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freelancemomma 04-19-2014 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Bellamack (Post 4986543)
You need a different doctor, because if you are eating what you say & exercising you have an underlying problem. Have your doctor check all your thyroid hormones, not just TSH, check T3, T4 & free T3 & T4. I would also have your adrenals checked. There is NO WAY you shouldn't be at an ideal weight eating like you stated, especially at your age.

I agree. I'm 57 and would lose weight steadily if I ate what you do. If you're being completely honest about what you eat, you need to have lab tests done.

F.

LovelyDisaster 04-19-2014 11:57 AM

I did lose 2 lbs this week but if it doesn't continue I will try to find a new doctor and get a second opinion. Thank you for your input :)

Pattience 04-19-2014 03:45 PM

I think bellamack and freelance momma have missed something. Those foods are not what she's been eating over the years but what she's just started doing. I think that's the case isn't it?

LovelyDisaster 04-19-2014 05:51 PM

I have been eating healthier for about a year but I REALLY started eating super healthy this month. Sorry for the confusion.

rockieroad55 04-20-2014 08:46 AM

Hi , I've read your posts and I can identify a lot with how you feel sometimes.. I've struggled for years to lose weight and finally just gave up.. well, I had a friend who started losing and so I tried again.. long story short, for me, it was a process of taking things out of my daily diet that caused cravings. . I did some unusual things, but went strictly no carb and then low carb, among other things, I came to a point where I wasn't so hungry all the time, and that made it possible to eat in a very healthy way. I assumed that I had an eating disorder because I'd get stressed out and head for a carb binge. . now, if I have any kind of feeling of doing that, I mix a small protein shake and drink it.. I tell myself, well if that's what it takes I'll do it.. I wish you the best of luck in getting to where you want to be with your woe.

Wobbly 04-20-2014 01:10 PM

Somebody mentioned lab results.

"Although some individuals with Anorexia Nervosa exhibit no laboratory abnormalities, the semistarvation characteristic of this disorder can affect most major organ systems and produce a variety of disturbances. The induced vomiting and abuse of laxatives, diuretics, and enemas can also cause

a number of disturbances leading to abnormal laboratory findings.
Hematology: Leukopenia and mild anemia are common; thrombocytopenia occurs rarely.

Chemistry: Dehydration may be reflected by an elevated blood urea nitrogen (BUN). Hypercholesterolemia is common. Liver function tests may be elevated. Hypomagnesemia, hypozincemia, hypophosphatemia, and hyperamylasemia are occasionally found. Induced vomiting may lead to metabolic alkalosis (elevated serum bicarbonate), hypochloremia, and hypokalemia, and laxative abuse may cause a metabolic acidosis. Serum thyroxine (T) levels are usually in the low-normal range; triiodothyronine (T) levels are decreased. Hyperadrenocorticism and abnormal responsiveness to a variety of neuroendocrine challenges are common.

In females, low serum estrogen levels are present, whereas males have low levels of serum testosterone. There is a regression of the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadalaxis in both sexes in that the 24-hour pattern of secretion of luteinizing hormone (LH) resembles that normally seen in prepubertal or pubertal individuals.

Electrocardiography: Sinus bradycardia and, rarely, arrhythmias are observed.

Electroencephalography: Diffuse abnormalities, reflecting a metabolicencephalopathy, may result from significant fluid and electrolyte disturbances.

Brain imaging: An increase in the ventricular-brain ratio secondary to starvation is often seen.

Resting energy expenditure: This is often significantly reduced."

What can muddy the waters are false positives.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensiti...nd_specificity

Pattience 04-21-2014 12:07 AM

Wobbly I don't think Lovely is anorexic at the moment. I mean she's not anorexic at the moment so she should be beyond all those problems mentioned in your post.

The body can recover from most imbalances and dietary deficiencies and even most illness and conditions. There are often some ongoing problems or weaknesses in a body stressed from anorexia but not necessarily and its unlikely they are things that mean she can't lose weight. The metabolism recovers. Even starvation induced hypothyroidism i think is a curable.

So i'm just wondering what point you were actually trying to get across cause its not too clear to me.

I don't think lovely is an ordinary binger like so many of us here on this site and like you and me Rockie.

Kscott 04-21-2014 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by LovelyDisaster (Post 4986540)
I guess I didn't mention how I'm eating, just how much. I was in a bit of a panic mode but I've since tried to calm down and talked to my wonderful sister.

Anyway, I normally start my morning with either fresh fruit or a protein bar if I'm in a hurry and I grab a bottle of water when I head to work. I teach so I can't really snack throughout my day. For lunch I try to have a salad (lettuce, tomatoes, carrots, and sometimes black beans) and for dinner I eat with my family so it's normally some kind of lean meat with vegetables on the side. I have some vitamin deficiencies I can't control with supplements so I can't completely cut out certain foods like steak and fish but I do eat them in moderation. If I do feel the need to snack I choose fruits typically or a small bit of something with protein. I avoid sugars and pasta and don't eat any fast food anymore. I think I'm eating healthy, but maybe I'm missing something?

It's all about calories. One man told a doctor, I don't understand all this weight gain, I eat healthy along with 40 oranges a day haha. Now I assume this is true because it was on T.V. 40 oranges of course adding 4000 calories a day to what he was eating, in other foods.

So stay within your goal weight calorie intake, number one rule. Second try to keep your total calorie intake around healthy choices, BUT don't kick yourself because you swayed over to the cake and ice cream table to eat a small portion. As long as your total calorie intake is adjusted toward your goal weight you're going to lose weight regardless of the type of food you're eating. Just remember its CALORIES in versus CALORIES burned through daily activity or exercise.

Third don't try to compete with your husband as far as the amounts he can eat, and or weight loss. Men can eat many more calories per day than women, and not gain weight. Their bodies have more muscle mass and they burn calories faster, are capable of loosing weight faster, and are typically physically more active in their daily routines.

So this is for you and you alone.

Wobbly 04-21-2014 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Pattience (Post 4988385)
Wobbly I don't think Lovely is anorexic at the moment. I mean she's not anorexic at the moment so she should be beyond all those problems mentioned in your post.

The body can recover from most imbalances and dietary deficiencies and even most illness and conditions. There are often some ongoing problems or weaknesses in a body stressed from anorexia but not necessarily and its unlikely they are things that mean she can't lose weight. The metabolism recovers. Even starvation induced hypothyroidism i think is a curable.

So i'm just wondering what point you were actually trying to get across cause its not too clear to me.

I don't think lovely is an ordinary binger like so many of us here on this site and like you and me Rockie.

I think I am losing the thread of this thread. :dizzy:

LovelyDisaster 04-21-2014 11:56 PM

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Okay. I feel that somehow my post was confusing so let me clear some things up.

1. I don't binge. I never have. I am not a junk food junkie. The most unhealthy thing that used to be in my diet was the occasional soda and sweets during the holidays. I don't stuff my face all day nor have I ever.

2. I am not anorexic. I used to be. I started this thread on a day when I was considering resorting back to it but it was irrational and I was freaking out. It's not something I will do again. However, I am aware that it did some damage to my body that I am still recovering from.

3. I stay for the last week-two weeks I have been eating 1600 a day, or trying to. I won't lie, I find myself full so I don't always meet the 1600. I eat healthy foods like lots of vegetables, nothing but water to drink, lean meats, fresh fruits, and the occasional protein bar when I'm in a pinch. I'm not an idiot. Just because I'm counting calories doesn't mean I'm trying to fit some cookies and candies into the mix. That's just counterproductive.

4. I am also in no way "competing" with my husband. The man is a toothpick with an invisible tapeworm or something judging by the way he eats. My comments about him are just that, COMMENTS. He eats what he wants and stays thin while I don't, of course I'm a little jealous but I get it. It's not like it's a factor in my own diet. He's trying to bulk up while I try to bulk down. Totally different places with our diets right now. So you will understand what I mean by him being a toothpick I will share a picture of my sexy husband :) He could care less what size I am so this weight loss journey is for me and me alone. (Sidenote: in that picture I am at my goal weight of 150 lbs, here's for fitting back into those shorts!)

I feel as though Pattience is the only one really understanding all of this at the moment. Lol. Hopefully this can clear some things up.

Kscott 04-22-2014 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by LovelyDisaster (Post 4989116)
Okay. I feel that somehow my post was confusing so let me clear some things up.

1. I don't binge. I never have. I am not a junk food junkie. The most unhealthy thing that used to be in my diet was the occasional soda and sweets during the holidays. I don't stuff my face all day nor have I ever.

2. I am not anorexic. I used to be. I started this thread on a day when I was considering resorting back to it but it was irrational and I was freaking out. It's not something I will do again. However, I am aware that it did some damage to my body that I am still recovering from.

3. I stay for the last week-two weeks I have been eating 1600 a day, or trying to. I won't lie, I find myself full so I don't always meet the 1600. I eat healthy foods like lots of vegetables, nothing but water to drink, lean meats, fresh fruits, and the occasional protein bar when I'm in a pinch. I'm not an idiot. Just because I'm counting calories doesn't mean I'm trying to fit some cookies and candies into the mix. That's just counterproductive.

4. I am also in no way "competing" with my husband. The man is a toothpick with an invisible tapeworm or something judging by the way he eats. My comments about him are just that, COMMENTS. He eats what he wants and stays thin while I don't, of course I'm a little jealous but I get it. It's not like it's a factor in my own diet. He's trying to bulk up while I try to bulk down. Totally different places with our diets right now. So you will understand what I mean by him being a toothpick I will share a picture of my sexy husband :) He could care less what size I am so this weight loss journey is for me and me alone. (Sidenote: in that picture I am at my goal weight of 150 lbs, here's for fitting back into those shorts!)

I feel as though Pattience is the only one really understanding all of this at the moment. Lol. Hopefully this can clear some things up.

We'll I am now a little confused. How is it you were considered anorexic at 5' 1" at 140 lbs.? The reason I ask is because my daughter is an NP who has worked with patients who were anorexic, and being that height they would normally be well below 100 lbs. before medical intervention would occur? In fact 140 lbs. is my goal weight and I am 5' 7" and at that weight I would be normal size and not considered skinny. At any rate, it sounds like you're doing everything right, so is it that you're discouraged because you think you should be losing weight faster? Also I haven't seen one picture where you even look close to 200 pounds, are these old pictures?

LovelyDisaster 04-22-2014 12:45 AM

Okay now Im starting to get frustrated. This picture was AFTER i went to the hospital and got help. I wore a size 5-7 at 140-150 lbs. Im curvy and Im muscular, I have always looked like I weigh less than I do. At 120 lbs I wore a 0-3 and that is when I was anorexic. I also posted a photo of myself currently in my very first post. It wasnt a great picture bit its all I have.

Now, anorexia has nothing to do with the size of a person. It is a medical condition. A friend of mine recently recovered fromanorexia and guess what? She weighs 250 lbs. Being skinny doesnt make you anorexic, refusing to eat does.

I am discouraged because for the past six months I have been dieting and I gained weight. However, i changed things up and now I am losing again. 4 pounds in a week and a half to be precise.

LovelyDisaster 04-22-2014 12:58 AM

Also, im sick of people thinking that just because im short I should be like 110 pounds. Like i said, I was 150 in the picture above and i think I looked pretty darn good. Those shorts are a size 7, i know because theyre still in my closet.

I thought this was suppose to be a place for support? Not judgement or interrogations. I feel like ive gotten more questions about my anorexia or proving that im not secretly binging than i have assistance or support in this situation. Its very unsettling and rather... idk the word im looking for. It makes me feel like im on trial for a disease im already embarrassed enough about. Having to be honest by admitting i had a problem is hard enough without people trying to give you a psych evaluation. Im probably over thinking all of this, i dont think this is the healthy support group of loving indivifuals i was looking for. Im sorry i wasted all of your time.

God bless and I wish you all well with your weight loss journeys. And thank you to the few of you who were so helpful and kind. Youll never know how much i appreciated it.

Pattience 04-22-2014 02:54 AM

Lovely you and your toothpick fella are so darn sexy.

Don't take the misunderstandings to heart. Its common here. People tend to read posts too fast and miss what people are really saying (i do it all the time too and i see it a lot).

Don't be angry. Just keep on doing what you know is right. And if you need support, find a counsellor. I love having a counsellor but when things are going right, i feel bored. When things are a bit of a struggle, i can't find one fast enough.

I think it must be hard for someone with anorexia to find the right sort of support on diet boards because most of us do not share your kind of difficulty. Here we (like to think) we know about how to lose weight but most people don't know much about anorexia.

We know a lot about binging and overeating and all sorts of other unhealthy food behaviours. I only know a bit about anorexia because of the job i had and the extra reading i did about it. I wish you well lovely.

Munchy 04-22-2014 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Kscott (Post 4989122)
We'll I am now a little confused. How is it you were considered anorexic at 5' 1" at 140 lbs.? The reason I ask is because my daughter is an NP who has worked with patients who were anorexic, and being that height they would normally be well below 100 lbs. before medical intervention would occur? In fact 140 lbs. is my goal weight and I am 5' 7" and at that weight I would be normal size and not considered skinny. At any rate, it sounds like you're doing everything right, so is it that you're discouraged because you think you should be losing weight faster? Also I haven't seen one picture where you even look close to 200 pounds, are these old pictures?

There is a classification in the DSM-5 under OSFED (formerly EDNOS) which is:
"Atypical Anorexia Nervosa: All criteria [for anorexia] are met, except despite significant weight loss, the individual’s weight is within or above the normal range."

Some people can truly have all of the mental struggle and even lose a tremendous amount of weight without being underweight - you don't need to display as very underweight in order to suffer from the internal health issues that anorexia causes.


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