[kk140]

Hi!
I just bought the restaurant guide from WW.

Today i went to Subway and had grilled chicken on a wrap instead of bread. In the book, it says that a 6 inch grilled chicken sub is 6 points and that the wrap bread is 2 points. Does that mean it was 6+2 points or does the 6 include the 2?
I counted it as 8 points, and i added 1 point for the honey mustard sauce (it says it in the book too).

What do you guys think?

[Thighs Be Gone]

I have noticed that the flatbread has more calories than the regular sub. I think you were right to count it @ 8.

[kiramira]

Here's a link from a comprehensive WW points site: I've put the link in to Subway. This isn't an official WW site, but a private site where someone has crunched the numbers, so take it for what it is worth. I think you are bang on the points, though:

http://www.dwlz.com/Restaurants/subway.html

Hope this helps!

Kira

[choices]

Originally Posted by kiramira

Here's a link from a comprehensive WW points site: I've put the link in to Subway. This isn't an official WW site, but a private site where someone has crunched the numbers, so take it for what it is worth. I think you are bang on the points, though:

http://www.dwlz.com/Restaurants/subway.html

Hope this helps!

Kira

Kira, you are such a help! Appreciate itchoices~

[kk140]

thank you!

[Qualera]

Actually, the points for the sandwiches include the bread. So you need to subtract the regular bread it comes with and add the flatbread.

The guide said 6 points. Dotties:

6" Subs-Under 6
Includes wheat bread/lettuce/tomatoes/onions/green peppers/pickles/olives
Oven Roasted Chicken Breast 6" Sub (330 cal/5 g fat/5 g fiber/48 g carbs) 6


Dottie's Says: 6" Wheat Bread (200 cal/2.5 g fat/3 g fiber/40 g carbs) 3.5

So 6 - 3.5 +2 = 4.5

That is what I would take for it, since the 6 counted the different bread.

[kiramira]

Hi there! Just to be a bit contrary, Dotties guide says a chicken wrap (not a chicken sub with the bread subtracted and a wrap added) is 9 points. It is listed as such down the list.
Our OP said that she had grilled chicken on a wrap...so 9 points is a good estimate, IMHO!
Kira

[LilyG]

DWLZ numbers are way off. Why would you use that when subway lists the NI?
You can even break it down at subway with the bread and every thing.

If doing so maybe you will see why DWLZ is sooooooo far off.

If its listed there don't you think the Restaurant would have a better NI for you?

The restaurant site is update more than DWLZ will ever be.

[kiramira]

We all have to find our own path, here. For me, I use DWLZ often as a quick reference, especially when I don't have the time nor inclination nor my WW materials to figure it out. And really, the number at the end of the day is essentially an estimate even if you go by the restaurant NI -- unless they measure out the dressings/etc with a tablespoon instead of pouring it on, you won't really know the exact number, and unless they actually count out the olives, you just don't really know for sure EXACTLY what you are getting because the difficulty comes in when things are handmade. It is hard to standardize a slosh of dressing or a smudge of mayo or a handful of olives, and this is the crux of the food industry's issues with regards to nutritional labelling of restaurant foods.

It just depends on how OCD you choose to be!!! I personally have better things to do, so I estimate using my manual (it too varies from the nutritional info of the restaurant) because I personally don't believe alot of what the restaurant NI says in any event:

http://www.nrn.com/breakingNews.aspx?id=364150

and

http://www.allbusiness.com/retail-tr.../758888-1.html

"Nutritional facts listed on a restaurant's Web site or brochure are generally not completely accurate"

So it really is up to you whether or not you take the restaurant data as dogma, or go for an estimate from either the NI, or the Dining Out guide, or an online website. And in the grand scheme of things, if you have overestimated, you'll be fine. If you've underestimated, your Flex points will take care of it.


I think our OP did a great job of figuring things out, and deserves a WHOOT for that, no?

Kira

[rowan108]

I love DWLZ. I've used it as a quick reference and I often go out there to look for new recipes. I figure as long as I'm writing down what I eat and practicing portion control everything else is just an estimate. If you see results what difference does it make. Maybe if I were stuck at a plateau it would be different.