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Originally Posted by hhm6
Wow rubidoux! You've given me a lot of info to think about there! I am actually on a low card diet right now! I'm doing the Dukan diet(which is low carb) my only carbs come from oat bran and flaxseed which I have in the morning.
So what about when you workout? Do you ever feel really sleepy or tired without eating? I imagine I would feel that way but granted I have never tried! So you actually would consume wayy less then right for your daily intake?
I actually don't calorie count at all on my diet but if I eat a little later than usual it really bugs me! even if it isn't carbs, just protein+veggies. I really want to try it though! esp since my weight has been MUCH slower in the 170s it just feels like a drag!
Also, last question is this something you would do long term or just right now to lose the weight??
Thanks rubidoux!! sorry I know I'm bombarding you with questions!!
No problem!

People don't ask me about IF'ing enough! lol
I actually feel much more energetic during the day when I eat this way. I think IF'ing is part of it but being in ketosis is huge. Do you know if you're in ketosis? Or how many grams of carbs/protein/fat you're eating in a day? Generally speaking, the lower your carbs (probably want to be under 20) and higher your fat is, the more likely you are to be in ketosis. A lot of people can eat however much protein they like and be ketotic, but some people need to limit their protein. Also, it takes most people around six weeks to get into a real deep ketosis. If you do something like atkins, and probably dukan, you should go into ketosis in the first week or so, but then later you get another notch deeper. When that happens to me I get this huge surge of energy. So much so that it has been embarrassing at times. I talk to much.

It's a great state for exercising, too!
One thing that might work for you is to have an all fat or fat/protein breakfast. A lot of people do bullet proof coffee, which I don't find terribly appealing (coffee, butter, coconut oil). I like just coffee w HWC. But you could do a couple of pieces of cheese or several slices of bacon. (On another forum I read a post by a woman who said that bacon was her magic meat and that she had lost 70 pounds eating all the bacon she wanted. So, I went with it! Lost a ton of weight, but bacon is not even a little appealing to me anymore. lol) The thing about fat is that it will really satisfy you and you go hours without needing to eat again if you have a sufficient amount. When I used to have a 2 pm meal, it was between 4 and 6 slices of bacon, however much I felt like that day, but somehow after you've had 6 slices of bacon, you just don't need more.
Anyway if you start with this fat meal in the morning, and I'd maybe push it later than your norm by as much as you can stand, maybe an hour, then you may not want to eat again until pretty late in the day. And if you really start seeing what fat is doing for you, you may want to add in more elsewhere and everything will be all different and change around and you will forget when you were supposed to have b'fast lunch and dinner. lol The appetite suppression is really intense. Like, there was a period for me of several weeks when just the thought of eating made me feel kinda nauseous. It sounds kind of awful, I know, but it's actually very liberating. And if you understand that you're feeling nauseous bc your body is burning a ton of fat, somehow that seems just fine.
And, btw, I actually don't eat all that much fat these days. It's a large portion of my daily calories, but bc I tend to eat around 1100 cals or less, it's not actually all that much fat. Most days I'll eat about 3 T HWC, 1 whole avocado, 2 salmon patties, and 1 ounce of cheese or 1 ounce of almonds. Lately I've been adding a little wedge of dark chocolate to that, too. But when you're getting started, I think its good to eat a lot of fat bc it really pushes you further into ketosis.
I actually think I'd like to be doing a lot of this long term. I may add in some veggies, salads here and there, if I can get away with it. And maybe a longer fast here and there will balance that out and keep my weight stable. I'm not sure how it'll work, but I am very committed to once a day eating and I can definitely imagine incorporating longer fasts into it even after I'm done losing. It's supposed to be really great for your health and longevity and it's definitely great for my blood sugar.
ETA: It's been a long time since I read about this stuff online, so I'm not sure where to send you, but if you google "bullet proof coffee" and "intermittent fasting nutritional ketosis" I think you'll find a lot of good stuff.