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tiniree 01-15-2010 09:45 AM

Does Biggest Loser Send Wrong Message??
 
I have watched the Biggest Loser since the first season and was always filled with admiration for the contestants. I knew it must be extremely hard to be so overweight and go on national t.v. and expose not just your huge belly, but your inner emotions as well.

Two weeks ago I joined weight watchers. I have approximately 35-40 pounds to lose. Not even close to the amount the contestants on TBL have to contend with.

But having had my initial "starting weight" weigh in and two weigh-in's since, and losing a respectable 3.4 and 2.8 pounds, I have a question?

Could the show be sending the wrong message to people who need to lose weight by having these contestants lose so much at each weigh-in? Last night at Weight Watchers I was standing outside the weigh in area and the woman being weighed cried out, "But I expected A LOT more than just 4 pounds! I was hoping for a double digit!"

I am concerned that the show, while having a very admirable goal, may not be giving the public a realistic view of "true healthy" weight-loss.

What is your opinion?

Marie

Eliana 01-15-2010 09:49 AM

I don't know. I have always assumed people knew that this was an unrealistic amount to lose and that given that it's television a "week" may be a very loose term.

As for the woman you heard, if it was her first week and she had a lot to lose, double digit numbers aren't out of the question. I lost 10-12 that first week.

paris81 01-15-2010 10:07 AM

I think it sends both the wrong message and the right message. I agree that it makes people think that they can lose loads of weight week after week. It's not made 100% clear (although you can figure it out if you want) that the contestants eat VERY low calories (I think they're all at 1200 a day) and work out for like, 8 hours or something--not realistic for the real world.

But the positive message that it sends is that every day people, not just Hollywood starlets, can lose weight and get in shape. I think that the show sends a positive message about fitness. Also, at the end of the season, you see them able to go home and lose weight, without all the fancy equiptment and trainers of the ranch, which is more realistic for regular people.

I think that it also sends an incorrect message about overweight people in general--all the contestants seem to allow themselves to be held back because of their weight, they let their weight get in the way of their lives. Their entire self confidence is wrapped up in their weight--I know this isn't an accurate picture of ALL overweight people, as I don't feel this way at all. Sure, some of my self confidence involves my appearance and therefore my weight, but most of it comes from other things, because I haven't let my weight hold me back in things I want to do. It's not how I define myself. This may be the case for some, but not for all.

mom4life 01-15-2010 10:24 AM

I used to watch the show and felt motivated at times to push myself to extremes then to give up. I would start getting discouraged that this is who I was meant to be....large.
They push people hard and you see the struggles. I have always worried about those that felt the same as me....like they couldn't do it and just decide to give up without trying.
I'm so thankful for shows like "I lost it" and "X-weighted," I was so motivated when I started watching the show that I made it a point to exercise everyday while the show was on (1 hour). I started with my Wii Fit Step workout, where I could watch the show as it was tracking my steps. From there I did other stuff as I was able to move better.
Now I use my treadmill as I watch the show. My dh tells me that I don't need that show anymore but I still find the motivation I need to not fall back to old habits.

Nada 01-15-2010 12:14 PM

It's always bothered me on a number of different levels. First, unrealistic expectations of normal weight loss, unrealistic expectations of amount, intensity and duration of exercise required, and finally the sight of morbidly obese people struggling to run or perform other activities isn't entertaining to me.

(I've always had a sneaking suspicion that many viewers tune in to laugh at the "fatties". My own insecurity may be showing here.)

honeybjones 01-15-2010 12:22 PM

My issue with the show is that they track pounds lost and not fat % lost. Maybe they do that behind the scenes but what America sees is pounds lost and that is ingrained in our psyche when in reality you want to alter your body composition for true lasting health and fitness.

L144S 01-15-2010 12:24 PM

I think for some it sends the wrong message, and that is for those that don't see how much work the contastants put it. But the right message is calories in vs calories out. I have a Bodybugg, which i woud have never heard about without the show, it has proven t me calories in vs calorie out is all about the numbers and a cookie/peice of chocolate is NOT the end of my "diet" nor do I have to throw it all away. If I exercise hard and stick to my calories, I can lose weight.

I think if you listen to what they are not telling you, it is all about lifestyle..

The other thing I have learned watching this show, mostly from the where are they now, is that I willl aways have to live my life as a fat person. I will always have to count calories, and I will always have to excerise. just because I now like th number on the scale does not change what I have to do to maintain how I got here and will have to do to stay here.

For me it has been a positive message becuse although I appriciate the game part of it, I can see how it has changed me...

randomcards 01-15-2010 12:28 PM

Well if people choose to be uneducated about weight loss and believe they can eat healthy and exercise a few times and lose 18 pounds a week then I have a hard time believing they were going to be successful long-term in the first place.

So I think TBL is great because A) It puts the spotlight on the issue, B) Shows that large people can work out hard and C) Focuses a lot on the "life change" that weight loss can bring vs. just winning a reality show.

So while it is not an accurate portrayal for "normal" people, I don't think anybody would want to watch a show about me creating a 500 calorie day defecit, going to the gym 4 times, and losing 2-3 pounds per week.

Tomato 01-15-2010 12:28 PM

No, I don't think the show is sending out a wrong message (at least not in the sense of your question). You are not comparing apples to apples. You cannot compare weight loss based only on diet to weight loss based on both diet and exercise [and massive amounts of thereof, to be precise]. Also, most, although not all, contestants on TBL have a lot more to lose than just 35 lbs and weight loss in the initial stage goes faster.
They are building muscle and weight lifting routines results in increased metabolism for a couple of hours AFTER the exercise. I can't imagine how long their metabolism remains elevated after 6hours at the gym.

19Deltawifey 01-15-2010 12:39 PM

I watched BL when it was in its 1st season they didn't have as much weight to lose as they do now. Plus when the show 1st started they had a women who weighed about 220 or less. They were all losing about 3 and 4 lbs a week. Now it seems like if your not dropping double digits on the show then you are a failure. I only watch the Finale of the show now. The BL is a show and if they were losing slowly like some of us do then the show wouldn't be as entertaining. When I hop on the scale Im happy when I see .5-2 lbs loss. Im not expecting 8 or more lbs to come off in a week. The BL is a show and what they do on there is unrealistic for the average person. I personally would not want to workout 8 hours a day just to lose 10 lbs in a week but thats just my opinion. Im shocked at how quickly some of them are losing weight I think a guy lost 100 lbs in 8 weeks thats really quick but a lot of them gain the weight back after the show ends. Losing weight is the easy part but sticking with the healthy lifestyle is the hardest part and a lot of the past contestants show that you can lose the weight but even they struggle to keep it off

caryesings 01-15-2010 12:55 PM

I personally get frustrated that this show receives so much attention, while there is a Lifetime show (I watch on line, don't have cable) called Diet Tribe that does it all so much better. Women who are supporting each other instead of competing against each other. They're doing it while living their real lives and are given a diet and exercise program they can do while holding down jobs, raising family, etc.

PastelApple 01-15-2010 02:26 PM

I think it does send the wrong message. It's very easy to watch the show and glorify the idea of weight loss instead of the actual process. People watch the show, I think, and come into weight loss with these completely unrealistic expectations, not taking into account that shows like the Biggest Loser create an environment in which weight loss, although it's never really easy, is much easier. The numbers become the main focus, although health is often taken into account as well, just on a minor level (I think.) Prizes aren't given for better cardiorespiratory health or lower blood pressure. The focus is on the pounds lost in context of what you previously weighed.

While logically a lot of people should be able to see that for most people those results are unrealistic unless in real world setting, where people have jobs and the like, it's very easy to buy into the idea of fast weight loss. I have. I'm still fighting that. I expect to lose a massive amount of weight in just a couple of days. It frustrates me that I have to wait, because I only see the results that people get in the media. I don't see their mental struggle.

I think most, if not all weight loss-related shows, have a negative impact on me...because it makes weight loss seem so easy. And it's just not. So, I end up feeling guilty for not being strong-minded, and then the cycle starts again.

Well, hopefully it won't this time. ;)

jgray321 01-15-2010 02:30 PM

I have gone back and forth on this. I used to think it sent the wrong message with the weight loss numbers, but people aren't stupid and they know that without all that hard work that weight doesn't come off so quickly. As for inspiring I think it depends on where you are, if you're ready to face certain things. I used to watch the contestants and think "if they can do it so can I" but wasn't really doing anything to prove it. For some reason this season I have been inspired to start trying. One thing that made an impression on me as well was watching Bob take on the weight of the contestant who weighs 430 pounds. To see how much of a struggle it is for a normal healthy person who is in good shape to carry around that much excess weight made me think of how much better I'll feel when I shed it.

If people want to watch the show to make fun of the fatties, which used to be my reason for swearing I'd never consider being on it, then they're the ones who have issues not the contestants. No matter where they start they've always lost the weight and most of them keep it off. That is something to admire no matter who you are because it's not something everyone can do. If you can't admire that then chances are it's because it's not something you could do. I'm just saying.

For now I'll keep watching and cheering them on.

saef 01-15-2010 02:39 PM

This is the cheesiest show I watch. It's my guilty pleasure, even more than any other reality TV show. I wince at its cheery forced infomercials for overly processed foods, the sound of the Scale of Doom beeping during its hour-long weigh-ins, the way the camera shakes when heavy contestants walk or fall, the prolonged close-ups on big bellies striated with stretch marks.

That said, watching people losing weight healthily would be as entertaining as watching paint dry. And while I wish I could see more scenes of contestants learning to cook & eat healthily, I think the producers are afraid someone channel surfing might see that part & confuse the show with one of the apprentice chef shows.

But I still value its message about getting out & moving. If I hadn't been watching this show, I would have missed the inspiring sight of Tara turning herself into an athlete. When I was intimidated by free weights, I remembered the heavy people on the "Biggest Loser" & their struggles. This is the only show I've ever seen where the entire exercise class or the whole population at the gym isn't already svelte & sculpted. These are not actors & actresses & fitness models & professional athletes trying to sell an infomercial device. I had never before seen so many fat people on machines, trying to get healthy, sweating hard, giving it their all. I remain thrilled by that sight. If the show has done anything, it's taken that from a laughing matter to something "heroic," as the trainer Bob keeps saying. I find there to be something of value in those images.

My concerns for the show mostly stem from how hard & how soon they push these contestants. I don't like the injuries. They keep getting bigger. I worry someone will die. That will end the show completely & undo a lot of the good I see it as having done.

dragonwoman64 01-15-2010 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by saef (Post 3097441)
This is the cheesiest show I watch. It's my guilty pleasure, even more than any other reality TV show.

me too. I make the joke when they pause for commercial before showing someone's weight loss number: how do you keep an idiot in suspense? (talking about myself here, ha)


Quote:

Originally Posted by saef (Post 3097441)
That said, watching people losing weight healthily would be as entertaining as watching paint dry.

I'd agree with that too.

they actually do track percentages lost, that's how they determine the winner.

in my mind, the show does set up the perception of weight loss being a superfast process if a person does the right amount of exercise and diets correctly. while that may have some grain of truth in it, I think it's unrealistic for the vast majority of people who have large amounts of weight to lose to think they'll do it in a matter of months (double digits every week).

I love watching the transformations. they helps me to envision how different my life and body could (and will) be. I definitely feel like watching it motivates me to exercise and eat better.

I am conscious as a viewer, and the contestants actually talk about it quite a bit, that it's the opportunity of a lifetime to have that kind of help around them to lose weight, to completely concentrate on their eating and exercise with trained professionals in an isolated environment. much more valuable than any money prize. Yes, there's some sacrifice of personal dignity that's made in the public eye, but how many people remember most of the past shows, and for how long do they remember them? only a handful of TBL contestants have stuck in my mind.

it does seem to inspire a good number of people in the outside world to get off the couch and put down the potato chips.

JayEll 01-15-2010 04:55 PM

I think there are two things to remember: (1) It's a TV SHOW. It is edited for plot, suspense, viewer excitement. (2) It's a CONTEST. In real life, weight loss done right is not a contest. On TBL the goal is to lose the biggest amount of weight possible in the weeks of the show. It's not to lose in a healthy way--it's all about how fast you can do it.

I do think that it can be disappointing for people who were expecting a double digit loss in the first week because they saw it on Biggest Loser.

Jay

Lizzie2010 01-15-2010 05:20 PM

I watched the last 2 episodes and the finale last season and got hooked. I cried and I was so motivated. I then watched the "Where are they now?" episode on Nbc.com (with all the repetitive reebok better butt sneakers commercials!) and was so incredibly inspired by everyone's stories, including the story of the winner who gained all his weight back. The show has people losing a lot of weight, yes. But look how huge they are! I've changed my stereotypes of really overweight people, I've become a lot more sensitive.

I like what one contestant said on one of the episodes... He thinks it's almost embarrassing to need to be on a TV show to lose weight. To think, you can't motivate yourself to do it, you need millions of viewers to do it? Well, hey, if it works for you! :-P I think we just need to accept that it's a TV show, it's obviously not 100% reality, but I think it sends lots of great messages. I won't reiterate what everyone's already said (more than I already have, anyway), but I'm inspired by people accomplishing things they never thought they'd do... Like when the mom from the white team (HEY GO CHICAGO!!!!!!!) learned how to swim this week, even though she had a phobia of the water.

In short, I watch the show as part of my "last chance workout" of the week (the day before I take my weekly break, lol), I cry a lot with my workout buddy, I support the contestants and everyone else trying to lose weight. I love the show, I hope more people find encouragement and motivation from it!

tiniree 01-15-2010 06:11 PM

Wow! Didn't expect such wonderful responses. I love hearing everyones opinion on this.

Marie

Aclai4067 01-15-2010 06:33 PM

I felt that this article pretty well summed up my feelings about the show http://www.burnthefatblog.com/archiv...os_and_con.php

LovebirdsFlying 01-15-2010 06:40 PM

Good article.

An eight-pound loss booed? Despicable.

tiniree 01-15-2010 09:19 PM

That is a great article! :cp:

fatmad 01-16-2010 08:48 AM

good and bad
 
what is good: I see most of the contestants as everyday people, (there but for grace go I) and I too could get massively overweight and very unhealthy if I don't work on this. I also find I can't just sit and watch, I get on the step or treadmill as I watch, and now I am exercising more regularly, just like that!

bad: I don't like the competition, and people being sent away. I have never watched before this season, but these people really need help to make change and they shouldn't be sent away....they should be supported. so the game aspect is what I don't like and I think is negative.
But there is lots of education for people about weight issues that is overall good.
When I think of other shows on TV, there are things I like and don't like in every show, take the good, ignore the bad or negative if you can.

mareneli 01-16-2010 09:23 AM

I like Biggest Loser, but you have to take it for what it is -- a reality show -- so that means it's going to be exaggerated. I wish they were a little more upfront about exactly what they are doing. I'd like to know how many hours they are working out -- I've heard it's all day, most days. I'd also like to know about calorie intake. How are they calculating each person's alloted calories? Give people more info so they can see exactly what the contestants are doing.

I don't like the unrealistic massive number of pounds lost every week, but I do like so many other things about it.

I had never tried jogging before, mainly because I didn't think I would like it, but also because I thought only thin people could jog. I discovered a couple of months ago that I do like it, and I can jog just fine with my chubby body. It was entirely due to Biggest Loser that I tried it. I like seeing them work out, because then I think "if he/she can do it, so can I."

So is some of it unrealistic? Yeah. But some of it is inspiring too, even on a basic level.

katkitten 01-17-2010 03:40 PM

wow! thanks for the tip about diet tribe! i'm watching the first ep right now! so inspiring!

kaplods 01-17-2010 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Aclai4067 (Post 3097792)
I felt that this article pretty well summed up my feelings about the show http://www.burnthefatblog.com/archiv...os_and_con.php


Excellent article!

losermom 01-17-2010 05:15 PM

I agree that there are good and bad things about the show. I don't watch it consistently though. I do like the fact that they are ordinary people and I feel like the encourages many to just give it a try. The "if they can so can I" approach. But I do feel like the huge weekly losses set too many ordinary folk up for disappointment. I never lost more than 3 lbs in a week during my journey. I usually lost 1 to 1.5 and even slower at the end.

dragonwoman64 01-17-2010 05:40 PM

really liked that articl too, thanks for posting

Ookpik 01-18-2010 12:07 AM

Good article!

xMeaganx 01-18-2010 07:21 AM

For me I think the biggest loser is inspirational and helps me towards my goal. I also realize that I'm not going to have that significant of a weight loss every week like they do! I think that it's good in it shows that weight loss can happen but we need to be realistic in what we can do with our own weight loss.

kaplods 01-18-2010 10:54 AM

I know that virtually everyone SAYS they know the show's losses aren't realistic (I believe them, or at least believe it's what they think), but before Biggest Loser existed, I don't remember ever seeing so many complaints on this board and others about "only losing 3 lbs." It seems that more and more folks ARE expecting much larger losses than ever before.

I think that on one hand, with the logical brain we "know" that those losses aren't possible in "real life" (because no one has the time to work out 6 to 8 hours a day unless they're independently wealthy and don't have a job or a life). And yet the emotional brain says "I want that too - if them, why not me."

Especially since the format hides how much work and time really went into those results. The week (which may not even be only a week) shows some intense exercising, but just a minute or so at a time. You see people being yelled at, and it encourages you to think of some of those folks as "slackers" (not realizing that your at-home exercise is probably 1/20th as long or as intense as the slowest, least achieving contestant). The show WANTS you to think that you would do better if you were there, you would APPRECIATE the opportunity, and you would be one of the ones that worked the hardest - Jillian would never have to yell at YOU.

It isn't that people don't think the show is unrealistic, it's that I think there's a big gap between the reality and many people's perception of just HOW unrealistic the show is. People aren't expextng to lose 20 lbs in a week - but they may expect still-unrealistic 5.

In part, because there aren't shows praising and making a big deal out of the 1, 2, 3, and 4 lb losses, I think people are losing sight of just how incredible even the smallest losses are. It's a big deal, and it should be treated like a big deal.

I don't think ONLY TBL is responsible for the rise in unreasonable expectations, we're an instant gratification society in more ways than ever before. I just feel that it's one of the largest barriers to lasting weight loss, because when you expect instant, and don't get it, that results in disappointment, and I think disappointment is the biggest source of failure when it comes to weight loss. People don't quit because they ARE failing, but because they feel they are failing (often interpreting success as failure because they think, for many reasons that it "should be" faster and easier than it is - so they must be doing something wrong).

losermom 01-18-2010 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kaplods (Post 3101925)
I don't think ONLY TBL is responsible for the rise in unreasonable expectations, we're an instant gratification society in more ways than ever before. I just feel that it's one of the largest barriers to lasting weight loss, because when you expect instant, and don't get it, that results in disappointment, and I think disappointment is the biggest source of failure when it comes to weight loss. People don't quit because they ARE failing, but because they feel they are failing (often interpreting success as failure because they think, for many reasons that it "should be" faster and easier than it is - so they must be doing something wrong).

Kaplods, this is so true! Especially the People don't quit because they ARE failing, but because they feel they are failing (often interpreting success as failure because they think, for many reasons that it "should be" faster and easier than it is - so they must be doing something wrong)

HMS 01-18-2010 02:41 PM

Great thoughtful comments ..... I still love watching the show though .... and I do admire the contestants for doing it .... good to see the ones that have had lasting success ....

Wild Vulpix 01-18-2010 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Aclai4067 (Post 3097792)
I felt that this article pretty well summed up my feelings about the show http://www.burnthefatblog.com/archiv...os_and_con.php

Wow. I wasn't aware that the contestants went through such extremes on the day before the weigh-in. Before I figured doing eliminations by weight as opposed to bf% was no biggie--especially because people at home can better relate to numbers on a scale than some bf% number. But now that I know the conditions they put themselves through, I do think it should be transferred over to bf%.


The first Biggest Loser season I saw was on YouTube and turned out to be Australia's Season 1. (Which is worth watching--there's so much unfair and so much "playing the game" drama in that particular season.) They came up with this strategy: if they were safe from eliminations (by winning a challenge or whatever), they decided to drown themselves with water to get those numbers as high as possible because they couldn't be eliminated. How cheap! Not only did they get immunity for that round, but it basically made them safe for the following week too! And the following week when they weighed in, free of their water weight, and it showed that they lost an incredible amount, the show actually praised them. What? They cheated! That's not something to praise! Smart, though ;)

MindiV 01-18-2010 03:28 PM

My husband KNOWS, from watching me lose and from me telling him so, that the BL losses aren't realistic. But when he started trying to lose during last season, he still found himself disappointed when he only dropped 3 or 4 pounds a week at first. I made him quit watching the show.

Skullarix 01-18-2010 04:28 PM

I think BL sends both the right and wrong message. I think it does make people think they can rip double digits off in a week, but I'm not sure people realize that the contestants work out for 6-8 hours a day.

Personally I find the show very motivational, and I never miss an episode now (just started watching 3 seasons ago).

I might have a different view because I listened to Jillian's radio show as well.

sweetnlow28 01-18-2010 08:10 PM

I have to say that I do like this show. I just started watching it this season. I saw it advertised during other seasons and it looked interesting but I just couldn't bring myself to watch it because I felt guilty that I wasn't doing anything about my weight. It's weird but that's how I felt. I am watching it for the first time and I find it inspirational even though I am sure, as others said, it may not be realistic.
My only criticism so far is that they don't really show us what happens behind the scenes in an average "Biggest Loser" day. I would love to know more about their diet and exercise routine. Do they go into more detail about these things in upcoming episodes or is what you see, what you get so to speak?
I am liking this season, I just wish it wasn't the same night and time as American idol. I am a reality TV junkie LOL

Ericabauw 01-19-2010 01:57 AM

i really didn't support the biggest loser, but now i find out my school is doing a university's biggest loser. for 50 bucks i get a professional trainer and its a 4 person team. grrrr i dunno what to do!!!! a real professional fitness expert and a chance to lose weight the right way with help for 50 bucks!?

haha i get the best advice on heres, so what does everyone think?

Wild Vulpix 01-19-2010 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Ericabauw (Post 3103407)
i really didn't support the biggest loser, but now i find out my school is doing a university's biggest loser. for 50 bucks i get a professional trainer and its a 4 person team. grrrr i dunno what to do!!!! a real professional fitness expert and a chance to lose weight the right way with help for 50 bucks!?

haha i get the best advice on heres, so what does everyone think?

Go for it!! 50 bucks for a personal trainer, and a support group, sounds like a pretty good deal to me! And if you don't, the "what ifs" may end up haunting you ;)

Mikan 01-19-2010 03:09 AM

I think it is an inspirational show for many people, however, like 100% of television shows it is completely fabricated and based on ratings. Those "challenges" are not only difficult for them to do, but the most dangerous part of the show. They could have spent that time working out, but instead they are risking getting hurt for less progress. I am 100% sure that the weight they lose did not happen in 1 week alone. I know many of you compare other televisions watchers to yourselves, but think of the many people who wouldn't think to access the internet, books or smart media on weight loss and the negative impact large numbers have on their own determination to lose weight. I think seeing them is really inspiring, but there is absolutely no information contained in the program- it is simply entertainment. They brush over workouts, food regimens, and small tips to make you feel like your getting something/ going to get some information, but in the end leave you hanging. I watch it to see if they will add something useful, but they never do. I find the most inspirational stories to come from this website because people lose weight at a healthy and believable pace and they don't need 'trident gum' or 'oral b toothpaste' to magically give them the powers to do so. (a jab at the commercialism in BL). Anyway, it is awesome to see them lose the weight, but I would love if it was realistic, and perhaps sponsored by an institution that supports American's weight loss goals for health? Maybe then we could see some real information.

30and300 01-20-2010 02:02 AM

I haven't watched TBL because I have been told, "Hey, some person lost 11 lbs last week on TBL, why can't you do that for a few weeks and get it all done!!!" heh. My reply was something like... "I'll get right on that, captain!" But I still wonder if a lot of people think big folks should get home from work & exercise for hours upon hours til they drop. Like it's some sort of twisted penance. =/


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