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jamsk8r 04-28-2014 04:10 PM

Glad you liked it. If you didn't know, the Crossfit Journal is free now, you do have to register to create an account, but even if you're not into CF workouts, there is some good content in there regarding all sorts of lifting, gymnastics, running, mobility, etc, and you can access the archives all the way back to the beginning.

saef 04-29-2014 09:20 PM

Second week of the NROLW program, still on 1A and 1B.

Here's an example of my imbalance from previous work with weights:

-Can squat 65 lbs. for 12 reps
-Can row 35 lb dumbbell for 12 reps
-Can do 10 prone jackknifes, no problem, thankyou thankyou again to two Pilates mat classes weekly since 2011.

BUT ...

Step-ups on plyo platform 18-inches high, while carrying a pair of 12.5 lb dumbbells: VERY Difficult to do for 12x each leg.

I miss doing curls because I always felt so tough while doing them. I had worked v e r y s l o w l y up to the 22.5 lb dumbbells for curls. NROLW doesn't have curls (yet, and probably at all, since it's a compound movement program) and I am curious about whether I will still be able to handle that weight. Or maybe do something heavier? We'll see. I am simply going to trust in the program.

saef 05-02-2014 02:15 PM

More NROLW reports of imbalance:

- 100 lbs deadlift for 2x12 reps, and am sure I can go up 5 lbs next time
- 80 lbs lat pulldown, and will figure out how to add to this one with those loose plates, as I'm not sure I can jump to 87.5
- For the dumbbell shoulder press, I'm on 22.5 lbs each, would love to make it to 25 lbs.

But weighted lunges at 12.5 lb dumbbells make my wrists tired. This now explains the forearm soreness. It was from holding onto these. If I were not strictly following this program, I'd do some farmers' walks to try to get a stronger grip.

Planks at 2 mins are no problem. Again, this is from my Pilates work. So I am now doing the single lifted leg, which makes this MUCH tougher.

jamsk8r 05-04-2014 01:35 PM

Saef, nice work on your deadlifts.

I was thinking, if your gym has kettlebells, you might try the lunges with those. They're less of a pain to try and grip and would probably let you up the weight on your lunges without grip being such a limiting factor. A little chalk would help, too, if you are allowed to use that in the gym. Some gyms will allow a chalk bag if you don't make a mess with it, even if they don't allow loose chalk. You don't need much, just a thin layer does the trick.

For the wrist pain, you might try wrist wraps or a couple passes with athletic tape. I wouldn't use them for everything, but if it comes down to being able to do the work you need to do, or not, then it's like a weight belt...put it on so you can get the work done.

Grip is slow to improve, but it will catch up if you just keep working. Maybe when you're done testing out this program, you can throw in the grip work after your regular lifting session a couple times a week, and help things along.

You don't say how many reps or sets you're doing with the lat pulldown. If you can't figure how to bridge the gap with loose plates, another approach would be to add an extra set or two with the 80 lbs, or jump up to the 87.5 and do fewer reps per set (then build up the reps from there), do a set or two to failure with the 80 lbs after your regular sets...any of those would get you stronger and pretty soon you'll be able to do the next setting on the machine in the rep range that the program calls for. :)

saef 05-11-2014 11:29 AM

Cheryl thanks for these tips on grip. This is great stuff; you clearly know your s4!t. Sorry, I just read them this morning. I hadn't been back to this thread, since it looks like I'm the only one doing NROLW -- or if the others are, they are probably posting to the NROLW Facebook group, which has lots of tips & encouragement. The NROL series authors Alwyn Cosgrove, Lou Schuler and Rachel Forsythe even check in from time to time, answering questions or offering advice.

No chalk available at my gym. They don't prohibit it, probably because no one there in living memory has ever used it. It's little NY area boutique gym on a really expensive piece of real estate, so the equipment is really crammed together on the limited floor space. It targets an audience that wants its spin classes and other classes it holds within its mirrored studio. It's just a block & a half from my house, and that's why I settled in there -- because until now, the best gym for me was the easiest gym to get to & fit into my daily routine.

The free weight section is a small afterthought, though I'm lucky in that there is an Olympic bar (just one, though). Yes. there are kettlebells -- so I'm going to check on those for step-ups and weighted lunges. Also it has two separate, really decent sets of dumbbells, one of which includes those precious fractional weights, like 12.5, 17.5, 22.5 and 27.5, which have really helped me progress along.

Still, in many ways, it is not a good place for lifting. I've faced the fact that if I really want to commit to lifting & NROLW, I'm going to have to join another area gym to access more power racks and other machines. There's one called Powerhouse Gym within a mile of me, though I'm not crazy about the neighborhood -- but look, if I get strong enough, I won't have to worry about the neighborhood.

I have made some progress since I last posted:

Deadlift 120 lbs 3 x 10
Dumbbell shoulder press 25 lbs. 3 x 10 (alternating with lat pulldowns, below)
Wanted to try 27.5 lbs but I'm not ready yet

Wide grip lat pulldown 3 x 10* (alternating with the shoulder press)
Finally made it up to 87.5 lbs. *Last set was supposed to be 10, but I made it to 7, needed to drop, then did the last 3.

Lunges, 3x10 (alternating with 2-minute planks), tried 17.5 lbs, only got in one set, had to drop to 15 lbs. for the other two sets.

I am going to try those wrist wraps, too. I think this grip issue isn't helped by years of repetitive stress from keyboarding all day -- just as I think my tight hips probably come from sitting at desks all day. All the more reason to get up and walk around more on the job. What the heck are we doing to our bodies with all the time we spent on devices and laptops and tablets?

saef 08-31-2014 10:21 AM

So it's now the last day of August, and I am well into Stage 6 of New Rules of Lifting for Women. I've been really enjoying having a routine to follow when I walk into the free-weight section. It gives me a sense of purpose and I never walk out wondering if I could have done more or if I did the right thing, if it was helping at all or if I was even progressing. So many of the women at my gym seem to be at a loss of what to do when faced with a rack full of weights, but they are impelled to go there nonetheless, because there is a craving for some kind of strength training.

For all that, I can't say this program has been easy. There are some fussy sequences, and some of the workouts kept me in the gym for more than two hours at a time. Now the workouts have gotten shorter again, but man, I thought I would give out or give up during Stage 5 -- I am glad I made it over the hump.

At the end of Stage 6, I'm supposed to be able to do an unassisted pullup. I'm doubting this one because of my bodyweight. But it's possible that I may manage a single chin-up. I will take my victories wherever I can find them.

I will report back then.

IanG 08-31-2014 05:55 PM

I had a nice time at the gym today. Did an hour.

Did some nice squats.

melithecat 09-12-2014 11:55 AM

Love the feeling of the workouts
 
Thanks for starting this thread. I started NROLFW 3 weeks ago - Stage 1 doing 3x workouts per week, and I absolutely love it.

So, I'm really pleased I found this thread, and look forward to sharing info.

I tend to get weaker around period time, which is right around the corner for me, so I had to lessen the weights this week by about 5 pounds. But, overall, as long as I lift at my 15 rep max, I can feel those endorphins coursing through.

As for being at the gym in the weights section - honestly, the guys are very cool. No one bothers me, and if I need help they are every so helpful. I tend to be the only female in the section, but I have seen other females (the really super fit ones) in the weight training area from time to time.

I notice that the the vast majority of the overweight gals are on the treadmill or bikes - doing steady state cardio at a moderate pace. Otherwise, you get the odd slim one that is stomping away really fast for an hour on the treadmill - but these types never have muscle tone. I never used to notice these little trends in the gym before :)

What I really like about this NROLFW workout is that it's both resistance and cardio at the same time. Also, I can be out of there in 30 minutes (but tend to be out within 40 after my stretch and cool down).

I decided to do this workout after I read the rave reviews over on BB.com with amazing transformation pics. It took time, and it took dedication - but if the workout feels this good, dedication is not an issue (for me).

I haven't lost any weight YET, but then I'm not following an eating protocol either. I'm an 80/20 eater - 80 healthy - 20 indulgent. I have about 25 pounds to shed (or at least look like I've shed them!) I did take measurements before I started but I'm in no hurry to remeasure. (I'm secretly hoping that I will lose without having to go on some drastic keto diet!). I have upped my protein though.

I actually want to let my clothes tell me ultimately. I am hoping that I will be able to notice when my trousers get a little looser around the waist and hips.

Anyway, I look forward to posting updates from time to time. And, I also look forward to reading everyone else's updates as they go through the stages!

Enjoy!
Meli

saef 09-12-2014 12:11 PM

Nearing the end of Stage 6, and it's interesting to see that my strength has increased since my earlier posts on this thread.

No problem doing eight consecutive underhand grip lat pull-downs at 112.5 lbs., then, after a pause, banging out three more.

On the Smith machine, weighted lunges with 27.5 lbs worth of plates on either side (25 + 2.5), I can do 10 consecutive without an issue.

Also no problem doing 20 consecutive pushups.

I do not think I can do an unassisted chinup. When I try the Gravitron, I still need about 20 lbs of assistance to do a chinup from a dead hang. I've gotta wonder, if I lost those 20 lbs, could I manage it? Something to ponder.

melithecat 09-12-2014 12:34 PM

Hey Saef,

Apart from gaining strength, any other changes you've noticed?

You are an inspiration :)

saef 09-14-2014 10:48 AM

Back here to report that I have officially completed Stage 6.

My encounter with the assisted pull-up machine confirmed what I wrote in my earlier post: I still can't perform an unassisted chin-up from a dead hang. If I set the pin at No. 5, which is 22 lbs. of assistance, that is, 22. lbs subtracted from my body weight, I am able to do a chin-up. So, yeah, I can get stronger, or I can lose about 20 lbs.

Mel, you asked what changes I've noticed since April, when I started the program:

1) My body looks firmer, particularly when I'm clothed. My back, shoulders, legs and butt benefited a lot from training.

2) I feel confident when walking into the free-weight section. I know what I'm doing there. Lots of people there look aimless. Not me. I'm not just picking up weights at random and performing exercises that I vaguely remember reading about someplace. I've got a mission, I know what I lifted the last time and I'm trying to go heavier or do more reps.

3) My ham-strings are stronger and looser than they've ever been. This is probably because I never trained my legs. I figured the StairMaster, arc trainer, elliptical and spin classes would take care of my legs. It was a revelation to me that a full-body program with leg work would really help me.

4) My aesthetic standards have readjusted themselves. Now that I understand how hard it is to build up muscles, that is what I value. I don't consider thinness or low weight to be my goal. In fact, I look at some women in the gym and think: "That's too frail-looking for me, that's not what I am working toward." This isn't a judgment on them as much as me saying, "No, that's not a role model."

5) You may not like this one: I've gained weight on this program. I'm up about 5 lbs. since April. Some of this is muscle, obviously, because I can see my trapezius is prominent and my arms have changed shape, as well as my butt. But some is fat, because I consciously upped my protein intake as advised. If I counted calories, that might not have happened, but I don't count calories, due to my history of eating disorders; I tend to become obsessive and miserable if I track everything. It's probably possible to maintain weight or lose weight on NROLW, but that wasn't my primary goal on the program.

6) I may have sacrificed some cardio fitness on the program. I can't tell, as I haven't gone for a run lately. My time in the gym is about the same, but I reduced my cardio work to fit in more strength training. I still do cardio four days a week, but not every. single. day. That's what I used to do. I believe I have a more balanced routine. But reducing cardio and increasing protein probably led to the weight gain I've experienced.

I still have to complete Stage 7, which I'll start on Tuesday morning, so I'll hold off a grand summation of NROLW till then.

saef 10-16-2014 05:03 PM

Done with Stage 7, and done with New Rules of Lifting for Women.

Took me from late April to October 14th, doing its workouts three times a week. On the other days, I took spin class or used the elliptical. I also took a Pilates class twice a week on my cardio days.

Weight gain, no weight loss, but considerable strength and muscle gain.

And I now realize that I never want to be without a strength-training program that is systematic and professionally crafted. There is a big difference between committing oneself to that and just messing around in the free-weight section randomly.

IanG 10-19-2014 08:04 PM

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And I now realize that I never want to be without a strength-training program that is systematic and professionally crafted. There is a big difference between committing oneself to that and just messing around in the free-weight section randomly.
I disagree. Any exercise is better than sitting on the couch (or being forced to do nothing, like you have to on IP).

The real keys to success are consistency (i.e. just keeping at whatever you do in terms of exercise, and constantly trying to push it to the next level) plus diet (i.e. eating right to fuel what you do).

The 'what' you do in terms of exercise does really not matter as long as you stick with it and it pushes you.

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Sage2 12-12-2014 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by saef (Post 5082867)
And I now realize that I never want to be without a strength-training program that is systematic and professionally crafted. There is a big difference between committing oneself to that and just messing around in the free-weight section randomly.

I love to look at and adapt parts and concepts from specific strength training programs and methods put together by professionals, but for me, it's my own instinct and love of variety that keeps me committed and consistent. I rarely do the same workout twice and am always experimenting or just randomly getting something done. That works best for me, but there certainly is merit in adhereing to programs as well.

atmos 12-12-2014 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by saef (Post 5082867)
Done with Stage 7, and done with New Rules of Lifting for Women.

Took me from late April to October 14th, doing its workouts three times a week. On the other days, I took spin class or used the elliptical. I also took a Pilates class twice a week on my cardio days.

Weight gain, no weight loss, but considerable strength and muscle gain.

And I now realize that I never want to be without a strength-training program that is systematic and professionally crafted. There is a big difference between committing oneself to that and just messing around in the free-weight section randomly.

I'm getting back into New Rules after a hiatus. I had made it through Stage 2 but am restarting Stage 1 following my old training log.

Since you have finished, and enjoy having a professionally-crafted training program, my question is: What have you been working on now that you have completed New Rules?

saef 12-17-2014 05:34 PM

I was working on Bret Contreras' "Strong Curves" program and was six weeks into it when I got hit by a car while walking to the gym one morning.

I have a tibial plateau fracture, had a rod, pins and plate inserted in my left leg, and I'll be non-weight-bearing for eight weeks at least. I'm using a walker right now.

So I'm not going to start a program until I've finished physical therapy and have a go-ahead. That may be some months ahead.

Today the physical therapist said I still have good upper body strength, even after a month of mostly bed rest or sitting up, and I have particularly strong quads, even on the injured leg despite some muscle atrophy. She usually gives people just four exercises but has given me seven to work on because I am more willing and motivated than many patients she sees.

I'm still glad for having completed the systematic, professionally designed program because it helped me balance my strength on all parts of my body, particularly in my posterior chain, including hamstrings and glutes, and my back muscles. I had to do the stuff that wasn't fun or interesting & that worked on parts of my body that I can't see. The physical therapist said this will help me a lot with rehab.

Violette_R 02-05-2015 11:52 AM

I'm doing New Rules of Lifting for Women. I'm in Stage 1; completed workout 4 last night.

I'm cheating and already added HIIT. I was already pretty active and 6 weeks seemed like a long time for someone who's trying to lose fat to not do cardio.

NSV for me: for years I've always consumed caffeine before workouts, but insomnia forced me to very significantly reduce my intake. So I'm doing these workouts in the PM - UNCAFFEINATED. Good job, honey. (This is what I tell myself when I deserve a little praise.)

3fcuser291505109 02-05-2015 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by IanG (Post 5083855)
I disagree. Any exercise is better than sitting on the couch (or being forced to do nothing, like you have to on IP).

The real keys to success are consistency (i.e. just keeping at whatever you do in terms of exercise, and constantly trying to push it to the next level) plus diet (i.e. eating right to fuel what you do).

ABSOLUTELY AGREE. Consistency.

Tobybear 05-27-2015 01:31 PM

I am 61 years old, 5'7 and weigh 220 pounds, also have bad knees. Will I be able to do this? I have weights at home but don't want to buy something that I won't be able to do. Thanks for your help.


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