion, I'm scared for your friend. There is no reason NO LIFE THREATENING reason-I know he is insecure-but SUCK IT UP MAN! WUSS! it's like." Oh, hunny my plans for MY future is way more importent, I will support you, you can run along and stay home with the future kids. I don't want you to have to work." ...I guess I can see maybe he means it. But, what if she doesn't want to be with him anymore, she would need a job. and why not? Why can't she? What's so bad? ...sure can't see each other as much...but if your in love, do you think that will make you less in love? There is reasons for him to do that to her more then that! What about equal partnership! Please!!! "Making sacrofices...blah blah blah." WHAT ABOUT HIM???!!! HES NOT!!! I understand....but, but I just feel strongly for some reason. I wish I could...idk...smake him or something.
I think she is brainwashed. It's not going to work out, she's going to realize sometime. grrrrrr. Oh, sure...on 'them'? ugh. Sorry, I'm with you on this. I don't know why it disturbs me so much. I don't think they're in love. People in love don't act like that.
If someone had come up to me before I read Twilight and just told me what the book was about, I would have squealed and pounced into the nearest library. Dark, gothic romance about vampires -- sounds wonderful!
Read it -- it's actually very badly written. I found Bella unlikable -- obviously a Mary-Sue of the author. Edward wasn't convincing as a romantic interest. The rest was just repetition -- 'his angelic face' blah blah blah.
Meyer always says her book was inspired by stuff like Wuthering Heights, Pride and Prejudice and Romeo and Juliet. To me, Twilight read like she had swiped what she liked from character overviews in Cliff's Notes. I find it incredulous that she has a degree in English.
I expected the movies to completely make up for the books, like with The Devil Wears Prada (book was utter garbage, movie was entertaining and well-done). They haven't.
However, my mom and I went to see New Moon together. (She's the one into Twilight.) I thought that was much better. It was more of the romance that it needed to be in the first place. I still think Stewart needs to grow a lot more as an actress. Pattinson looked constipated the entire time (I hear sodium docusate is a cramp-free laxative!).
That being said, it's fun to hate the series. It's almost a whole new bandwagon. Twilite and Nightlight are on my "To Read" list. I've also spent long hours reading people's bad reviews of the books and the movies.
SnowWolf, I 100% get what you're saying and completely agree with it! I think brainwashing is the right term. She's not who she once was, her life, her focus revolves around him. He totally a little chicken who couldn't deal with a smart woman so he's manipulated her into this stepford paradody. It's sadand pathetic on so many levels and breaks my heart while pssing me off at the same time.
I agree about love. I think it should involve some compromise - but I will not change who am to please anyone. I may adjust how I get to my dream but I will not give up on it. Nor will I change it. Nor would I expect him to give up on his dreams or change who he is for me either.
She says she's happy and while I have my doubts I'll believe it. Sometimes I wonder she wants it to work because so many people are against it or if she's totally ok with her life now. It's not for me to judge, it's not what I want fir myself - but until she tells me otherwise I'll hope for the best & believe her
shantroy-People have to learn to live thier lives, right? sigh. I can't understand people like her. It's to robatic. Yeah, I totally agree with you. You have to at least believe that she is happy right? For her sake...just to hope that that's a good thing. I don't know how she can believe that's called happiness. She must really think he is speacel and the one. Who knows what goes on between them to make her feel that way. I think she may be stubbron and wants to show everyone that they are wrong. I don't think she is ok with her life right now, I think she is in denile-she is a very very good lier to herself. She believes her lie so much it comes true. Sorry, just my opinion. It seems so unnatural. Well, I just hope that her situation doesn't bog you down. She picked this, maybe she likes to be in wierd situations. Maybe she decided just not to care about life anymore, and let someone control it instead. But hey just focus on living your life to the fullest, I know how being concerned about others can have a draining effect on you. Oh, and I was picturing that too. The Stepfrod wifes.
Oh, and I was picturing that too. The Stepfrod wifes.
