100 lb. Club - Did anyone else see this on fox news this morning?




Bee20nine
01-26-2009, 02:21 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,482788,00.html

Obesity virus?!?!?! wtf? I am kinda angry about it actually.


Kae
01-26-2009, 02:26 PM
I only check the news long enough to get the weather and traffic in the morning... but I clicked on your link...

It sounds pretty ridiculous to me... "Watch out everyone! I'm contageous! You don't want to catch my fatness!"

time2lose
01-26-2009, 02:33 PM
That's our problem. We all caught a virus!!

Seriously, it sure sounds odd to me. However, our state legislature is considering increasing health insurance premiums for obese people. I think I will send my representative this link.!


Suzanne 3FC
01-26-2009, 02:45 PM
Oh great. I wonder how long it will be before the diet pill industry markets a "cure" for this :lol:

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foxxy511
01-26-2009, 03:01 PM
I did see this! It makes sense though. Fat cells are cells just like any other cells in the body. If other cells can become infected by viruses, mutate, and start forming defective cells, then it makes sense that fat cells could do it too. And I thought it was interesting that 1/3 of obese people have this virus. I think it just makes people more susceptible to gaining weight. I wonder if they can see if any non-obese people have this virus...now that would be interesting!

On a side note, I love Megyn Kelly. I think she's hilarious.

S.A.S.H
01-26-2009, 03:02 PM
Yeah...um...I have so much to say and not enough sarcasm to go around :lol:

nelie
01-26-2009, 03:03 PM
It doesn't appear as if a cure is needed as it implies that resistance is built within a couple months (up to 3 months it says). Also so it says 33% of obese people they tested it and 11% of thin people they tested had the virus? so... why are the thin people thin?

Although some of my weight gain came on pretty quick, I can't link my obesity to a 3 month span.

Fat Chick B Gone
01-26-2009, 03:11 PM
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:rofl::rofl:

kaplods
01-26-2009, 03:23 PM
I don't think there's anything to be angry or offended over, it's interesting research, and it's only one very tiny piece of a very large puzzle. I think a very serious flaw in weight loss research to this point has been an assumption that obesity has a single cause, and therefore a single treatment. I think that it's a bit like trying to find a cure for headaches, and treating all headaches the same regardless of whether caused by stress, migraine, sinus infection, brain tumor or blow to the head.

It's no wonder that no single treatment for obesity is effective, if the causes, and contributing factors are tremendously varied, as I suspect they are.

junebaby
01-26-2009, 03:25 PM
I think it is more of a way to pass the buck so to speak w/ accountablility. I would love to blame a mysterious virus for my love of unhealthy foods, but the truth is that I can't control it sometimes.

Daimere
01-26-2009, 03:31 PM
But most thin people who just want to drop a quick 10 will assume that they have the virus and will pay out the wazoo for a "cure."

kaplods
01-26-2009, 04:01 PM
I believe in information. I would find it offensive if after finding this viral connection, the researchers decided "we can't tell anyone about this, because some people may misconstrue or misuse the information." Assuming that people "can't handle the truth," now that I find offensive.

I don't think most overweight folks are stupid, except in desperation. Desperation makes a lot of otherwise sane folks do stupid things, not only in the weight arena but also in things like get-rich-quick or get-famous-quick schemes.

We've known there are genes that contribute to obesity, and that too was initially met with the fear that some folks would use "fat genes" as an excuse, and of course some folks do, but folks looking for an excuse always find one, and I doubt that having one more excuse available increases a person's likelihood to use them. I know the opposite also happens, because for most of my life, I thought there was something deeply wrong with me that my relationship with food and my weight was drastically different than any of my family members or anyone I knew. When I first heard the genetic factors, it started to make sense, that I possibly might have inherited a tendency towards obesity. I'm adopted and to follow the weight pattern in my family, you do see very clear family patterns. My sisters are my parents biokids and one has followed my mother's weight gain pattern (all in the hips in the late 20's) and my other sister has followed my father (slim all his life, at least until retirement). To me, the possibility of a genetic component did not inspire me to think, "I'm just naturally fat, and so there's no use fighting it, so I'll just eat whatever I want and lay on the couch all day - it's ok it's in my genes." Nope, it made me think, "Ohhh, maybe that's why this is so difficult for me, maybe that explains why I'm so darned, freakin' starving all the time, not because I'm crazy, weak, or lazy." It didn't prevent me from, and in fact inspired me to being willing to work harder, and cut myself a little more slack when I fell short.

I think it's like if you told one person that most folks learned to play the piano in a week, and another that it took years to become good at it, which kid do you think will give up after they've been playing for a month and still aren't very good.

I think understanding all the pieces, even if some people can misuse pieces of the puzzle, in the long run makes the situation better not worse.

Beautiful Ace
01-26-2009, 04:14 PM
Now I can use that as an excuse as well as big boned. GREAT! hahahaha.

nelie
01-26-2009, 04:30 PM
Kaplods, I agree information is good and actually for some reason this virus sounds familiar, maybe there was something similar found not too long ago or maybe these are the results of the finding?

Also, it might be that the virus affects those who were fat as children differently than those that are skinny versus those that got fat as adults. If the virus multiplies fat cells and I believe those that were obese as children have more fat cells than those that were obese as adults, then it might mean a greater gain in weight? It might also mean a 5 lb gain on a skinny person versus a 50 lb gain on an obese person. Who knows?

I think its interesting that they are finding things. Of course, would it mean that fat people would needed to be tested for the virus before entering a country? Or something similar? It does say its highly contagious.

kaplods
01-26-2009, 04:50 PM
I think they talked about that in the article. By the time you're fat, you've already recovered from the virus. The cold symptoms would be long gone, and the person would no longer be contagious by the time they gained any weight. While it is highly contagious, it's only a cold virus, so it's not generally something that would be tested for by any country - and they'd have to test anyone with cold symptoms, as whether they were currently fat would have no bearing on whether they could pass along the virus, since they'd only be contagious for a very short period, long before they became fat. Since there are thousands of cold viruses, I don't see there being a practical way to test everyone with a cold, for whether it's the specific strain that effects fat cells.

JayEll
01-26-2009, 05:12 PM
:corn:

Jay

TraceyElaine
01-26-2009, 05:29 PM
LMAO! I'd like to know who gave me this bug cuz I'd punch them out. LOL

fiberlover
01-26-2009, 05:33 PM
LMAO! I'd like to know who gave me this bug cuz I'd punch them out. LOL

LOL!
I know, I'd say "Cover your mouth next time":rofl:

seashell
01-26-2009, 06:18 PM
Im fat because I eat to much of the wrong thing. Can I please have a medical degree to hang on the wall now? I answered the question without wasting billions of dollars! Stupid doctors. DUH!!!

Slashnl
01-26-2009, 06:53 PM
I was more offended by the picture they had with it on the fox news website. It showed the back end of a very overweight person sitting on a folding type chair. The person was hanging over on both sides and through the back. I get that they are trying to make a point, but I thought the picture was in poor taste.

Daimere
01-26-2009, 07:00 PM
I was more offended by the picture they had with it on the fox news website. It showed the back end of a very overweight person sitting on a folding type chair. The person was hanging over on both sides and through the back. I get that they are trying to make a point, but I thought the picture was in poor taste.

That picture was in poor taste.

kaplods
01-26-2009, 07:25 PM
I agree the photo was a very poor choice. However, I do not feel that weight loss research is a waste of resources. Weight loss is often dismissed as being simple, and yet the success rate is so low, there's a lot more that may go into weight loss and maintenance than not "eating too much of the wrong things." Besides which, what are the wrong things? Without the research, I never would have found out what the "wrong things" for me were. I would have never considered low carb eating for me, because I'd heard how bad and dangerous it was, and there was some research to back that up. Newer research is showing that low carb dieting may not be right for some folks, and might be perfect for others (again which wouldn't be found without researchers finally considering that maybe all fat folks aren't fat for the same reason, and might need different approaches to lose weight). For folks of any weight, low carb (or at least low grain) may be the "right" diet for folks with autoimmune disease. The research is still out, and more is needed (but that my autoimmune disease slowed into a possible remission on a low carb diet, and some of the symptoms returned after carb binging around the holidays, certainly makes me wonder). Research also has suggested that folks (like me) with insulin resistance and/or fibromyalgia also feel better on low carb or low GI diets.

I never would have tried low carb dieting without my doctor's recommendation, and the research that backed him up, because low carb dieting does not have the reputation of being healthy for anyone. Without the research, I wouldn't have thought to try low carb dieting. My doctor recommended it for my insulin resistance, and I soon noticed that it definitely affected my fibromyalgia symptoms, so I wasn't surprised when I read that anectdotal and research evidence that fibromyalgia patients experience worse flares on high carb diets.

The research does make a difference. The fewer weight loss attempts a person has, probably the better - since there is research that suggests that each weight loss attempt might further lower metabolism. Also, statistically we know the more overweight a person is, the harder it is for them to get the weight off, and the less chance they have of keeping it off. It makes sense to nip weight gain in the bud early and prevent folks from getting on the obesity rollercoaster at all.

Some of the research may be silly, but we're still in obesity dark ages, compared to other research. We know more about drug addiction, pharmaceuticals and cancer than we do about obesity.

Raven
01-27-2009, 11:37 PM
The fact that some people may be more susceptible to weight gain and obesity -- because of a virus or other factors -- is important to effective treatment and to support modification of behavior. It's understanding and putting together the puzzle pieces that could make all the difference to a longer, healthier, more productive, and, yes, thinner, life.

lalique
01-28-2009, 05:03 AM
uhh...................


All I have to say about that is... W.... T.... F...

Sea
01-29-2009, 03:03 PM
What if we have baby pics to prove we were fat from birth?