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2frustrated 10-05-2006 09:58 AM

Single sets of low reps high weights - good idea?
 
Hello LWL!

I didn't have time to plan my workout and didn't take my little notebook to the gym, so I decided to do a full body workout, using as many different machines/exercises I could think of!

I did just one set on each exercise, of 6 reps, but the 6th rep was pretty gruesome, teeth gritting, face pulling etc!!! :lol: I feel like I've had a good workout, but is this effective or is there something somewhere that says the 3 sets of 6 reps is optimum since it takes a while for your muscles to realise what you're doing???

BTW I did plenty of exercises per body part, eg overhead db press AND front raises. I also did lat pulldowns, and rows and assisted pullups etc etc.

What are your thoughts?

I probably won't do this kind of thing every time I go to the gym, but it was interesting and made a change!

TA

MomToKaylaAndTwins 10-05-2006 10:48 AM

My Personal trainer always had me doing 8-10. He said if you can't get to 8 without getting a little shaky, to drop the weight down. The goal is to be able to get a decent amount of work in but not tire too quickly.
Good luck! I have learned to LOVE weight training.

nelie 10-05-2006 11:00 AM

I think it might be a good idea to shake up your muscles a bit so I'd say go ahead and do something different once in a while!

As far as doing one set of 6, I always thought that your muscles do need a bit of warming up. It sounds like they don't get much of a chance, they go from working to shaking. I'd be interested in what others have to say as well. If I did it, I probably would've did one "easy" set to warm up, then a set of 6.

RobertW 10-05-2006 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 2frustrated (Post 1428896)
I feel like I've had a good workout, but is this effective or is there something somewhere that says the 3 sets of 6 reps is optimum since it takes a while for your muscles to realise what you're doing???


TA

I wouldn't do multiple sets to failure with a heavy weight, because I would quickly burn out. Try to terminate the set before you reach failure if you are doing a 3x6 scheme. According to
Prilepin's Tablel you should be using a weight ~70-75% of 1RM for your 3x6 scheme.

If your main focus is getting stronger rather than bigger, this sort of scheme should be very productive for you. Just don't be afraid of leaving a rep "in the tank". It is very easy to burn out training on heavier weights/lower reps.

Robert

2frustrated 10-05-2006 11:49 AM

I wasn't doing 3 sets to failure. I did one set of 6 to almost failure. I just thought I'd read something that said the 3 sets activates the muscles more or something :dunno:

Mel 10-05-2006 12:22 PM

Change is good!

There are studies on "older" populations that show that 1 set of 8-10 reps to fatigue increases muscle mass.

I wouldn't do that kind of workout on a regular basis, but every once in a while there's no harm and it's kind of fun. I'd suggest an overall body warmup first tho- maybe 5 minutes of walk-run on a treadmill just to het all the joints working.

Mel

RobertW 10-05-2006 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 2frustrated (Post 1429053)
I wasn't doing 3 sets to failure. I did one set of 6 to almost failure. I just thought I'd read something that said the 3 sets activates the muscles more or something :dunno:

Probably not enough to work for you. I would do either one set of six to complete and utter failure (a la Arthur Jones) or three sets of six to near failure.

Another way to go is to try what the powerlifters call a "max effort" workout: a series of progressively harder single rep sets until you reach failure. The trick is to make the jumps small enough that you get enough reps in to stimulate growth. They usually alternate max effort workouts with "dynamic effort" workouts where you train with lower weights for speed and explosiveness.

As Mel said, any change is likely to stimulate progress for a while unless you are either under or overtraining.

WaterRat 10-05-2006 03:08 PM

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There are studies on "older" populations that show that 1 set of 8-10 reps to fatigue increases muscle mass
So, Mel, does this mean I needn't do 3 sets of 12 anymore? :rofl: I did try a leg press at my body weight the other night and was able to do one. Wouldn't be able to a whole lot of reps though. :)

Mel 10-05-2006 08:17 PM

The studies that I've read start with a sedentary population and generally only last 12 weeks. I think you're past that point :)

On the other hand, you could take the approach that one is better than none...unless you get hurt :o

Mel


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