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mars735 06-15-2015 10:19 AM

ladynredd Well done! :bravo:
You are an inspiration. It sounds like fun with your grandson! 3 hrs??? Wow! Bringing the carrots was a great thing to do. It's so easy to skip those seemingly 'little' things. Imo, any sort of affirmative action helps to solidify our intention to eat healthy, over & above having something to eat. :cheer::cp::carrot::carrot::carrot:

Sending good vibes :goodvibes to luckmommy Safe travels and hope you can get online to check in! Enjoy your vacay! :hug:

Happy Monday, Everyone!

flower123 06-15-2015 01:45 PM

hi I posted here once before ( Or I think this was the thread) Mars was kind enough to respond. I never posted again. So huge belated thanks to Mars for her response.

This whole food addict thing is getting the best of me. I find that either I am in the groove and the diet thing is in check, or I am whirling out of control to the point where I am gaining. Fallen off the "wagon".

These days, control over this addiction is elusive. So here I am again. Only this time I am not posting and running.... not to be heard from again. I have gained 8 lbs since mother's day weekend. Not proud of it. Gotta get back on board. I know how to do it. I know the low carb low cal, less intake of food, formula that works well for me. Just have to implement it and get back in the groove. Be stronger than the cravings. In a way, be addicted to the healthy dieting. Thanks for reading. Hope you all have a great day.

amyniagara 06-15-2015 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mars735 (Post 5174153)
Hi amyniagara! :wave:
The anxiety of having nobody around who knew I am an addict felt like a vacation but also showed me how much I rely on having others around to keep from sneaking food.

Can you say a little more? I could be totally misreading, but it sounds like you doing IP with DH in a support role that might be feeling a little like you're being policed? And then wanting to rebel? That would be totally natural! Especially when you body thinks you are in a big famine. Your brain is gonna do everything it can to get you to stock it up with quick carbs, fat, you name it. We are so creative when it comes to inventing reasons to eat those things :wizard: :devil:
On the other hand, maybe you are feeling loneliness with DH away that is making you turn to food? That's of course also totally natural!

Everyone is different as to what they can tolerate, but if you are like me, get all temptations out of sight. When you are on an extreme diet like IP, there is no need to make it any more challenging than it already is. Positive affirmations can be really helpful. Even something as simple as "I can do this" or "I am strong" You can have some fun composing one that makes you feel positive and strong.

The thing about Ideal Protein that you probably already know, is that once you eat over a certain amount of carbs, you are out of ketosis. So when you go back to following the plan, your body will once again go through that tough few days while you burn through all the newly stored glycogen. Each and every time. So if you absolutely feel the need to eat, you will have an easier time by eating more protein, free veggies, clear chicken broth, fat free, no carbs per label, or even an extra packet.

Hope this helps :hug:

If you ever are looking for a post IP plan, c'mon over to the Slow Carb thread for a sustainable WOE & fantastic support. (first post explains the basics)
http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/othe...hread-3-a.html

I am glad to be able to say that nobody polices me when it comes to food except for myself...My husband knows that my addiction will only get worse if others try to tell me what, or what not, to do.

I do miss my husband when he is away but emotions like loneliness or boredom are easy for me to manage without sugar...but the desire to sneak food is literally the 7-year-old-girl in me wanting to indulge in sugar and bread for the buzz. Does anyone else love the feeling of being full? Most people don't but I sure do and it can hard to live without. Being in ketosis really cuts cravings, which is great. The only way to feel full/stuffed on IP (if the desire for this sensation gets to be on my mind a lot) is to drink a LOT of veggies, tea and water until it goes away.

It's interesting how we all find ways to deal with food addiction...I find that planning ahead is the secret to success. Also, getting rid of stress, as possible, is always best. I, like so many of us, have intense personal pressures and being on the IP diet really helps me. I plan to abstain from wheat and sugar after I hit my goal as well as trigger foods. No time like the present to practice, practice, practice abstaining! I guess I have my answer to how to handle being alone with my addiction. ;)

amyniagara 06-15-2015 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by flower123 (Post 5174560)
hi I posted here once before ( Or I think this was the thread) Mars was kind enough to respond. I never posted again. So huge belated thanks to Mars for her response.

This whole food addict thing is getting the best of me. I find that either I am in the groove and the diet thing is in check, or I am whirling out of control to the point where I am gaining. Fallen off the "wagon".

These days, control over this addiction is elusive. So here I am again. Only this time I am not posting and running.... not to be heard from again. I have gained 8 lbs since mother's day weekend. Not proud of it. Gotta get back on board. I know how to do it. I know the low carb low cal, less intake of food, formula that works well for me. Just have to implement it and get back in the groove. Be stronger than the cravings. In a way, be addicted to the healthy dieting. Thanks for reading. Hope you all have a great day.

I can relate to that kind of gain...I gained like clockwork until getting back on track and this thread is really a big help.

I find the "healthy diet addiction" to be just the right cure too! Ha. I have of course slipped off the wagon over time and had to run alongside for a mile or two but it always feels gooood to be back on board. It sure is hard to parent ourselves but we gotta do it.

Candidcamster 06-15-2015 05:18 PM

Thank you Mars735, I didn't succumb to temptation, and I do enjoy looking at the clothes too ;). I'm in love w/these Wallflower jeans they have them for less than $20 shipped.

mars735 06-16-2015 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by flower123 (Post 5174560)
hi I posted here once before ( Or I think this was the thread) Mars was kind enough to respond. I never posted again. So huge belated thanks to Mars for her response.

This whole food addict thing is getting the best of me. I find that either I am in the groove and the diet thing is in check, or I am whirling out of control to the point where I am gaining. Fallen off the "wagon".

These days, control over this addiction is elusive. So here I am again. Only this time I am not posting and running.... not to be heard from again. I have gained 8 lbs since mother's day weekend. Not proud of it. Gotta get back on board. I know how to do it. I know the low carb low cal, less intake of food, formula that works well for me. Just have to implement it and get back in the groove. Be stronger than the cravings. In a way, be addicted to the healthy dieting. Thanks for reading. Hope you all have a great day.

Awww you are welcome Flower. :hug: I enjoy the candor & humor in your posts on 3FC. You have a lot of discipline! I find the same thing re 3fC, I'm not sure why but if I spend time here, I'm holding the line, if I leave 3FC, I relapse. Maybe posting here is a sign you are ready to back on board & enjoy some freedom from those foods. Sometimes I have a few false starts. I wish you the smoothest possible re-entry. This food addiction stuff is really tough to get a grip on. :yes: It takes fortitude to pick yourself up and start fresh. :cp: You know what to do, you've got this.

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Originally Posted by amyniagara (Post 5174609)
I am glad to be able to say that nobody polices me when it comes to food except for myself...My husband knows that my addiction will only get worse if others try to tell me what, or what not, to do.

I do miss my husband when he is away but emotions like loneliness or boredom are easy for me to manage without sugar...[COLOR="Blue"]but the desire to sneak food is literally the 7-year-old-girl in me wanting to indulge in sugar and bread for the buzz. Does anyone else love the feeling of being full? Most people don't but I sure do and it can hard to live without.[/B] Being in ketosis really cuts cravings, which is great. The only way to feel full/stuffed on IP (if the desire for this sensation gets to be on my mind a lot) is to drink a LOT of veggies, tea and water until it goes away.

It's interesting how we all find ways to deal with food addiction...I find that planning ahead is the secret to success. Also, getting rid of stress, as possible, is always best. I, like so many of us, have intense personal pressures and being on the IP diet really helps me. I plan to abstain from wheat and sugar after I hit my goal as well as trigger foods. No time like the present to practice, practice, practice abstaining! I guess I have my answer to how to handle being alone with my addiction. ;)

I've never noticed whether I get a buzz from being full--gonna give it some thought & pay attention. It's so useful to understand what drives our eating behavior. You've applied quite a piece of self-knowledge to the question, and it sounds like you've tapped into your determination. WTG!!!! :yay: :carrot: :yay:

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Originally Posted by Candidcamster (Post 5174633)
Thank you Mars735, I didn't succumb to temptation, and I do enjoy looking at the clothes too ;). I'm in love w/these Wallflower jeans they have them for less than $20 shipped.

Candidcamster :bravo: Did you get the jeans?

I just noticed David Kessler published something since End of Overeatingin 2013. I foget the title, maybe Hijacked? About how the certain foods (processed, with sugar fat salt) fool our brains into thinking we are hungry for more, even when we are full. So maybe it IS the food! I might have to read this. :)

flower123 06-16-2015 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by amyniagara (Post 5174615)
.....I find the "healthy diet addiction" to be just the right cure too! Ha. I have of course slipped off the wagon over time and had to run alongside for a mile or two but it always feels gooood to be back on board. It sure is hard to parent ourselves but we gotta do it.

Oh yes !! Words well said. "parent ourselves" indeed. Thanks. Here's to healthy addiction. It may not be as good as cure or healing. But it is a heck of a lot easier than the other alternative :)

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Originally Posted by mars735 (Post 5174724)
......... I'm holding the line, if I leave 3FC, I relapse. Maybe posting here is a sign you are ready to back on board & enjoy some freedom from those foods. Sometimes I have a few false starts. I wish you the smoothest possible re-entry. This food addiction stuff is really tough to get a grip on. :yes: It takes fortitude to pick yourself up and start fresh. :cp: You know what to do, you've got this..

AWWWW mars. thanks for the great vote of confidence. Today I went out after talking to my widowed sister in law and bought some of the dreaded popchips. But in my defense, I was good the rest of the day. I think I need a popchip blocker :lol:

Tuesday is another day. The goal: No popchips. No turkey jerkey ( my bags of trouble) . I think I will figure this out. With chicken, celery and cucumber as my wittness, I WILL prevail :D

I hope everyone has a good Tuesday

flower123 06-16-2015 10:47 PM

Hi all. I hope people had an easy time of it today.

amyniagara, you did help me today. I was in Trader Joes trying to relieve the pain by getting turkey jerkey ( very expensive). And not getting their version of popchips ( loaded with carbs). I kept thinking, what if I got some chicken sausage. Could I relieve the pain if I ate it ??

I was trying to thwart the inner tantrums as I thought of your words re parenting oneself. Yes, I must do that. So, I got the chicken sausage, went home and had celery sticks and cucumber and 2 chicken sausages... for breakfast. So by some miracle my goal was accomplished. No popchips or turkey jerkey. was a "nail biter". But with sheer persistence and diligence, I prevailed !! Tomorrow is another day. But for today I prevailed.

I hope everyone has a good tomorrow. I plan to prevail... again. One chicken sausage at a time :D

amyniagara 06-17-2015 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by flower123 (Post 5175076)
Hi all. I hope people had an easy time of it today.

amyniagara, you did help me today. I was in Trader Joes trying to relieve the pain by getting turkey jerkey ( very expensive). And not getting their version of popchips ( loaded with carbs). I kept thinking, what if I got some chicken sausage. Could I relieve the pain if I ate it ??

I was trying to thwart the inner tantrums as I thought of your words re parenting oneself. Yes, I must do that. So, I got the chicken sausage, went home and had celery sticks and cucumber and 2 chicken sausages... for breakfast. So by some miracle my goal was accomplished. No popchips or turkey jerkey. was a "nail biter". But with sheer persistence and diligence, I prevailed !! Tomorrow is another day. But for today I prevailed.

I hope everyone has a good tomorrow. I plan to prevail... again. One chicken sausage at a time :D

Fantastic...and now You have inspired me with your story. I agree...every day is one day at a time. I think that when we are committed, it gets easier to think of health and sanity and find our way towards the lifestyle that makes things better, not worse. Food definitely doesn't dull the pain...it is a very tempting distraction but will never be the cure. I have a hard time remembering that. (Insert Cross-eyed emoticon here). I should write that on sticky notes and stick them everywhere!

mars735 06-17-2015 08:24 AM

Way to go flower! :cp: :yay:

I slipped up yesterday--after talking myself through resisting something sweet in the lounge at work, I suddenly ate some. It's as if there is someone else in my head sometimes. :devil: But I did manage to put the brakes on and limit the damage, and I did manage to avoid the big story of rationalization. I KNOW it was a slip.

flower123 06-18-2015 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by amyniagara (Post 5175084)
....Food definitely doesn't dull the pain...it is a very tempting distraction but will never be the cure. I have a hard time remembering that. (Insert Cross-eyed emoticon here). I should write that on sticky notes and stick them everywhere!

Wellllll yesterday I did end up having a 3.5 oz bag of popchips. Nasty little things, they are. And the funny part about it is after I have finished inhaling them, all I want is MORE. :dizzy: For me, food does actually dull the pain for that day. But it creates a whole other level of pain in weight gain and lack of control, shame etc. As well as the ever famous avoidance ( to name a few).

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Originally Posted by mars735 (Post 5175131)
I slipped up yesterday--after talking myself through resisting something sweet in the lounge at work, I suddenly ate some. It's as if there is someone else in my head sometimes. :devil: But I did manage to put the brakes on and limit the damage, and I did manage to avoid the big story of rationalization. I KNOW it was a slip.

Sounds like that had many components of success, mars. Ya, there was the slip. But it was well controlled. And you didn't go into the rationalization. Perhaps its not IF we slip ( when we do) but rather what we do with the slip. Do we go back for more? Do we spiral out of control? I hear ya re the "someone else in my head". :devil: That's what makes this so darned ( being careful with my expletives) hard. And that's why it takes such courage and strength to work on this each day. Okay, I was trying to sound really positive and motivational in general :lol:

Today I managed to win. I didnt eat anything bad. I honestly would have liked to have missed one of those meals. But that's not an option these days. I am grateful that I was able to stay low(ish) calorie and low carb. I will not vouch for what will happen on Saturday. Its my costco ( aka sample) day. To make matters worse, I have to go to the chocolate factory/store to buy my particular (low fat and alkalized) cocoa powder that day. Suffice to say, I will not be posting here on Saturday. I will be in a carb coma. :o ;)

I hope everyone had an easy(ish) time of it today.

mars735 06-18-2015 09:58 PM

Congratulations on the wins, flower!

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Originally Posted by flower123 (Post 5175719)
Wellllll yesterday I did end up having a 3.5 oz bag of popchips. Nasty little things, they are. And the funny part about it is after I have finished inhaling them, all I want is MORE. :dizzy: For me, food does actually dull the pain for that day. But it creates a whole other level of pain in weight gain and lack of control, shame etc. As well as the ever famous avoidance ( to name a few).

Amen to this! The pain it causes me is the way those trigger foods bring out that bottomless pit, 'I could swallow the ocean' feeling. The only point of satisfaction is getting so stuffed I couldn't possibly have more, yet my mind is still hungry. I wonder what they put in those darn pop chips. I don't even especially like em but I always want more anyway, if I eat them. Crack chips.


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Sounds like that had many components of success, mars. Ya, there was the slip. But it was well controlled. And you didn't go into the rationalization. Perhaps its not IF we slip ( when we do) but rather what we do with the slip. Do we go back for more? Do we spiral out of control? I hear ya re the "someone else in my head". :devil: That's what makes this so darned ( being careful with my expletives) hard. And that's why it takes such courage and strength to work on this each day. Okay, I was trying to sound really positive and motivational in general :lol:
Thanks, flower, I'll take it----very helpful! :flow2:

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Today I managed to win. I didnt eat anything bad. I honestly would have liked to have missed one of those meals. But that's not an option these days. I am grateful that I was able to stay low(ish) calorie and low carb. I will not vouch for what will happen on Saturday. Its my costco ( aka sample) day. To make matters worse, I have to go to the chocolate factory/store to buy my particular (low fat and alkalized) cocoa powder that day. Suffice to say, I will not be posting here on Saturday. I will be in a carb coma. :o ;)
Same with me re Costco. I must time my trips to get out of there before the lunch time deluge of samples. And they just make me hungrier when i have some. Cocoa powder factory sounds both delightful & dangerous, lol. You are walking the gauntlet tomorrow--don't go in on an empty stomach! Sending you good thoughts to do things in the most self-caring way possible. When I know I'm going off my diet, I make sure to ENJOY! :hug:

I'm recovering from my Tuesday slippage into a little sugar, but not getting complacent. I think I will start logging in how many sugar free days, and invite anyone else to do the same with any of your triggers. How we love to count things! Today is Day 2.

TGIF cometh!

Mrs Snark 06-19-2015 08:15 AM

TGIF is here, Mars! Counting sugar-free days sounds like a nice way to stay on track!

I had an "ugh" month. Extra this over there, extra that over here. None of it truly egregious, compared to past behavior, but it still all added up to an over 5 pound gain for the month.

Le sigh.

AND my weight trend for the year as a whole is up, up, UP. I'm going to have to re-institute more structure if I want to reverse it. And I have a seriously complicated relationship with structure. We're definitely frenemies.

I have challenged myself to plan more this month and cut "fun snacks" out altogether, instead of justifying reasons to eat them.

And that's that.

mars735 06-19-2015 09:57 AM

:wave: Mrs. Snark, Yay you for recognizing a trend and jumping on it! :cheer: You've got it, and if it means dropping in here, well that's a plus for the rest of us! :)

flower oh was I channeling you yesterday evening. I cooked up some ground turkey to use in the coming week--this, after a great day of OP eating and feeling really fine about it all.....Next thing ik now I'm eating a little dish of the ground meat with some Walden Farms BBQ sauce. and another, and possibly another, and wanting more more more. it started so innocently, too, just tasting the meat. The saboteur in my head said, 'hey why not add the WF sauce, after all I'm trying to get rid of it anyway.'

The result was feeling too full--it was unpleasant even though I didn't really eat all that much. It's just that i had felt really fine in my body, and mind too, mostly. I dumped the rest of the WF down the drain, case closed. BBQ IS a trigger for me, probably due to the sweetness. And this was calorie free, mind you! Anyway I wondered if there is flavoring to the pop chips that calls out to you flower.

That feeling of being to full--overstretched stomach--is unpleasant. I've begun to notice that lately. There is a definite disconnect in my head between stomach and brain hunger. I'm calling it another feature of addiction: Aside from the feeling of 'there's never enough to satisfy me', this wish to eat more even when stomach, body feel just right, the head wants to eat. and eat. and eat.

The other things I've noticed lately is that when I eat past pleasant fullness, my mood changes almost instantly. This is not about feeling disappointed or self-judgemental. I left most of that behind once I reached goal wt. No, it feels directly connected to the slightly unpleasantly overstuffed stomach sensation.

So, the punchline of this long ramble is that I'm going to experiment this weekend with NOT feeding my brain. The conditions should be favorable--beautiful weather, no obligations.

Beginning day 3 no sugar.

Wishing everyone a great weekend!

flower123 06-20-2015 01:33 AM

Mrs Snark, I have gained a bit of weight this year as well. It feels rather out of control. For me, I think it relates to allowing the trigger foods back in my life. I still am in maintenance. But not quite as low as last summer

Mars, I so understand ( from my own perspective) everything you wrote about. All the observations. All the behaviors you wrote about. I REALLY hear ya.

I think your observations sound on point. I am interested in what you wrote about NOT feeding your brain. I think thats the way to do it. To show the mind who's boss. I think once that pattern is established it makes it easier. For me, there have been those "grace times". That's what I call them. Where there is a reset. It usually is a health thing where I am forced to eat differently. So the choice is removed. Then that gets to be the pattern. I am looking for one of those times again. Less painful, if you know what I mean. Not obsessing as much.

Re the popchips, yes, crack. I finish a bag and want more. One bag, gone in less than 5 minutes. Then craving more. My mind on popchips :dizzy::?::^:

I am wishing you a sugar free saturday. Sugar. How can something so horrible taste so good? This is the question. The devil's spawn. :rofl: I do think we all are so strong to be grappling successfully with all of this. Yes we are !!!

mars735 06-20-2015 01:57 PM

Thank-you for that validation flower! I'm experiencing ambivalence in my approach re sugar. Alternative explanation is I fell of the wagon. I'm doing the Slow Carb plan, 3FC version with some tweaks, and there it prescribes a Carb Day, both to stoke the metabolic furnace and to balance out any feeling of deprivation. Otherwise it's low carb but allows legumes, avocado, cottage cheese.

Anyway, Slow Carb is my long term WOE plan. My carb day is meant to be non sweet fast carbs like potatoes. But yesterday I had sweets--devil's spawn indeed!-- along with carby Mexican food. I did not binge though, even though it would have been ok on my plan. I just didn't want that much sweet stuff. It felt good to have a 'meh' reaction. I won't be planning for sweets every week, though. So my news is Sugar Free day #1. Sometimes it takes few tries to get rolling.

Hope everyone has a great weekend and Happy Solstice! Actually solstice is the beginning of me worrying about how to handle short daylight. There's gotta be a sugar-free way...

mars735 06-21-2015 11:12 AM

Flower, Hope you survived Costco & other challenges of the demonic ;) spawn genre. Fwiw, I noticed on your ticker that you are working to eliminate 2 things. Speaking for myself, I've had success tackling one specific at a time. It's that much easier to miss only one thing. Once I no longer miss it, I can tackle something else.

Sugar free day # 2 begins!

:sunny: Happy Solstice Fellow FAs! May the light be with us :)

Mrs Snark 06-22-2015 08:01 AM

Solstice: so much hot! The light was definitely strong down here! :)

Mars -- Happy Sugar Free Day #3 today! (looking back at something you posted a couple posts ago): I wish I felt physically bad when I overate, it would be an excellent deterrent and reminder to knock it off. But I have to have a terribly extreme binge to get to any level of discomfort, I guess I'm just a bottomless pit in my belly. I rarely have a physical sense of fullness even when I'm on plan. I have to use my brain to scope out what is an appropriate portion and then kinda go by that, when the food is gone, I'm done -- period. I wish I had better signals from my body.

Flower -- My grocery store pipes the smells of their bakery throughout the building. I can tell when they are making the donuts, it kills me! If they did samples it would be torturous. I think we have a costco somewhere in my area, but I've never been. Is it only one day they do this sample thing?

So I made it through the weekend without snacking, and without extra portions, and I feel fine. So clearly I was just eating for entertainment when I was doing that, not because I actually needed more food. What a shock.

mars735 06-23-2015 09:23 AM

Thanks, Mrs. Snark! WTG with no weekend snacking. :cp::yay::cp: I'm glad to hear you felt fine. That's half the battle, imo, to know that nothing bad will happen or that that we won't be haunted by those 'need to eat' sensations.

So begins sugar free day #4. So far so good. This feels like a honeymoon phase though. I don't think Friday's indulgence is fully out of my body. The big challenge will be Thursday-Sun.

Mrs Snark 06-23-2015 10:51 AM

Hang in there, Mars! Weekends are always more of a challenge for me than week days, too. But you can do it!

My husband is currently out of town and will return Thursday, so Thursday night will begin the Snack Storm at my house, lol. So I'm right there with you -- being cautiously optimistic but also aware of what's coming down the pike.

mars735 06-24-2015 09:49 AM

Mrs. Snark Sounds like you have a balanced attitude & know what you are up against. Being around someone else's WOE on a regular basis can sure add a challenge! But you know what to do! Here's to Strength on Snack Storm Thursday for you :strong:

Other than a sugar accident with infused balsamic vinegar, I've had a good sugar-free run so far & starting Day 5. By coincidence, my workplace is having a sugar-free challenge in which I enrolled.

:wave: luckymommy

mars735 06-25-2015 07:29 AM

Sugar free day #6 begins.

mars735 06-26-2015 07:56 AM

Happy Friday! :dance:

Today is sugar free day # 7. It's easier to do this when I'm not hungry, more a matter of staying focused and remembering the resolution rather than white-knuckling it.

Mrs Snark 06-26-2015 09:28 AM

A week sugar free!! Wowser, Mars, that's awesome! Way to go! :carrot:

The Snack Storm began at my house last night, after DH returned home, and I did fine. It was helpful that Mr. Snark tends to snack on stuff I either don't love or that isn't vegan. It was kind of him to keep the Fritos out of the house. I have my meals planned for tonight and Saturday night, as well, so I should be ok going forward. Yay for planning!

mars735 06-27-2015 10:29 AM

Yay YOU Mrs. Snark :yay:::cheer: for conquering Snack Storm! And a tip of the hat to Mr. Snark for leaving out Fritos.

I think this is the first week is a very long time that I have not had sweets. I'm wondering if there is anything to the gut bacteria theory of sugar craving. RIP to a few million of my sugar-loving microbes, hopefully! Today is sugar free day 8. I'll be happy to see what it feels like to get through a weekend without sugar.

mars735 06-28-2015 09:37 AM

Sugar free day #9. Today is Carb Day on my Slow Carb plan. My goal is to carb load without sweets--it will be the first time since big wt loss diet. I'll be enjoying lunch out & looking forward to a nonrestrictive restaurant meal.

Mrs Snark 06-28-2015 04:38 PM

Awesome, enjoy your carb day, Mars! I think in the way-back-past I did a weight lifting diet (for cutting) that carb cycled, I remember how darn good carb day was -- everything was extra tasty!

I officially made it through the weekend without indulging in any extra snacks, and I am still alive and semi-friendly. So proud. ;-)

dms6k 06-28-2015 09:33 PM

I think this is where I belong. I consider myself addicted to food as I want to eat all the time. Sometimes it feels like I do it and im not aware until after the fact. I also have a sort of switch where when I start it doesn't stop till I go to bed. I feel like I cant even make it through 1 day doing good. Have no support at home as im doing this on my own. Right now I need to lose about 70 pounds. Any simple ways to get started and stay on track??
Thanks

ladynredd 06-29-2015 08:43 AM

Giggling over Mrs. Snark's comment about "semi-friendly." Also must say I love the dog in your profile picture.

mars735 06-30-2015 09:19 AM

:sunny:Happy Tuesday :carrot: Sugar free day # 11 begins. That's a short time but it's longer than I've managed for a very long time. Usually I get strong cravings after about a week of no sugar. It's a nice peaceful feeling. It helps to eat bigger meals and avoid getting too hungry. I've been on the Slow Carb WOE and weight is moving in the right direction, ever so slowly.

mars735 07-01-2015 11:07 AM

Sugar free Day # 12 begins. I'm using the last of my Walden Farms Italian vinaigrette dressing, which contains sucralose (splenda) and it tastes too sweet now. Same with my barely-sweetened Designer Whey vanilla shake.

mars735 07-02-2015 10:06 AM

Sugar free day #13. I walked past a restaurant while shopping and there was a delicious, rich aroma of grilled teriyaki. But after a second I noticed a sweet component that I didn't care for at all. It suddenly seemed like an aroma of grease & sugar. This was automatic--I wasn't trying to do anything.

Upcoming is a dessert I am assigned for July 4th, and it will be berries and ice cream/sorbet. Having the ice cream in my freezer overnight will be......interesting. Hoping no one cares if I skip it at the gathering.

Have a great 'early Friday, All!

Wannabehealthy 07-02-2015 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by mars735 (Post 5171527)

Then I obsessed over wanting to get rid of my protein chips so overate them, along with some of the fruit. When I am starting a new WOE, I feel like I MUST get rid of everything that doesn't fit. There's really no need as the chips have enough chemicals to keep for at least a couple of yrs, lol.


Mars, I know this is old, but I have to tell you, this is ME all over! The day before I start a new plan is always a binge day, getting rid of all the "bad" foods. Why can't we just throw it away? Is it because of the starving children in China that we always heard about? LOL

Good job on your 13 sugar free days! For me it took a while, a month or so, before I realized that I no longer craved sweets. Not that I never indulge, I do occasionally, but it's no longer a trigger.

My problem is still too much food. Before this recent stint with low carb, I had a habit of eating within an hour of finishing dinner. I wasn't hungry, but there was something I wanted to eat so I ate it. I've noticed myself doing it lately. I think the reason is because I have more food that I like on hand than I need, and I just want to eat it. One of those things is deli turkey. I no longer eat it with bread. Now I like it wrapped in a romaine leaf. But I'm eating it when I'm not really hungry. I feel that I'm eating something healthy and that makes it OK. I think I have to stop buying the turkey, or maybe buy smaller quantities and only occasionally. It's still deli meat and still has way to much sodium. Another problem is leftovers. Normally my PLAN is to have them for lunch the next day but they don't always make it to the next day. I will heat them up and eat them just because they are there. When eating at a restaurant, I think I'm doing a good thing by only eating half my meal and bringing the rest home, but how good is it when I eat it as soon as I get home? It would kill me to leave that uneaten food on the plate to be thrown out. Why?

So those of you who feel addicted to sweets, realize that there are other food addictions other than sugar.

Sleep. When I was 130 lbs I didn't stay there naturally. I had to constantly work at it. One thing I did was never eat in the evening. I always went to bed with an empty stomach, and I just died until my alarm went off the next morning. It wasn't until I lost my resolve and gained all this weight that I started having poor sleep. I wake up several times during the night and many times can't fall back to sleep. I think if I could get back to going to bed on an empty stomach I would sleep much better. I have also heard that carbs will help you sleep, but for me it was always interrupted sleep, not deep sleep. And if I don't sleep well I am tired the next day, and it seems I keep wanting to eat something for energy, when what I really need is a nap.

What happened to Luckymommy? She posted on 6/13 then disappeared. Hope she's OK. I miss her posts. Even though I don't post here often, I read.

Wannabehealthy 07-02-2015 11:42 AM

Mars, I want to add something. You need to learn not to be so nice. When someone offers you something, sweets, wine, learn to say "No thank you, I don't care for any." No explanation about sugar etc. That's not being rude, but if they continue to insist then they're being rude. In most circumstances there is something else acceptable that you can have, but if not, you don't have to eat something just because they want you to.

My mother-in-law was a food pusher. I remember one time she offered me pie after dinner and I said "No thank you, I don't want any." She cut it and put it in front of me anyway. I just left it, and then she said "You didn't eat your pie." And I told her, "Oh, I told you I didn't want any." That may have been harsh, but I was not going to let her bully me into putting something in my body that I didn't want.

mars735 07-04-2015 09:29 AM

Carol Sue My replies to disappeared. gah! That's interesting about your sleep pattern with carbs. Re tossing food, sometimes I can tell that the reason i'm doing it is to justify a binge. Other times, it helps me to focus on my WOE. After a while it can sure get expensive though. At least with Slow Carb, nothing is off the menu. But overall, I agree that reluctance has to do with instilled guilt about, or just an awareness of, others who are less fortunate.

In a similar vein, when I am in splurge mode, I don't check the price of those sweets I'm putting in my cart. In healthy mode, I get suddenly frugal. I obsess over whether I should buy the expensive organic mushrooms, and I still waiting for cauliflower to go on sale. I guess it's an all-or-nothing mentality.

Re your deli meat, that's me, too. Anything that I can pick up with my fingers does not last long! The roll ups sound great, though.

I have been 2 weeks off sugar. The ice cream in my freezer has not bothered me at all. And it's really good ice cream! I hope to get to your point where sweets are no longer triggering.

Wishing all an enjoyable holiday!

amyniagara 07-04-2015 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by dms6k (Post 5178988)
I think this is where I belong. I consider myself addicted to food as I want to eat all the time. Sometimes it feels like I do it and im not aware until after the fact. I also have a sort of switch where when I start it doesn't stop till I go to bed. I feel like I cant even make it through 1 day doing good. Have no support at home as im doing this on my own. Right now I need to lose about 70 pounds. Any simple ways to get started and stay on track??
Thanks

I can relate! Some of the food thoughts are drowning out other thoughts such as grief, worry or anxiety, but after having nearly lost my mind obsessing over food (wanting, wishing, denying every minute of every day) i went on the Ideal Protein diet and that helped me to tame the other side of addiction which is physical, and now (even though i gained my 40 pounds back over 4 years) i am strictly fighting the emotional eating.

Obsessive, intrusive thoughts about eating are so exhausting! They get worse though if the pancreas is fed sugar and bread. I like finding out about food addiction and being in this group is helping me to feel understood and less worn out. Did you get a chance to read that article about junk food abstinence? It really helped me. I can find it again or maybe someone has it handy and will post it.

Food addiction is real...but it can be tamed! One day at a time. I absolutely believe that.

magistra17 07-04-2015 03:13 PM

Hello! I just found this thread, so I think I'll jump in.

I don't know if I have a food addiction, but I do know that I like my comfort foods. When I feel stressed, all I want to eat is carbs, bread and butter, ice cream, muffins and hot cookies fresh from the oven, etc.

I was raised on cereal and milk, or toast and jam for breakfast. Once a week my mom would make what she called a farmer's breakfast. The sheer amount of food was fantastic. Bacon, eggs, sausage, ham, potatoes, fruit, pancakes or waffles, donuts or sticky buns. She would get up in the morning and spend a few hours cooking. We would eat around 10 or 11. We could eat that breakfast and feel full for the whole day.

It's hard to stay away from these foods that I love. I have fond memories of eating donuts on Sunday mornings. We did donut day with our kids too. We always have ice cream in the freezer. And often there is cookie dough chilling in the fridge just waiting to be baked.

I'm eating low carbs now, so my breakfast is usually eggs and berries, tea without anything in it, but there are days when I get up in the morning and I just want to eat a huge cheese bagel with butter and put a 1/4 cup of cream in my coffee. I feel so comforted and happy after eating these things, but within the hour I feel tired and I have to go back to bed to sleep off the effect.

Even though I've been eating well for a month now, and I am losing consistently, I still have trouble. Today I got up and wanted to eat a bagel, but I chose not to because I remembered it was the 4th and we are having ice cream this evening. I am going to eat my ice cream and I hope that it doesn't screw everything up.

mars735 07-04-2015 03:20 PM

Magistra :welcome3: to the thread!

:wave: Amyniagara

On my way out the door to BBQ and will check in later. Enjoy the day (and ice cream too, if it's on your menu!)

mars735 07-05-2015 12:04 AM

Magistra I enjoyed reading about your comfort foods & fond memories around food traditions. I don't think enjoying them in the way you described means you are addicted to them. It's natural to have a craving for something like a bagel, esp. when you are both low carb and low calorie.

I think where addiction comes into the mix is when eating those things triggers you to want to eat more, more, more, even when you are full. Imo, addiction is an extension of 'normal'; it's the behavior of repeating pleasurable experience and forming habits. Then there are the beliefs about the habits and the power we ascribe to them.

There is much research describing neurologic structures and chemicals involved in addictive behavior. For me, it's the way certain foods loom large in my day to day thinking. And the feeling that there is not enough of those foods on the planet to satisfy me, especially once I begin to eat them.

I firmly believe it's possible to find peace around triggering foods. I'm not sure what that looks like at this point, though! :) I'm working on abstinence from sweets for the time being. I'm finding I don't miss them nearly as much as when they were included in my WOE.

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Originally Posted by Wannabehealthy (Post 5180461)
Mars, I want to add something. You need to learn not to be so nice. When someone offers you something, sweets, wine, learn to say "No thank you, I don't care for any." No explanation about sugar etc.

:yes:
I had a little ice cream today, The good news is that I enjoyed it without being triggered to want more more more. There was no sweet binge afterward. :carrot: The not so good news is that I ate it because of feeling social pressure, which was more in my own head than anything from my friends. :(

mars735 07-05-2015 10:02 PM

Sugar free resumes today. 15/16 days.


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