[Satine]

I need another opinion on this, Tuesday I weighed in at 199 ( woo hoo, have been trying for a while to get under 200 ), so I thought I would go down to the next level of points ( 22-27 I think ), anyway yesterday and today I weighed in at 201, and seem to be stuck there for a little while...my question is should I go ahead and go down to the 199 level to get things going again or wait till I see 199 again ( I realize I could be just holding water, weigh fluctuates from day to day ). Any help would be appreciated, thanks!!

[Satine]

C'mon ... 27 views and no one has an opinion...I know you girls better than that....

[Ivanna B. Skinny]

Ok, I dont go to the WW meetings, or even know anyone who presently is. Im just kind of doing WW points by myself and hoping for the best. If I were in your spot, I'd go ahead and move down a level. Maybe fewer calories is what you need to break that plateau youve hit. Bye the way... CONGRATULATIONS!!!

[Satine]

THanks Ivanna - I think that is what I am going to do...have a great weekend!!

[barbygirl43]

I too would go down to the lower levels. (I currently can have up to 31 and only hit in my points range 2-3 days a week. The rest of the time is between 24-26 points. I'm just not hungry enough to want more food so I refuse to eat just to get in a couple of points.
If you still don't see results and are fluctuating between those couple of pounds, you might look into the Wendie plan.

[Satine]

Thanks Dawnyal - what is the Wendie plan?

[barbygirl43]

Here is a link to when I found it a couple of years ago.
http://b14.************/flightenup783...opicID=3.topic
There is also several threads here on 3FC that talks about it. I'm not sure how you factor in your flex points with it though.

[FrannieMae]

Dawnyal, thanks for posting this - it's very interesting!

[Deets]

Dawnyal,
This article is really "food for thought!"
Thanks so much for posting it.

[Satine]

Thanks Dawnyal...that was interesting to read and it does make sense, I tend to lose more on the weeks where I cheated at least once or twice....hmmmmm

[Kelly_S]

I WOULDN'T GO DOWN! Sometimes our bodies just hit a spot and it is hard to get past and usually it is a point where we spent some time while we were gaining. You don't consistently gain and you don't consistently lose. That is just the way our bodies work.

W/W is medically researched and proven that you can and will lose. Things you need to look at when you hit a stall or plateau are:

1) Where in your points range are you eating? Most people find they lose better when eating Target + Flex and sometimes Activity too. Especially if you are exercising you need to eat toward a higher end and not a lower end. The reason is because your body thinks it is starving and slows down your metabolism and holds on to the calories you intake.

2) What are you spending your points on? Review the POINTSPIES (Also make sure you get in some REAL fat (butter, margarine, mayo, real salad dressing, etc). I had subconsciously removed almost all fat from my diet and had plateaued for SIX (count them 6) months. Make sure you get in some fat.

3) Are you drinking your water?

4) Are you eating alot of processed foods (canned, frozen, etc.) which contain alot of sodium which causes water retention. What about diet sodas? They can cause bloating and water rentention.

5) Are you exercising? Have you taken your measurements to see if you are building muscle while losing? Remember muscle weighs 2.2 times more than fat volume for volume (this means for a 3”x3” piece of muscle and a 3”x3” piece of fat the muscle will be 2.2 times heavier). If you are exercising remember to eat high in your point range.

6) Are you journaling? This includes every BLT (bite, lick and taste). Those BLTs can add up in 'hidden' points. My leader suggested for each BLT or freebie to put a tick mark in your journal and for each 4-5 add 1 point to your day.

7) Are you calculating points correctly? Ninety percent of new members don't count points correctly. I have a favorite muffin and until last week (I've been on program for almost 2 years) I just realized my 3 point muffin is really 6 points because it is 2 servings. Make sure you use the nutritional information rather than the 'generic' list W/W puts out. You'll find alot of differences.

Look at how you are eating compared to the POINTS PIES W/W Provides:

Points Pies

Balanced (under 250 pounds)

Complex Carbs/Grain Based Foods – 8-9 points a day
Protein-rich Foods – 6-7 points a day
Fruits and Veggies – 0-3 points a day
Fats, added sugars – 2-3 points a day
Milk and Milk Products – 4-6 points a day

20-28 points a day

Higher Protein (under 250 pounds)

Complex Carbs/Grain Based Foods – 5-6 points a day
Protein-rich Foods – 9-11 points a day
Fruits and Veggies – 0-1 points a day
Fats, added sugars – 2-4 points a day
Milk and Milk Products – 4-6 points a day

20-28 points a day

Higher Carb (under 250 pounds)

Complex Carbs/Grain Based Foods – 9-10 points a day
Protein-rich Foods – 5-7 points a day
Fruits and Veggies – 1-3 points a day
Fats, added sugars – 1-2 points a day
Milk and Milk Products – 4-6 points a day

20-28 points a day

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Balanced (over 250 pounds)

Complex Carbs/Grain Based Foods – 11 points a day
Protein-rich Foods – 10 points a day
Fruits and Veggies – 3-4 points a day
Fats, added sugars – 2-3 points a day
Milk and Milk Products – 4-6 points a day

30-34 points a day

Higher Protein (over 250 pounds)

Complex Carbs/Grain Based Foods – 8 points a day
Protein-rich Foods – 12 points a day
Fruits and Veggies – 2-3 points a day
Fats, added sugars – 4-5 points a day
Milk and Milk Products – 4-6 points a day

30-34 points a day

Higher Carb (over 250 pounds)

Complex Carbs/Grain Based Foods – 13 points a day
Protein-rich Foods – 8 points a day
Fruits and Veggies – 2-4 points a day
Fats, added sugars – 3 points a day
Milk and Milk Products – 4-6 points a day

30-34 points a day

[Satine]

Hey Kelly - I was wondering why you didnt reply earlier to this...I lurk alot in this WW area and see that you always have some good advise...thanks.

I did try to go down to the lower point level but I am so hungry...

1 ) I usually stick towards the middle of my points range, like I was in the 24-29 range and I ate around 26-27 points per day...now I have went down to 25 although I may go back up to 27 for now ...

2 ) I didnt know about the pointspies ( thanks for doing that ), but I do have some fat in my day, by either mayo, cheese, peanut butter, or butter...

3 ) I do drink alot of water, I would say about 80-100 oz per day, is that enough?

4 ) As far as frozen meals I do eat alot of them, mainly for lunch, but I always have the WW Smart Ones

5 ) Exercise - That is the one thing I am bad about, I do it like once or twice a week if that, so I am thinking I am not going to get away with losing like I have been and not exercising, maybe that is the bulk of the problem...

6 ) Journaling - Yes I do that religiously ( sp? ) ... even every bite

7 ) Calculating points - I have been known to miscalculate points, as we all have, but try to be right on it...I pay alot of attn to portions and even weigh out my meat...

THe points pies are alot of help, when I look at that I notice some things I am doing wrong, like the 4-6 points of milk and milk products, I am lactose intolerant so I usually dont get much of that in, sometimes some 1% milk with my cereal...

I am going to start exercising and go back up to the higher points range and see where that gets me in a couple of weeks...I was a scale addict and got on every morning but I have not been on it for 4 days so we will see...I have done fairly well since Jan and know that there are going to be stalls along the way, I am just happy to be losing, and I would tell anyone that WW works...I love this program...

Thanks again Kelly for the information, it was really helpful...I am going to print out the points pies now....

[Kelly_S]

Sorry I have been on vacation otherwise I would have been the first to respond!

[Satine]

I thought it must have been something like that )