ALTERNATIVE GROUP - November 11, 2001
 

We are a group of non-traditional lifestyle individuals. We are partnered, single, widowed, Pagan, Atheist, Agnostic, Christian, Muslim, gay, bi-sexual, bi-colored and straight. We bask in our diversity and unite in the same goal of losing weight. If you are relatively open-minded and accepting of ALL walks of life, please join us.

Time for a new thread, and some renewed interest!

Ruthie, are you doing okay after the extraction?

Goddess, your streak is going marvelously!

Flower, feeling better?

Amyjo, how goes the studies?

Lamorgan, how are you doing?

Goddess, my daughter battled for 17 days before she started to feel better. We were told it usually lasts a month in the active stage, but she is still contagious for up to two months. I'm glad she recovered as quickly as she did. She missed 3 weeks of school and is going to have a job ahead of her to catch up.

Flower, when my day goes bad or something makes me want to hide from embarrassment, you bet I want to fill up on comfort food. I want to go home, tune out the world, and feel sorry for myself while enjoying whatever it is that I want to eat at that time.

Well, I did some grocery shopping yesterday and I am climbing back on the wagon yet again. I don't care how often I have to, I refuse to give up.

Check in, girls! Let get this week off to a great start!

Good morning everyone! I get to sleep in on Sundays and it feels so wonderful not to have to get up and out of the house today.

The Skinny chips are yummy. I picked up some more. They are by a company called Cool Fruits Inc., out of California. Calories on the corn chips: 120 cal per 2 cups. I bought them at the natural food store nearby, $2.00 for 113 grams.

Diet is going pretty well. All the Halloween candy is gone, and as long as there is no chocolate in the cupboards I can stay on track better. I don't know what is harder though, craving chocolate or craving carbs. Sigh.

Anyone try Soy-nog?? I like it.

We're going to spend a day not going anywhere, just puttering around the house.

Remember way back when I asked everyone about whether their menses was affected by weight-loss? And I was the only one who seemed to have a changed cycle after 10 or 15 pounds? Well my new theory is the moon. Six days out of seven, I walk in the dark for 1.5 hours under the moon. My cycle has shifted so that I now menstruate when the moon is dark. And ovulate when it is full. Isn't that cool? This all started around 2 weeks after I started to diet, and started my paper job, way back in May.

Have a great day everyone!

Lamorgan.

Hello. Good Sunday everyone. I am glad for a new start. This past week has been a waste of time diet wize. The scale is at 182. Stuck I say. But since I am ammong the living again except for a tender throat. I should get back to business. I am not sure if the throat is due to allergies and post nasal drip or if the cold fairy has gottton me again. No biggie. A head cold I can handle.

I have to run up to Smiths and pick up some veggies. That is most of my problem. If I don' t have them in my freezer, how in the world am I suppose to eat them. I hate canned veggies and fresh are okay but expensive as h*** in LV. No farms here really. There is one in town but he is a pick yourself place. Farmers market on Thurs is good but pricey. Most of them are from CA or AZ. I am just gonna pick up a few items today and make a master list and go to Walmart and pick them out tomorrow. Gonna cut coupons and go through cookbooks today.

I have a big stack of work I brought home on Thursday. Haven't touched it. Bad flower!!! I have tomorrow off too. But in all honesty, I would rather excersice then do work or clean. My mom has some gardening she would like me to do for her. She has a green thumb but since I have the degree in Ornamental Horticulture, she calls me. Silly mom.

I saw Monsters Inc on Friday. I loved it!!!! ~flower

Great to hear from so many today. It's like Christmas sometime seeing all the new posts, heehee!
24th day of my streak and first day of my period and I'm seriously jonesin' for some chocolate--but I'm fighting ripping into that bag of chocolate chips! Maybe some hot chocolate with marshmallows would ease the craving....
La Morgan, My husband is an egg nog freak and we've tried the Silk soy nog--it is good. Hmmm, maybe I'll top my cocoa with it! :)
Flower--I just read your diary entry for today. Big hug to you! You truly sound overwhelmed. Don't attack that big pile of stuff all at once--sounds like you're still recovering from your week. Take it easy, sweet one! ;) And eat your vegetables! [okay, maternal episode over.]

Eydie

Hey guys!

Just a quick note... glad to hear that everyone is doing well. I am exhausted, I have a 5 day weekend next week which is killer since I am about to drop from going so much. I pretty much just chilled out this weekend, enjoyed DH and Kids. Trying to get as much Christmas shopping done as possible since I don't officially get out of school until Dec 11 and I don't want to be scrambling in the last minute crowds again(this has been pretty routine) I have my kids almost finish, have several family members left to by for but hey.... it is going pretty smoothly... last year I ordered most of the kids gifts on-line (which I am doing again this year) but I ordered them from a company that thought to be reputable- went bankrupt like 2 weeks after christmas and I didn't ever receive over half of the Presents so .. I was out the week before Christmas digging for something... it was terrible!!!

Wildfire ~ I am glad that DD is doing so much better.. I was out of school for almost 2 months in 5TH? I think it was awful... I don't think I have ever felt quite so bad. Glad you have such sticktoittiveness... it will eventually catch...

Flower ~ Glad your still doing good and yes I think every normal person that has a problem or has something happen(such as feeling stupid or doing something wrong) turns to food at some point you just have to find those triggers and put a stop to them... instead of popping in chips when it happens grab some gum or water... if that doesn't help .. go to the carrot sticks. :) Good luck sweetie...

Goddess ~ You still running on your winning streak? I can't say I have been 100% OP but I have stuck to my calories, just not always with the best foods :) but I deserved the cheating... I can't say that I didn't! Wasn't you guys that told me that as long as it wasn't to the extreme that every once in a while wouldn't kill me. Maybe not, I might have dreamed that!

Well, I am down a little more... I am 11 pounds from goal but have you ever been that close and still looked in the mirror and you don't see where you have changed? I know I wear smaller clothes I had to buy them but I just don't feel thinner and I don't look thinner to myself. What do you think causes that? I mean I know I have lost weight the scales say it, I know I have lost weight because my clothes show it, but I look in the mirror and I still see nothing but fat.... It is going on a year... that I have been on this diet and I have lost it slowly and methodically and it has taken forever so maybe since I see myself everyday that is why it doesn't look different? Any opinions on this? Gotta go... I will check in soon...

Hugs to all,
Amy
176/141/130

I can remember the surprise I used to feel when I looked into the mirror expecting to see a slim 20 year old, and instead saw the heavier nearly 40 year old I really was.

Now, after losing 20 - 25 pounds earlier this year, I seem to have forgotten the fact that I lost weight, and although I know I am slimmer, and feel great physically, I still feel surprise when people who haven't seen me in 6 months mention that I have really lost. In my head, it all is back again.

I still automatically look at larger clothes, and don't always give my self the credit she deserves.
Don't know if this is what you meant, but certainly our self image takes a long time to adjust to reality.

Lam

I posted yesterday and it didn't show up. I made person comments to everyone to! That just sucks! Anyways, hello everyone! Summer- are you lurking? Well, I have no time, I will try to get back on after Grif goes to sleep. My big boys want to play outside before the sun sets. ~flower

Amyjo--I have a story to tell you that always gives me hope that I really have changed. I was at a store a couple of years ago and across the way I saw this woman who looked strong and athletic, not skinny and not overweight. And I was thinking, 'that's the look I want. If I could look like her I'd be happy'. This all took a second and then I realized that across the way that was a mirror and I had seen my own reflection! I try to remember how that felt to see that I had really changed.
I'm trying to wrap my mind around the fact that I'll always have little pockets of flesh here and there and my belly will never be completly flat, etc. I'm a woman after all!
La morgan, when you said you still look at larger clothes it reminded me that I still look at all the fancy hair stuff [the barrettes and clips and such] and I had my hair sheared down to an inch long years ago. It's like I still have phantom hair! I guess when you lose weight you still have phantom fat, so to speak!

Hi Everybody! Don't mind me, I'm just typing my food lust away! I made a particularly succulent pasta dish tonight and I need to occupy my hands because I could so easily be all over it! I've already had a generous portion and I want my streak to continue. Day 27! Oh why am I such a good cook.........?! :lol:

Okay, I feel better. I just need to keep socking back water--I'm way below my quota today.
Thanks for being here! :)

Eydie

Where is everybody?

Ruthie, Wildfire, Flower, LAM, Summer (MIA forever now)... I miss you guys.... Goddess is all alone.... :)

Hugs,

Amy

Speaking of all alone, I'm really twisting in the wind on the food journal thread. Somebody come join me---Flower, I miss your vegetable feasts! How's it going?

Ruthie, How are you? Check in with us!

---Eydie :)

Hi, I'm here. But only for a second. Have to rush off to work, as usual. It's been a busy week, I've had evening things every night, and tonight I have to take my daughter to buy new shoes. Tomorrow we're back to our ballroom dance lessons...at least that's fun!

Will post this evening.

I only got a minute. Work is crazy with all these holidays. Got the same amount of work and less hours to do it in. I found out a friends husband died of brain cancer on the 29th yesterday. Wasn't very cheerful. When are they gonna find a cure?

I have a new hero. I want to be Angelina Jolie when I grow up. The body, not the life. :) I watched tomb raider last night. I LOVED IT! So, back to toning for me. My goal is to have curvy thighs, not lumpy and muscular toned arms! I want guys to think I am sexy but if they misbehave I can beat them up! :devil:

I haven't had enough veggies to post about Goddess. I am back to my routine today. I will post tonight, good or bad. ~audri/flower

Hello. I am bad. It has been 8 weeks since I had a soda and here I am drinking a pepsi. I am so freaking tired! My ex mom in law took the big boys to a private screening of Harry Potter last night. They didn't bring them home til 12:20 am!!! I was worried sick. This will be the last school night outing they have in a long time. We each had about 5 hours of sleep. It will be an early night tonight. I guess it isn't entirely their fault, the film didn't get there til 8:30 and it is 2.5 hours but still. Call me when the movie lets out! I was under the impression when they got picked up at 5:30 that it started by 7 ect... They loved it. I will wait 2 weeks to go. I am not big on crowds. As much as I want to see it, I can wait. The other thing that bugged me about last night is that she asked me to make sure they showered and wore nice clothes? As if I would send them in holey jeans. They were in school clothes. So I told them to shower and pretend it was picture day. And you know what, they came home in different clothes. What is up with that? This is the same people who would buy them toys that would only stay at their houses. Or designer clothes that were only worn over there. Riley had a Tommy H sweat suit that he had only worn twice before he out grew it. What a waste. I am poor compared to many in this city. I admit it. But I have a new car, a 2000 square foot house, several pets, a play station, closets of clothes and games and books , a computer. We are literate, well spoken, well mannered friendly people. We do not need to be treated like trailer trash. Stupid yuppy scum!!!! Thanks for listening! Am I bitter, yes a bit! Will I say anything. Nope, just gonna let it roll off my shoulders.

I need to walk daily for the rest of my life. This indoor excersice doesn't cut it for me. I can't handle being indoors all day. I will check out aqua class. That I can handle. I gotta get back in a routine. What is everyones plans for turkey day? (Canadians excluded :) ) I am just cooking for us I think. Gonna enjoy a nice 4 day weekend. I asked Chris for these 50 $ hiking shoes from Copelands for Yule. Thats all I need. Hikes would be so much more fun with proper shoes. ~ flower

The New Me!
 

Okay everybody, listen up. This is the woman formerly known as Goddess---henceforth I'll be known to you as Eydie. I have to admit I've always felt a little sheepish about that username, maybe just a teeny bit grandiose! ;)

I hope everybody gets this--don't want you to think I've abandoned you or anything. I'm still here, just with a humbler title! :^:

Flower ~ I understand completely, I have had similar problems. I think you guys are aware that my kids have different fathers.. well if you weren't they do... but I had an agreement with Skye's grandparents that there could be no difference shown to my kids(which wasn't respected)... if they did for one they had to do for both (yeah right) Well, they bought her clothes, they bought her toys, they bought her furniture and it was not allowed to come home with her(which she didn't understand). They would purchase her stuff from one place (ie name brands and such) and puchase my son stuff from the dime store or garage sales (I don't have a problem with either but if you buy one thing for one it has be fair for both)...One of the biggest fights we had was they wanted Skye to go to private school and they were going to pay for it and I said that I wasn't sending one kid to private school and the other to public and I couldn't afford to pay for Devon to go to private school (they said that wasn't their problem) I finally stopped my son from going over there because he was ignored the entire time they were together... they talked about how smart she was and pretty she was and he wasn't even acknowledge (doesn't fly) This October it has been 2 years since they have even called to check on her(do to me calling them on telling my six yr old to lie to me), they were left with a bedroom full of stuff (that they wouldn't even allow their son's girlfriends child to play with) and clothes that wouldn't ever be used.. because of their attitudes.

Kevin's family hasn't ever showed any difference between the grandchildren... they are both loved, discplined and bought for the same way. I absolutely can't stand people that think they are better than others and think that they can treat people different because of it. Kevin's family is just an old fashioned hard working family, who deserves all the respect in the world.. Skye's grandparents didn't have anything but thought that they were better than my family and that they had more authority over Skye than myself, Kevin, Kevin's Family or my family..... these people (oh Amy SHUT UP).... Flower my point is there are people like this every where and they are really not worth the effort it took to write this. You take care of your kids, they are fed, clothed and cared for... those people just think they are better than you and they aren't proving anything by their actions!

Ruthie ~ you alright?????

Wildfire ~ How you doing?

Edyie ~ Nice to meet you :)~

Got to go to wal-mart! Hugs to you all.

Amy

Flower, all I can say is you can't pick your family. Unfortunately, the men we pick also come with families. I give you credit for not saying anything...don't think I'd be able to hold my tongue against such blatant rudeness.

RUUUUUTHHIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE! What's up? Where are you hiding? Are you okay? Oh god....does anyone know if she's in the neighborhood where the plane crashed? Ruthie, even if you don't feel like posting diet stuff, let us know if you are okay?

Eydie, get your drift completely. I've always liked your name...it's different.

Amyjo, whadcha buy at WallyMart?

Hubby and I saw a Financial Advisor this week. On paper, we should have much more money than we seem to have. So we're doing the exercise where you write down every red cent you spend for a month. I'm much more conscious of what I'm buying and whether I need or just want it. Even the 90 cents I spend on a diet coke every day at lunch....that's 4.50 a week....18 dollars a month...216.00 a year, give or take a few days. We buy lunch sometimes three times a week, on average 15.00 each time....that's 45.00 week, 180.00 month, 2160.00 a year....well, you get the picture. We have the luxury of being able to pretty much spend as we please for day-to-day stuff after we pay the monthly bills, but we're really wasting a lot of money on things we shouldn't be.

Summer, where are you?

Sheila, you still lurking? How's it going with that house you were hunting for?

Does anyone know how to get in touch with Ruthie if she doesn't post??

I'm here! Sorry, I didn't mean to worry anyone -- but thanks for caring! I just haven't felt much like what I feel has been a continuously failing effort on my part -- I keep posting, and talking, and dieting, and not dieting, and so forth. I am starting the Opti Fast program the first week in January. I hadn't heard much from anyone here about what they think about it, so I didn't know if I came off as crazy for thinking about it or something. So I was just laying low. I'll try to post more later.

Hi Ruthie! Good to see you back. I'm glad you're starting Optifast the first of January. My only concern was it might be a bit of a downer for you to start during the Christmas season, you know? I mean, if you were prone to feelings of deprivation they'd be intensified during the national season of eating! Pyschologically, January's a better time to start, I think.
Do you have to do anything to prepare for the beginning of your Optifasting?

Eydie [formerly Goddess!] :)

Flower--that's pretty weird about your ex-MIL. I don't know her age but it seems that older [senior age] women are overly concerned about what others think and have a tendency to overcompensate. [I hope that didn't sound like some big sweeping generalization.] I can totally see how you'd be offended.

My workplace attracts a lot of wealthy types and I constantly have to shake off feelings of inadequacy--not that anyone has ever done anything to make me feel that way. I think that I'm a little prejudiced against people that I perceive as rich, but I'm working on it!

Wildfire, it's startling when you add up those little daily "extravagances", isn't it? The thing that worries me is my husband and I are 40-ish now and we have nothing saved for old age. Makes me sick if I think about it too much!

Hello. I got to go get dressed. A new outdoor swap meet is opening this morning. Shop and walk. What could be better than that?

Ex mom in law. Sometimes I like her, sometimes well, it makes me wish I realized you marry the family too. They just don't get it. They were a thousand times worse when Terry was alive. Even Terry couldn't stand them!

Ruthie-I have no opions on the liquid diets. I can't have artifical sweetners. My body doesn't digest them. I get hives, and the runs and sick as h***. So I never considered a liquid diet for myself. I hope it works for ya. I missed you around here.
~flower

Ruthie, I'm so glad to see that you've posted! I thought you were taking a break but it occurred to me last night that we hadn't heard from you since the plane crashed and I didn't know exactly where you live. Glad you're okay.

I am posting and dieting, posting and not dieting, not dieting and posting, dieting and not posting....it changes from day to day. Even when I'm not consciously dieting, I do realize what I'm eating and whether or not it's OP. I think checking in here keeps me from losing it completely even when I just don't have the energy to focus on weight loss. If nothing else, it prevents me from gaining. Every single day I start over, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. So don't feel that you can't post if you aren't OP. I'd like to think that our little group has become much more than just a weight-loss support group.

As far as the Opti-Fast, I don''t know much about it. If it's something you want to try and you know that it's safe and your doctor is monitoring you, I say do it! Like I mentioned, I was considering SlimeFest just to jump start my program again, but now that we're counting every penny that's out. That stuff is expensive. With Opti-Fast do you get to have one meal a day, or is it shakes all day? I wouldn't be able to last very long without any food at all, but I know you have more willpower than I do. I think January is a good time to start if you're going to do it, too. Fresh start and all after the holidays. Hey, if I thought you were crazy and about to do something you shouldn't, I'd tell you!!! :)

Eydie, it's amazing when you look at where your money really goes. We haven't started saving for retirement either, and we need to. We have a few goals in mind, which is why we are doing this exercise. It's never too late to start, though. You should look into Retirement Savings Plans.

Flower, I wish we had some of those outdoor swap meets here. Sounds like fun.

Okay, I have to make a plan for the week so I can grocery shop. We're trying to cut our grocery bill, too, so I may be going to the discount grocery shop for canned/dry goods (I just refuse to buy fresh food in a store that doesn't look clean), then to our regular grocery store for meat and produce, then to CostCo for a few bulk items. Luckily they are all close by so I won't spend extra gas to get to them all.

Have a great day!

Flower, I miss reading your diary. I haven't noticed any new entries in the last few days--and I miss you on the food journal thread too. I'm all alone---wahhh! Seriously though, admit it, you felt better and more positive when you were getting all those fruits and vegetables. So consider me your drill seargent [yeah, like I could pull that off!] with a heart of gold--let's get back on the program, girlie!

Anybody have plans for Thanksgiving? I'm having my mother-in-law and her sister [both elderly] over and I can't wait to see how my vegetarian feast goes over!

By the way, let me just casually mention here that I've made it 30 days now with being totally content with my eating and exercising. I've found something I can live with, something do-able and I feel great!


:)

Okay, okay. I will get my act together. I had ment to post in my journal but we were going and going yesterday and then Griffin wouldn't let me on the computer last night.

I walked 3 hours yesterday. Yeah me! I will walk again in a few hours. My mom bought me a beaded mobile. I am making one just like it to give to my mom. We both fell in love with it. 15$. I went and bought the steel wire at the hardware store for 5 and I have beads. Just gotta find time. :) I also got some wonderful sweet and hot beef jerky. Expensive but yummy!!!!

Well, I got up last night at 1:30 and watched the meteror showers. I didn't feel like going far away and really seeing them. A winter robe, an afgan and my front yard were enough for me. I saw at least 1 a minute for a good 45 minutes. Then I was getting a neck cramp! Off I go to update my journal. :) flower

Eydie- I want you to know that I walked and ate my veggies today! Still had too much sugar, but it is a h*** of an improvement over yesterday!

Flower, 3 hours! I can't remember the last time I walked that long. I'm proud of you, girl! Don't worry about the deviating from the food plan; I've been there, we all have--many, many times! ;)

Hello everyone! A quick peek before I pop off to bed. My course has an online chat once a week, and this is too late for me!

I am craving comfort food... I'm dreaming of rice pudding.

I'll stop by in the morning...


Lamorgan.

PS... we are all goddesses! :)

Hi! Just want to let everybody know that I'm starting a new food journal thread if anyone wants to post. :)

Hello everyone. I peaked at the weather forcast and BRRRR... 2 days ago, it was in the mid 80's. By Sunday we will only be in the low 60's. Lows will be in the 40's. I know, I shouldn't complain. I have to go out Wednesday after work and go pick dried tumble weed for kindling in my fireplace. I do not turn my heat on till at least Dec. Most of the time it is Jan. That is why I have 2 cords of fire wood and several down comforters! After paying 5 electric bills of 225+ I am not rushing to pay an outragous gas bill!!! LV unemployment is 6.7%. I am thankful Chris and I both have jobs. It is Thanksgiving week and I am beeing thankful for my haves, not my have nots!!!

Work was wierd yesterday. My boss's step dad died on Sunday night. I knew it was gonna happen that weekend. I knew what day my husband was gonna die and my grandma. But I know to keep these things to myself. (Only people close to me...I wouldn't want to know that about strangers). Anyways, boss took the day off. I wrapped up the students flowers nice and pretty in purple celophane and tied with a ribbon. They had a choice of 4 arrangemtnts to do at home and bring in a photo of the completed work to get their grade. Chris had to work, or I was gonna be brave and offer to teach class that night. Centerpieces I am comfortable with. It was way lonely working with no one to talk to. The building is all concrete, so no radio waves come through. Silence is deafening!!!!!

This week, I have my TOM. I was so b****y yesterday. The day before too. My children bug me so, when I am just starting. Its gotta be the hormones! ~flower

Hey all!

I am out of school for 5 days !!! Yipppeeee- I have a bunch of stuff to do but I don't have to "go" to school... I have not been eating so good this past week... heck The past two days I haven't eaten a total of 500 calories... back sliding... some people would say oh that great but I just can't diet like that. I am up 3 pounds but it is almost TOM so that is the reason for that. I was really hoping to reach goal by the end of the year but at this rate down two pounds and up three it doesn't look like I am going to get there.

Well to all of you who celebrate Thanks Giving Hope it is a happy one..... just in case I don't make it back this week.

Hugs to you all,
Amy
176/144/130

I have a question for those who have lost lots of weight already. Do your periods get lighter when you lose weight? In other words do fat people have heavier periods? :) Isn't that so politically correct?

I have one more day at work. Then I get 4 days off. I am more than ready. I have 3 weeks left till Winter holiday. I am so ready!!

Well, my hair is still wet so I should go dry it before it is time to go brave the North Wind today. :) I am such a baby today! ~flower I will check back in tonight.

Flower ~ Honestly when I started losing weight my periods got so much better, they were lighter didn't last as long, before... they were real heavy with lots of cramps... Well that lasted for about 4 months and I am back to same ole same ole... painful, last for days and heavy as heck... so you explain that one?


Amy

Oooh, goody! I love talking about periods! Girl Talk! I can say that I have easier periods since I've lost weight. I think that it's due more to consistent exercise than weight loss though. I hardly ever have cramps--if I do it's for a few minutes [really!] and then it's over. Yoga helps too--all that stretching has to massage your internal organs, I guess.
I'm 38 now and my periods aren't as regular as they used to be, just off by a few days though.
I've eaten really well for over a month and have stopped short of being full and I've lost that 'fat' feeling. As a matter of fact, this month I didn't have the period bloat at all! And my husband told me that he didn't notice any premenstrual tension this month! So what I'm doing is working for me---all I can say is 'so far, so good'!
This may sound crazy but I've always loved having my period and when I'm menopausal I'm sure I'l miss "Aunt Flow"! Maybe because I don't mind it I've never had any real problems with it.

Great to see you back on the food journal, Flower--you too LaMorgan!:)

In April after doing WW for one month, I noticed no pms, no bloating and my cycle went from 25 days to 28. I also had begun 1 hour walks per day, but I'm suspecting it's a blend of water and excersise that changes the menses.

It's been over 6 months, and I'm still on a 28 day cycle, and although I do feel tense shortly before it's due, not out of control.

My legs and hips ache though, for the first few hours after I get my period. I'm 39, and my periods last around 4 days. My uterus is very tipped, and I think that it has to contract a lot to empty out...

After each birth my cycle changed slightly too. Probably tipped more each time...

Today I'm ovulating, and really hungry.

Lam ~ going for a wee nap.... :)

Hi girls.

Nothing new or startling to report, just the same thing, day after day. Sleep, work, sleep, work...yada, yada.

We had another ballroom dance class tonight. I was really dreading going because I was so tired, but once we got there it was fun.

Just waiting for some fish to bake for dinner.

What an exciting life, huh? :rolleyes:

Hello. It's thanksgiving here but it doesn't feel like it. I have a bird in the oven but since I am not going anywhere or having anyone come here, it is so ordinary.

There is something wrong with me. I get the burps if I eat dairy, with or without taking a lactaid enzyme. I get the burps from carbonation. We are taking about major stomach pain. Ranks right up there w/ childbirth and kidney stones or an infected tooth. I had the same gas last night for 8 hours. But this time, no dairy or carbonation. I have to figure out what else causes the extreme gas problems. burping not farting. I went online when I was screaming and crying in pain last night and I read something about simple carbs. So I am doing an investigation. I did consume way too much white bread yesterday thru out the day. I will give bread up forever if I need to to keep that pain away. I took Gas-x 7 times. 4 in 24 hours is max. I wanted to die. I knew it would go away eventually so I didn't go to the ER. I have no insurance so I was being brave. I must figure this out. I haven't eat a drop of food today. I am scared to. ~flower

Dont mean to butt in.......
 

I was "visiting" and noticed your pain...have you ever had gall bladder problems or gallstones? What you describe may be just that.....I too had such pain (many years ago).....and was eventually diagnosed with gallstones (after they initially thought I had an ulcer and subjected me to nasty liquids and tests).

I remember being afraid to eat anything for fear of an "attack" and death was actually preferred!

I now have my gallbladder out, and no problems since then....

Diagnosis is simple...just an ultrasound of the gall bladder.

Goodluck and I hope it's not anything serious!

Froufy:)

Another butting in.......
 

Well, here was I lurking around on your thread, :o , and I thought I would butt in to the periods thing.....hope you dont mind.....
I have found that my periods have got strange as I have got older, and starting when I was at my heaviest. I am 36 now (I think....or am I 37??? something like that) and I am finding that when i use tampons it really hurts! It never used to! This is very annoying for me! I spoke to the woman who did my last cervical smear and she said it was because I was overweight, but I am not sure that I really buy this. She then told me to eat less cakes and sweets, which was.....er....patronizing??/!!!! Oh well, she was doing her best. :lol: and she was not so far off....she just should have said pasta and cheese really......:lol: :lol:

Anyway, I have been lurking around here for a while, as I am a bit of a less than wholly conventional one I suppose. Sufi lesbian psychotherapist great cook and sometime painter. Do I count in my diversity??!! I usually post on another thread in the WW section, and I love and adore my ladies there, who are with me through fat and thin (maybe we have not got to that yet....), and are completely 100% gold, jewells, and all the autumn colours ever. But I thought I would play away for tonight.......:lol:

Love to you all
Lilac

Flower, is there any kind of free medical clinic near you? Or even a hotline you can call where you can talk to a nurse? We have one here, so I was wondering if you might. I think you really should see your doctor. Do you have a lot of heartburn or reflux? Major stomach pain needs to be looked at. You have to eat something, even if it's just broth....don't get dehydrated.

Here's a few links for you to check out, see if maybe you can get some idea of what's bothering you.

http://my.webmd.com/content/article/1680.50909 on gallbladder


http://my.webmd.com/content/article/1680.51289 on GERD

http://my.webmd.com/content/asset/adam_symptoms_burping

http://my.webmd.com/content/asset/adam_disease_ulcer

Let us know how you're feeling this evening, okay?

Froufy, visitors are always welcomed, and if you'd like to stay a while that's great too!

Lilacglitter, glad you came out of lurkdom to say hello. Yep, you qualify! Come play with us here anytime.

I went to work today, only to leave around 11am. I have strange pain that is making it difficult to walk....can't figure it out...doesn't hurt to touch, it's not IBS-related, not a "female" thing (nope, definitely not pregnant), not a bladder infection, no fever, all "plumbing" working fine....it just hurts...I suppose I was brushing my teeth too vigorously this morning and pulled something? :D I was up and about for a couple of hours before it started. Just plain weird. I'd blame dancing but if I'd pulled something last night I think I would have felt it before 7am. If it's no better tomorrow I'll have to call the doc.

And man, there is crap on TV during the day.