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sontaikle 03-21-2012 02:41 PM

Are you counting calories? If so, just eat what you're eating and count each bite. Hopefully you're one of the people who can eat whatever they want and lose (I am). :)

Otherwise you've lost 40lbs...you're obviously doing something right!

peachypeg 03-21-2012 02:41 PM

Have you had that conversation with your parents yet?

chibir3dpanda 03-21-2012 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by peachypeg (Post 4262386)
Have you had that conversation with your parents yet?

No and its not something I plan on.

Only Me 03-21-2012 02:46 PM

No one on this thread said that. No one has said not to eat pbj daily, as far as I can see. Everyone has said to pay attention to portion sizes, that's all.

Didn't someone lose weight on a twinkie diet a couple of years ago?

Point is, it doesn't matter what you eat, it's all just a matter of calories in and calories out for losing weight. Nutrition and health are a different question.

chibir3dpanda 03-21-2012 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sontaikle (Post 4262384)

Otherwise you've lost 40lbs...you're obviously doing something right!

Yeah I guess but that was just by starving myself. And I'm not one of those people who can eat whatever they want. So I don't even know what I'm supposed to eat anymore that's not going to make me fatter. I should go back to frickin starving myself. Food is pointless if all its gonna do is make me fat.

Thistleberry 03-21-2012 02:56 PM

The point is that your body needs food to live. Starving yourself isn't going to help anything and will eventually make things worse. Why put yourself through that very special kind of **** when you don't have to?

It sounds like you don't buy your own food so you seem to have some limitations on what you have to eat. Is it possible to talk to the person who buys your food and request some healthier options? It sounds like you already are making healthier choices; good for you! That's not a small thing.

As Only Me said, eat your oatmeal and your apples and peanut butter. There is nothing wrong with those things. Maybe now you just need to introduce a little more healthy variety into your diet. (And nobody said it has to be fruit.) You have to dig a little, find out what might work for you and what works with your current obstacles (not being in charge of groceries?) and then implement it and see if it does work for you. Search the boards, they're a great help. Look at other people's daily menus. Ask questions! We can give you support but you have to want it for yourself and you have to work for it.

chibir3dpanda 03-21-2012 02:58 PM

I can't eat in portion sizes, that's not that easy for me. I don't have time to measure out a cup of pasta, or cereal. And even if I do eat in portion sizes, I'm still aways hungry.

Only Me 03-21-2012 03:08 PM

:hug: Honey, if eating in reasonable portion sizes was easy for any of us, we wouldn't be here. I lost 20lbs or so when I was 18 by eating pretty much nothing. Didn't last, did it? 20 years later, I wish I was as light as I was before I started that "diet". And you have to eat to live. Retraining yourself to eat normal portion sizes, even if it isn't easy, is what you have to do to lose weight and maintain weight loss.

chibir3dpanda 03-21-2012 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Thistleberry (Post 4262408)
The point is that your body needs food to live. Starving yourself isn't going to help anything and will eventually make things worse. Why put yourself through that very special kind of **** when you don't have to?

I can't eat things without eating too much. So I just decided to starve myself. And I'm kinda thinking about doing it again. Every day I continuously fight with myself over what to eat. And I'm tired of it.

How my morning goes: I desperately want cinnamon toast crunch. Oh wait, that will make me fatter. Looks like I'm eating stupid boring oatmeal once again.
Dinner: my dad asks if I wanna go out to eat at my favorite chinese restuaraunt. Oh wait, thats right I can't. I'll get fatter. Looks like I'm eating an apple for dinner once more.

(I'm not trying to be mean at all please don't think I am. I'm just extremely frustrated with my weight and food. Not to mention I'm extremely depressed.)

Thistleberry 03-21-2012 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by chibir3dpanda (Post 4262412)
I can't eat in portion sizes, that's not that easy for me. I don't have time to measure out a cup of pasta, or cereal. And even if I do eat in portion sizes, I'm still aways hungry.

You're trying to sell us on the idea that you haven't got the 3 seconds it takes to measure out some cereal? To me it sounds more like you don't want to make the effort.

Protein and fiber are your best friends for feeling full. Throw in some less calorically dense foods and you'd be surprised how much less hungry you'll feel.

chibir3dpanda 03-21-2012 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Only Me (Post 4262424)
Retraining yourself to eat normal portion sizes, even if it isn't easy, is what you have to do to lose weight and maintain weight loss.

But I can't do that :'( its just easier to starve myself.

Munchy 03-21-2012 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by chibir3dpanda (Post 4262412)
I can't eat in portion sizes, that's not that easy for me. I don't have time to measure out a cup of pasta, or cereal. And even if I do eat in portion sizes, I'm still aways hungry.

Measuring doesn't take time at all! I have spoons that have measurements on them, but you can use a scale with a plate on it, or a measuring cup itself to scoop. It doesn't take much more time than any other way to get your food from a pot to a plate.

Volumetrics eating helps a lot of us. Swapping veggies out for half of your foods will help tremendously with your appetite. Things like low-calorie, vegetable-rich soups can be a life-saver.

My nutritionist always said that half of your plate should be non-starchy vegetables.

I like to mix my vegetables right into my dishes so that I know I'm getting the appropriate amounts. For example, I may think that 2oz of dry pasta is not a lot, but if I saute a LOT of mushrooms, peppers, and spinach and mix that into my pasta then it's a huge, satisfying bowl for few calories. When I make macaroni and cheese, I do half broccoli, half macaroni, or my chili recipes always have a huge mixture of veggies including squash, zucchini, etc. Cauliflower is a great puree to mix with potatoes, and so on.

Thistleberry 03-21-2012 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by chibir3dpanda (Post 4262434)
But I can't do that :'( its just easier to starve myself.

Thats unlikely. The easiest things is probably to overeat, really.

But you don't want that. I hear your frustration. I totally understand your frustration! What I don't understand is your unwillingness to take responsibility for your own body. You get to decide what you put into it. Focus on what you CAN eat instead of what you can't and you'll be much happier for it.
Seriously, making attention-grab statements about starvation isn't going to help you reach your goals.

sontaikle 03-21-2012 03:20 PM

Ok, DON'T starve yourself :( Food doesn't make you fat. Too MUCH food will make you fat.

You're going to need to experiment to find out what you can eat. Even though I can eat whatever I want in proper portions and lose/maintain, I need to make sure I eat mostly unprocessed foods and get enough protein otherwise I don't feel all that great. I've lost weight eating whatever the heck I want (even fast food), but I FEEL best when I eat good food.

Peanut butter is pretty good for you, actually, so don't worry about eating it. Just be careful because it is high in calories. You may have to measure out a serving and take the extra effort to do so if you want to get serious about losing weight.

If you eat a lot of the same things then you will only have to measure for a little while. After a period of time you'll be able to eyeball how much one cup is or 2tsp is, etc.

Munchy 03-21-2012 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by chibir3dpanda (Post 4262425)
I can't eat things without eating too much. So I just decided to starve myself. And I'm kinda thinking about doing it again. Every day I continuously fight with myself over what to eat. And I'm tired of it.

How my morning goes: I desperately want cinnamon toast crunch. Oh wait, that will make me fatter. Looks like I'm eating stupid boring oatmeal once again.
Dinner: my dad asks if I wanna go out to eat at my favorite chinese restuaraunt. Oh wait, thats right I can't. I'll get fatter. Looks like I'm eating an apple for dinner once more.

(I'm not trying to be mean at all please don't think I am. I'm just extremely frustrated with my weight and food. Not to mention I'm extremely depressed.)

You sound just like me as a teen. Starvation is not the way to go. I finally figured out that it's not about NOT eating, but about PLANNING what to eat.

I need the details planned in order to be successful, because just saying "I'm going to eat healthy!" never worked for me and always resulted in me not eating at all and really did a number on my metabolism after 17 years.


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