Since (if you read my other thread you'd know), I seem to have a problem with going over my alotted Flex Points, I thought I could try (at least for this week) combining the Flex Plan with Winning Points. The way it would work is this: I eat according to the Flex Points plan, with the Flex activity point rules and whatnot...but if I go over my Flex Points, I take whatever I went over them by away from my Target for the next day or 2. If I go over THAT, I take the difference away from the following week's Flex Points. Kind of like combining Flex Points and reverse banking. Mathematically, it balances out...

This is only an experiment that I want to test out for the next week or 2. If it works, I will only use it if needed; I will still make the effort to stay within my Flex Points. I only have 4 more pounds to lose until my goal of 130 by Halloween, so I have time to mess around a little. I was just wondering if anyone has tried anything similar to this and how it went. I know it isn't recommended by Weight Watchers but I wanted to experiment a bit.

FlexPoints is already reverse banking because they give you all the banked points in advance.

When you say that you go over your FlexPoints daily what does that mean? You still have a minimum to get to like with Winning Points but they call it TargetPoint. Is that what you are going over? If so that is when you use your ActivityPoints (because I know you earn them from a past post). And then you turn to your FlexPoints. Also if you divide your FlexPoints by 7 (35/7 = 5) it still gives you the same spread as WinningPoints did so you could bank what you don't use back (and in a sense you do bank your ActivityPoints because you use them before FlexPoints [at least online and in theory -- if you choose to use them]).

W/W advised to not go under your TargetPoints often because your body needs the caloric intake. An occassional day under is ok but not consistently.

So maybe realizing that the 2 programs really aren't different the just call things differently will help you. But you do what you think is best for you.

Well I agree with Kelly,
But I will add that maybe you need to think about making some better choices rather than continually "borrowing" form the days ahead. If you look at your journaling, which I hope you are doing, you may find that a change in morning cereal or change in snack can save you from going over each day. Even changing salad dressings, mayo for mustard.....Who knows, you can tell from your journals what you need to change to make the borrowing stop.

If winning points worked for you, just do that program. I personally liked the 123 unlimited fiber and I have combined that part of it with the FP. My palm has many food data bases in it and I use what that has calculated, but any food I add to the data base is calculated with unlimited fiber. I stay within my points but I count ALL fiber. I also find I have FP left at the end of the week. Partly because I eat my exercise points which I earn about 5 a day. if I don't earn them I take them from the bank.

So I guess what I am saying in a nut shell is pick a program and stick with it. You will make yourself crazy trying to combine too many aspects of too many programs.

Just my 2 cents,
-L

I mean that after I use up all 35 Flex Points, I sometimes eat even more (after using Activity Points too). So what I'm doing is just borrowing to a greater extent...

The only reason i do things like this is because I've had binge eating disorder for a while, and I'm getting over it but every now and then I get back into my old ways and I don't want to let that ruin my goals.

First off, everyone does their own tweeking, be it counting fiber, starting with dinner or using/not using activity points. my point to you is that if you are constantly borrowing, or even binging, WW may not be the plan for you. basically you are allowing yourself to over eat every day and trying to make excuses to justify why you will borrowe from tomorrow. EVERYONE has days they over eat and days that don't go according to plan. most of us just start fresh with a new day. The flexpoints changes that dynamic a little bit with the week's worth of banked points.

There is a sying, the only one you cheat is yourself. If you have to change the program so much that you are justifying the binging or borrowing, you need to evaluate how this program is working for you.

in truth WW is not recomended for people that have or have had eating diorders. as best I can figure out is because there is SO much focus on food and some peole can't handel it well.

i swear, I say this with respect for you. i don't want to see you fail. i want you to hve the best shot at making goal. WW is a great program, but it is not for everyone.

-L.

I see what you're saying...I really just wanted to be able to still diet, but to do it the normal, healthy way. I hoped that by doing Weight Watchers I could get healthy again (I was anorexic for some time, too, and then I put on a lot of weight very quickly) but still be in control and happy...

I have weeks at a time when I am so good OP and everything. But sometimes I just slip. I didn't want to give up Weight Watchers becuase it makes me feel more comfortable eating, without having to worry that every little bite is going to make me put on 10 pounds. But what you're saying makes sense. I suppose I should do my borrowing thing until I've made up for my last mini-binge (it was only 11 points, as opposed to my previous habit of eating 50 in a sitting), and then give myself one last chance to do this the right way. If it doesn't work, well, I don't know what I'll do yet. But thanks for your thoughts.

i wish you well. keep posting, it does help
-L