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kate looseme 09-10-2009 08:47 PM

Where to choose?
 
Hi guys,

I am not sure, if this is the right place to post it.

i need your inputs. Which one of these works? Please help.

1. nutrisystem
2. slimfast
3. tsfl
4. south beach diet
5. Jenny craig
6. Weight Watchers

I appreciate your reply.

thank you.

Kate

Onederchic 09-10-2009 08:48 PM

I've never tried any of those. I count calories. It's free, it's simple, it's flexible and it works..for me.

ladypeanutj 09-10-2009 09:02 PM

I think most everything works. You just have to find what suits you. I have known people that have suceeded with almost everyone of the methods you have listed.

I know that is not much help but it is the accurate.

Pita09 09-10-2009 09:15 PM

Any plan will work if you stick to that plan. I'm with Onderchic and I count calories. It's the easiest plan that I know I can stick to for the rest of my life.

Just remember that it's imporant to find what works for you and, don't be afraid to switch plans or even be bold and create your own. As long as you are getting the desired results you are groovin'. :)

Onederchic 09-10-2009 09:24 PM

Exactly, Pita.

If you work a plan and it works for you then you are doing it right. Sometimes, most times, it is a matter of trial and error to find it.

shcirerf 09-10-2009 10:00 PM

I agree with all of the above.

That being said, WW works for me. No food or drink is off limits, as long as you account for it and work into the program. And I enjoy the weekly meetings, and the info they give us, and the opportunity to visit with other folks in the same boat.

The meetings are sort of like being here, except it's in real life. We give each other support, suggestions, pats on the back, encouragement and so on.

You just have to find something that works for you that you can do for the rest of your life.

Different strokes for different folks. :carrot:

I'm a bit strange with my eating, even with WW. Some days I will eat a WW breakfast burrito, in my truck, on my way to work, some days, I make my own, some days, I will eat a tuna sandwich for breakfast, some days, oatmeal and fruit, just depends on my mood, but it's all good as long as I fit it into the plan.

I'm not a big exerciser, because I usually get my 10000 steps a day in at work, plus plenty of weight lifting. ( I work for a veterinarian)I concentrate my exercise on muscle toning and walking. High impact is out for me, bad knees. I like yoga, walking and swimming.

We all have to find the balance that works for us and the lifestyle we have.:dizzy:

sherrybwc 09-10-2009 10:26 PM

Counting calories here as well...

I've successfully lost weight (70lbs) low carbing, but to do it, I had to basically stay at 20 carbs per day for 9 months and it DID affect my health negatively...won't EVER do that again!

Then I tried Alli...followed the plan and religiously kept my fat grams under 20 a day so I wouldn't have any "treatment effects"...lost 47 pounds in 3 - 4 months. HOWEVER, I found it VERY difficult to stay on the plan at 20g of fat per day, so off the wagon I jumped.

Basically, I got tired of trying to trick my body into losing weight...it's better to do it the old fashioned way IMO, so I'm sticking with straight physics this time...eat less than you burn and, voila! Weight loss!

2+2=4 in any universe, KWIM?

Sherry

Thighs Be Gone 09-10-2009 10:29 PM

I have done several of the programs you have listed. I won't down any of them out of respect to others having success.

I am calorie counting--about 15 months in right now. I love it. It suits me. I can "fit" in anything I like. It's all about me. I am not waiting on a meeting, someone to open the door, a meal delivery or anything else. It's UP to ME!

kiramira 09-10-2009 10:29 PM

Hey, whatever you can stick to LONG TERM is going to be the best choice. ANY plan will get the weight off if you stick to it. The issue is how on earth will you maintain your weight loss if you "end" your diet and go back to the foods you choose to eat.

This is why I do WW...they have an awesome maintenance plan and I can make this program work during and after the weight loss phase.

Let us know what you do!

Kira

Thighs Be Gone 09-10-2009 10:30 PM

Sherry--LOVE your logic! Yep, you are right.

shcirerf 09-10-2009 11:21 PM

Whatever your choose, it needs to work for your body.

For me, I do best with lots of lean protein and complex carbs.

Sugary and proccessed foods don't work for me, due to strange food allergies. Chocolate gives me stomach cramps and fruit, although I love it also gives me stomach cramps, so I limit my fruit intake, it's not worth the pain. I love noisy crunchy food, so I've figured out how to make WW work for me. Carrots, Celery, microwave popcorn, almonds, grape nuts in my yogurt for noise.

I know it's goofy, but it works for me.

Our bodies are all different, and what works for one, might not work for the next.

As Jillian and Bob say, it's all about balance, I add, it's the balance that works for you!

mamaspank 09-11-2009 12:14 AM

WW, which is basically counting calories, worked for me. I tried all the low-carb stuff, and no dice. I love WW because do get to eat whatever I want -- just not as much as I would like to sometimes.

Alana in Canada 09-11-2009 12:22 AM

I use a portion control plan just because the idea of counting calories makes my head hurt: but I want flexibility. I also really, really hate other people telling me what to do! The old adolescent rebel kicks in! So, I find that an exchange plan is the best of all possible worlds, for me! Here's a great thread about it if you want more information.

http://www.3fatchicks.com/forum/gene...rt-thread.html

Essentially any and every plan works--or doesn't. It's not the plan: it's whether you stick to it and never, ever, say, "That's it, I blew it."

Just keep on swimming....

juliastl27 09-11-2009 01:06 AM

you have to weigh the pros and cons of each system for you. i am also a calorie counter. i NEED to be able to choose my own foods and if i hear "you CANT eat this", then that becomes all i want to eat, lol. i think WW is pretty similar to calorie counting.

from what i understand, jenny and nutrisystem both have their own foods that you have to purchase. consider if this is an affordable option for you, and also how long you intend to do it. my philosophy is that theres no point to a diet that you cant sustain forever, so plans with foods you have to purchase isnt a realistic option for me. slimfast isnt either, their supplement shakes are fine, but can i really keep that up for the REST of my life??

these are all things to consider. if you need a more flexible/low cost plan, calorie counting or WW might be for you.

if you need something more strict and structured and have the will power to permanently cut certain foods out for the rest of your life, a different plan might work. buying foods does get expensive tho, so also consider your financial situation.

any plan that works for you is a good one!!

ringmaster 09-11-2009 01:21 AM

If I could choose any, I'd probably go with Weight Watchers, and then follow a South Beach type food plan within my WW points. :smug:

lots of people have success with Weight Watchers. They teach you how to make it a lifestyle, and if you go to the meetings often you are more accountable. I think Jenny Craig is similar, but don't remember if they rely on their premade foods.

rockinrobin 09-11-2009 06:15 AM

What are YOU willing to stick with long term? Any program works, if you work the program. They all work if you adhere to them, they'll all fail if you don't adhere to them.

So, it's all about find what works for you and how much effort you're willing to put forth to make them work.

For me, I was finally willing to stick with something. That something was calorie counting. Built in portion control and accountability. I like the idea of having a calorie budget. Something to cease mindless eating and put the brakes on overspending my calories and taking in more food then I need. Counting my calories and wanting to get the very most from each one made me very choosy and particular with them and forced me to educate myself on good nutrition and what foods work for me and what ones don't. To me, it just makes the most sense and is the most reasonable and logical. And I am willing, more then willing to do this - forever.

But the truth is,, as brilliant as I think "my plan" is, the minute I stop making it work, putting forth that continuous effort - it WILL stop working. Not that I'm planning on ever, ever stopping, but just acknowledging the fact that healthful and mindful eating will always take thought and planning.

Lexxiss 09-11-2009 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ringmaster (Post 2920243)
If I could choose any, I'd probably go with Weight Watchers, and then follow a South Beach type food plan within my WW points. :smug:

I like your suggestion, ringmaster. I am losing successfully on SB and find my accountability at 3FC. Our WW group is very small here and doesn't work into my schedule. I am really interested in whole foods and was already headed in that direction, so for me SB is a "plan" I can follow and acheive my personal lifestyle goals at the same time.

What I love about 3FC is that there are so many forums and so much support that we can find our niche honoring the individuals that we are.

amynbebes 09-11-2009 09:22 AM

Of those, I would choose weight watchers because you're not having to eat a certain food. I'm another vote for calorie counting though, free and easy peasy :)

mayness 09-11-2009 10:15 AM

Like others said... any of those will work if you really stick to them, so choose whichever is most appealing to YOU. And don't be afraid to change later if it's too hard to stick with and you find yourself "cheating" because you feel too severely restricted.

I tend to have more respect for plans that have you eat "real" food at every meal (so not slim-fast, although I did that plan in the past and had success) and plans where you have to prepare your own food (so not nutrisystem or JC)... just because those are the plans that most closely reflect what you'll probably be doing for the rest of your life.

As for me, I count calories, using free web sites to keep track (I've used sparkpeople, fitday, thedailyplate, and others). The only real expense for me was a $20 digital food scale to weigh out my foods. :) But I know enough about health and nutrition at this point that I know what foods to eat, I just need to make sure I'm eating the right amounts. If you need more guidance about what constitutes a healthy diet, something like South Beach would probably help you.

time2lose 09-11-2009 10:31 AM

Pick a diet to match your personality
 
This morning I saw this clip from the Today Show and thought about this thread. They don't mention calorie counting but it would fit in that "flexible" category. It is interesting and helpful, IMHO.

Pick a diet to match your personality.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/261848...97137#32797137

tiggycat 09-11-2009 04:49 PM

I read somewhere that you shouldn't do anything to lose weight that you aren't prepared to do for the rest of your life to maintain your loss, and that made a lot of sense to me.

You'd have to decide if you like the food choices on any particular plan well enough to eat that way forever.

If you lose weight on any plan and then go back to eating like you did before, you will gain your weight back.

I've tried many different diets, and like someone else said, I don't want to be down on anything, because every plan will work for some people and not others.

If I was trying to make a choice from the options you listed, I'd probably try each one for a few days - not to see if I lost on it because nothing works that fast, but to be sure I liked the foods and that it worked with my personal situation (what does your family like to eat? do you have to go on business lunches? do you like to cook? how much time can you devote to planning and preparing food?).

sherrybwc 09-11-2009 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by juliastl27 (Post 2920231)
you have to weigh the pros and cons of each system for you. i am also a calorie counter. i NEED to be able to choose my own foods and if i hear "you CANT eat this", then that becomes all i want to eat, lol. i think

You see, that's ME! It didn't matter WHAT plan I was on, either. I was never much of a bread-eater until I started LC'ing, and then that's ALL I wanted. When I was using Alli, I swear I would have gleefully walked around sucking on a stick of butter if I could have stomached it!

Now, having said that, I'm not trying to put down anyone at ALL for LC'ing, taking Alli, SB, or any other plan. Like so many have stated in this thread, you have to find what works for YOU...and be willing/able to stick with it long term.

For me, counting cals is so much easier...but that's ME.

Hugs,

Sherry

bargoo 09-11-2009 05:53 PM

Another calorie counter here. I have done the others but prefer Calorie Counting for the reasons mentioned as well as it will carry over into maintenance and it is FREE !!!

Katie816 09-11-2009 06:22 PM

I've just started calorie counting and I like it a lot so far. Like others have said I need to be able to choose what I eat, and I can't stand things being off limits for good. Its also something I think I could keep up with for a long time.

kate looseme 09-12-2009 01:27 PM

WOW, great post everyone. Thank you for your reply.

Counting Calories? I'll try that hope it suits me.

There are times that I am lazy and an emotional eater and definitely be a hard time for me to do this.

DO you have qualities same as me? If you have how did you overcome it?

rockinrobin 09-12-2009 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kate looseme (Post 2922216)
WOW, great post everyone. Thank you for your reply.

Counting Calories? I'll try that hope it suits me.

There are times that I am lazy and an emotional eater and definitely be a hard time for me to do this.

DO you have qualities same as me? If you have how did you overcome it?

It's hard for everyone at times. That's not a reason not to do something. Those times, you just have to try HARDER. Good thing is, eventually eating well, counting calories and the such becomes second nature; automatic - and just not all that hard at all. It becomes just what you do and who you are.

Losing weight is hard. Being fat is hard. Choose your hard.

Being lazy? - I stopped being lazy. Hard work was required to get the job done - so hard work it was. I was sick and tired of being fat. I made the decision to do what was necessary to be the best me that I could be. When things really, really matter to you, you somehow find the time and the strength to do them. No matter what. Accepting no excuses.

An emotional eater? I stopped that as well. Adhering to a calorie budget puts the brakes on that. You find things to get you through the rough patches OTHER then food. Because really, the only problem food solves is that of hunger. NOTHING else. Eating for stress causes waaaay more problems then it solves.

For me getting the weight off (& keeping if off) became a NUMBER ONE PRIORITY for me.

Again, anything will work if you decide to MAKE it work. Really. Weight loss is a doable thing for anyone and everyone.

One more thing. I find that planning ahead of time is essential to success. Eating healthy simply won't happen on its own. HAve a plan in place. Budget out your meals and snacks in advance. Plan out every morsel that goes into your mouth. Have the right foods on hand. You can google healthy menus or even more specific, 1500 calorie menus and get ideas from that. Start experimenting. Start looking around. Do some research. Be creative.

Bottom line - decide to do this. COMMIT to doing it Commit to make it work and don't stop till you do!


Don't dread this healthy eating lifestyle. GET EXCITED ABOUT IT and the changes that you are going to make and the transformation that can and will occur. Get excited. Get moving. Get committed. Get into it. Get determined. Get going...... :)

gardenerjoy 09-12-2009 04:21 PM

Seconding rockinrobin's advice to plan. I'm writing my food plan every night for the next day. And it makes life so much less stressful. I don't face decisions about whether or not to have some treat -- if it's on the plan, I do; if it's not, I don't.

Another thing that helped even before I got the planning stuff working was making rules for myself. Anytime that I ate too much, either from laziness or emotions, I made a rule to prevent it the next time. For me, two rules had the greatest effect:
1. No eating in the car.
2. Eat nothing purchased at a drugstore, gas station, or mall.

I follow my plan and my rules because that's what it's going to take to get to healthy weight.

I'm a book person, so the other thing that helps a lot is reading. I continually have diet and healthy eating books checked out of the library. Even the ones with the diets that would never work for me have ideas and tips that are useful. The most useful to me so far were The End of Overeating by David Kessler and the books by Judith Beck.

And, 3FC helps a lot. Between my book reading and my participation on this site, I'm spending a lot of time focusing on my weight loss and doing it in ways that are pleasurable to me.

juliastl27 09-12-2009 05:16 PM

i agree with the above comments. luckily, after a few months, calorie counting does become second nature. HOWEVER, if, or more like when, you slip off track, you'll see how easy it is to fall back into old habits! you'll learn how to forgive yourself and move on. calorie counting also put the brakes on my emotional eating. you just have to be committed. you cant fudge your calories in your favor (i.e. fill that measuring cup heaping over the brim and then count it as a 1/4 cup, not counting those 5 potato chips). i used to do things like that at first, but then i realized that you're only sabotaging yourself. sure it feels great to look at the page and see that you stayed within your calories for that day, but when all those little "fudges" add up to no weight loss that week, it doesnt feel so great.

starting is the hardest part! once you get going things will get easier.

kaplods 09-12-2009 05:53 PM

For me, I do best when part of an in-person weight loss support group. I've done well on Weight Watcher's and in TOPS (Taking Off Pounds Sensibly) is a non-profit organization. Similar in some ways to Weight Watcher's, but members can follow any plan they wish, and the dues are much cheaper than Weight Watcher's, and there are ways to "win" small amounts of money and free dues for weight loss. Some months, I actually made a "profit".

My husband and I were going to a local TOPS meeting, and were doing well.

In our TOPS group, hubby and I were persuaded to run and accept officer positions as co-leader (me) and treasurer (hubby). My husband had said he didn't want to run, but he accepted the nomination (and so I voted for him). The books were an absolute mess, and my husband spent hours and hours getting the books to balance. Some of the club members (only a few) weren't happy with the way he was doing things, and would gripe (mostly of the "I don't want to do the work, but I'm happy to tell you how you should do the job". It really ticked my husband off, and he not only resigned he told me that he wouldn't step foot in another meeting, and if I wanted to continue going, he'd wait for me in the car. I was pretty steamed too, and I ended up quitting too.

I've managed to maintain my weight, but I really haven't been very successful at losing more since we quit the club. A weekly weigh-in and in-person meeting really help me alot. It keeps me focused and on-track, especially because there are often group incentives, and the teamwork approach really motivates me.

I'm seriously thinking about rejoining TOPS. There's a different group that meets on another night (though I probably would never run for an office
again). Hubby was more comfortable in Weight Watcher's, but we really can't afford both of us going to WW (we're both on disability, and it would be a stretch in our budget for even one of us to go).


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