First, Hillary Clinton TRIED to fix the health care problem when Bill was in office. Electing the right person does not guarantee the congress will care.

Also, and on a different subject, I don't think every state requires automobile insurance. Not sure but don't think Alabama does. Also, we don't have a sliding fee health plan available here. My friend who moved from California paid $300+ a quarter for health insurance for her and hubby there. Moved here and it was more than that PER MONTH. Why is every state different? Insurance is a crime anyway. Home owners insurance is Florida is way too high because of all the rich idiots who build on the sand. We, who live on dirt inland, have high insurance rates to subsidize them. I could go on.

I had to sit at the dinner table with a bunch of inlaws this afternoon and listen while they called Al Gore a hypocrite for having a huge energy bill at his residence, for which he pays carbon credits, or whatever it's called. I feel so alone in the world sometimes. Is it hypocritical to be willing to do what you can to be responsible, or perhaps he should stop trying and live like 98% of the American people; maybe that would satisfy them.

I am angry

Can you tell?

Not about Al Gore, but I became angry today, also. I am borderlining out of depression and into anger about .. not being fired but ... the reason they gave for firing me. That I Don't GET ALONG WITH YOUNG CHILDREN!! I would love to go get into their faces right now and explore this. But I don't even know whose face to get into.

This woman who was supposed to be MY mentor and who almost never came into the room heard me tell a child to get away from me. This was because she was knocking over others and trying to sit on my feet and hold my book and touch my leg and NOT show any interest in the learning activity at all. The director, herself, in my presence called a child "a little demon" and grabbed her by the arm. Another woman hit children on the butt and head with her hand and on the butt with a pointer. Another shoved one away and told him to go play ... he stumbled with the shove. I know that the children I had became better prepared for kindergarten and while there are better ways to express oneself than I did on that occasion, it is minor compared to calling someone a DEMON. I am suddenly insensed that they would have the nerve to suggest that I did anything wrong with those children in comparison to them.

And I really don't feel the need for George Bush to be in the same state as I am either. I put up with George Sr., but GW needs to leave. PootyPootPoot can hang around if he wants, just to soak up the New England atmosphere.

I know there are picketers but do they agree with you? Bush out; Putin in?

Originally Posted by Cowpernia:
I know that the children I had became better prepared for kindergarten and while there are better ways to express oneself than I did on that occasion, it is minor compared to calling someone a DEMON.

You have nothing to lose by confronting this, do you? I honestly think you should write them a letter, protesting this judgment of your skills based on such flimsy evidence and defending yourself, and maybe documenting as well as you're able the general treatment of the children by all parties involved! Of course, you'll probably have to scrap your first 5 or 6 drafts of such a letter (at least I would! :mad: ), but I really don't think you should just let that judgment stand!!

Yes, I may do that. and thanks for reminding me to go several drafts.

DS brought home an extra suitcase that is containing gifts lcp bought him. He went right to sleep. I am SOOO wanting to see what's in it and IF THERE'S SOMETHING FOR ME EMEMEMEMEM. I actually unzipped it a little but couldn't continue.

Hello! Checking in! I did a workout! Woo!

I'm not the biggest fan of Al Gore either... if I had his kind of money, I'd live like Ed Begley Junior. I think everyone should try to reduce their footprints, especially those who have the means to. (For example, I hope to live within biking distance of my next job so we don't have to have two cars.)

Dennis Kucinich has plans for improving health care, but someone like him will never get elected.

I've lived under socialized health care (in the military) and I can't say it's the dream come true that Michael Moore is trying to sell it as, but it has its good sides. People are kidding themselves, though, if they think anything will truly make health care equitable as long as there is such a huge gap between the haves and the have-lesses in the US. The rich will always get to the front of the line.

Peachie, that's terrible that they would say that about you! I hope you can challenge it.

kiwi--that does sound terribly convoluted---i mean,i am not sure how it all got settled up here but we all just have a medicare card and show it wherever we go--to the dr's office, the hospital or emergency room and most people have blue cross or some sort of insurance for their prescriptions.We are never billed for anything and when they start talking about a 'user fee' for the outpatient everyone throws a fit and they cancel it.--and yes,peachie---sometimes they send people to the states if the lines are too long---i know they have sent people to maine for some tests if we are too booked----no place is perfect i am sure,but it is nice to not have to think about whether you can afford to get sick,let alone afford the test to see if you ARE sick.There are enough models out there for the US to try,that is for sure.
Peachers!!!! i have heard countless teachers say exactly what you said--i am sure i said it as a teacher and i know one of my friends who is a great teacher has said it---when you are around these kids all the time,it's like talking to your own kids----you most definitely should object in a formal way=====they should not be allowed to ruin your reputation like that and it is really sad that they cannot appreciate the progress you made with these children-===that is pathetic on their part. congrats cherry on the workout---now what exactly is that??? i am sure i have heard of such things but please elaborate.[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[happy CANADA day sugarcherrypie!!}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} my brother was partying on PARLIAMENT HILL!!!

Originally Posted by Cowpernia:
I am SOOO wanting to see what's in it and IF THERE'S SOMETHING FOR ME EMEMEMEMEM. I actually unzipped it a little but couldn't continue.

Isn't it hard being a nonbuttinsky sort of mom? DD's cousin sent home a box for DD that she said was a graduation present (just a year late ;) ) and it's not wrapped. It's sitting on the couch waiting for DD to get home from work. Pretty soon I'll be drumming my fingers, staring at it, telling Jet to "go get it" ("the dog knocked it over") :lol:

I'll be good. Glad your ds is home finally. Hope he had a happy time in spite of all the trials and tribs.

Oh, my sailing friends' little dog broke her leg again :( -- she had been recovering from an operation on the leg to remove pins that had been inserted when she broke her leg before and then the pins had shifted. She had gotten out of the cast for that and was healing pretty well, and apparently jumped when she shouldn't have and broke it again. Awful for a pet to be so fragile. She's a Chinese Crested with hair, so cute and fun, but she's been in a cast like 4 times I think. I added a couple of pictures of her to my facebook.

DH might go on a 10 day canoe trip on the Allagash River while DD and I are at the :beach: in NC. Hard to imagine...

Kiwi

yes,i forgot to congratulate peach on having her boy home!!! it is lovely to see them but they usually make a big mess {HAHAAAAAAAAAAAA} i am presently directing stepdd16 to the laundry room with her weekend frocks.She and dd21 and stepdd21 were camping outside of Halifax.The dd21s live in nova scotia,but the visiting stepdd drove down to party with them. Today is a gorgeous day and i am hoping to do some gardening. slow but sure around here,finally. i have been wanting to clean up my gardens for two years!!----dd21 i going to europe to meet up with her dad and the other dd this week---she was able to get the time off from work---i take it your dd,kiwi was able to secure a holiday as well??

Happy Day after Canada Day youse Canuks!

Cowie..I agree with the herd.. you must appeal what has been said about you.. don't stand for it!

We would be bankrupt by DH's hospital bills if not for insurance..-- so far they tallied close to 200,000. :yikes: I always admired the skandanavian systems myself.

Healthcare and Oil 2 of my :soap: items... and lets just say the next president cant be any worse. Its gonna take alot of time to undo all the damage done by Bush and Cheney.

The little crested puppy is adorable.. so sad she is so fragile!

Bagz --my ears are pierced and l like silver... I will wear my cows proudly. :D


must go thaw chicken

sugar,we need to clear something up---the earwires are silver----as is the cow----can you use surgical steel earwires cause i can put yours on those ones-----not sure about this nickel thing--would that be in surgical steel?????i think----AND ADD ME AS A FRIEND OR I WILL KEEP POKING YOU!!!

Originally Posted by Bagzz:
--dd21 i going to europe to meet up with her dad and the other dd this week---she was able to get the time off from work---i take it your dd,kiwi was able to secure a holiday as well??

How lucky that both girls will get to enjoy that vacation together with their dad! Are you green with jealousy? Yes, dd got a week off and we are on go for the beach. I will have to psych myself up for it; lately I've been feeling more like skipping the whole thing, but that's no way to be, huh?

Hi Cherry! You go! on the workouts. Someone ought to be doing them.

DH has been cleaning up. It's really scary. Makes me uneasy about what he might be throwing away -- although I think he learned his lesson years ago when he threw away my dog's bed and I never forgave him. Mostly all this cleaning (dd has been doing it too; good lord I may even have to cave in and do some) results in a lot of recycling dumped in the garage, which is all mine to sort. yippee...

kiwi

Hiya.
I hope I am over my post-wedding/creeping decripitude depression and will be back more regularly. I am re-subscribing to the thread so I won't have so much to catch up on.

I've had a week in S. California and nearly a week where DD was in town (she SURPRISED me by getting in cahoots with DH. Blew me away when she walked into the restaurant where he and I were having dinner. They'd NEVER seen me speechless!)

Anyway, life is looking better, so I'm back. (I have this not so helpful belief that when I'm sad/cranky/etc. I should go crawl into a hole. I imagine I'd find I have company there if I ever piped up.)

Two things that I'll share (since 3FC IS, allegedly about weightloss) is the Calorie King website that can tell you the calories in just about anything; and how much I like Tropicana Sugar Free Lemonade. MORE than soda.

So I've started writing down everything I eat and calculating calories. And subtracting a conservative calculated number of calories for my resumed Curves workouts. And I give myself tons o' stickers in my week at a glance calendar. I hope I can develop the perseverence (and forgiveness for lapses) this time.

If somebody can give me a clue about Facebook, I'll try to join the club there. But, for what it's worth, there's always my blog.

Good to see you back. That is awesome about DD's surprise visit! Glad you're feeling positive and motivated.

I was scanning through someone's posts that had caught my eye and started reading a thread about, ohmygod, weight loss! Imagine finding that here. Well, not exactly here per se, but on 3fc. They were discussing whether to weigh once a day or once a week. It seemed to motivate some people to weigh themselves once a day -- whether they gained or lost, which absolutely floored me! If they lost, they were optimistic and able to stay on plan, and if they gained, they were motivated to do better. Good lord, what kind of people are those? Oh, I know, people who like to clean their houses, right? Sometime in the past day or so, I was watching tv (or was it here? I can't remember offhand) and heard someone say that there are some people who just go about getting things done and changing themselves when they need to and succeeding at things they attempt and so on. And then there are the rest of us, who struggle with practically everything. I sooo identified with this.

I have been sort of productive today -- I had my car! so I sorted lots of recycling and loaded it and the dog into the car and took it to the dump, and then took the dog for a walk. Well, not at the dump, at the "BaitHole Trail", the nearby cross-country ski trail. 15 minutes into the walk it started to pour. Oh well, I was only going to walk for about 30 minutes anyway. It wasn't bad, but I'm a little damp and I smell like a wet dog.

Kiwi

Hey Bagzie - stop pokin' me! I added you as a friend. At least I think I did.

Ja wohl, surgical steel would be just fine. Silver sends little electrical impulses through my skin for some reason. Weird huh?

Peachy, - that is just SO outrageous. I don't think what you said to that child is ANY grounds for you to be let go. Those people are nuts and there's a conspiracy going on. I bet you were TOO good and they all started fearing for their jobs. In my humble opinion: 1) Kids NEED discipline, especially kids who are probably not getting any at home. And I think they love you ever more for telling them what's right and wrong and how to behave in public because many have NO idea. 2) it's OK to let kids see that you are a human being with real human emotions. I doubt that your choice of words hurt that child in any way.

I teach this class at the library on Tuesdays. Used to be 8 10 yr old kids but has now dwindled down to four. When it was six there were these two boys who would NOT stop talking, laughing, poking, pushing, shoving and just generally disrupting the rest of the class. I had no choice but to yell really loud to get them to stop for a even a couple of seconds. When I mentioned to them that there were other people in the universe and that if they weren't interested in participating they could leave right away they just looked at me all wide-eyed like no one had ever talked that way to them before.

Painty darlin' - this is THE place for the sad and cranky. Stick around. :p

Must go, I can smell my English muffin burning. :o

English muffin :drool: That's what I want!

I know exactly what you mean about speaking to some kids and getting that wide-eyed look like they've never been corrected before. It's rather astonishing to learn that there are parents who either can't or won't say No to their kids.

I went out a bit earlier to throw a ball for Jet, as I do every day. I am a terrible ball thrower, even with a tennis ball throwing device. I can't throw normally anyway because it tears up my elbow, but honestly that poor dog has had to turn into a scent hound to find the ball. We have a nice sized yard, but the ball pretty much always ends up in the woods or the underbrush where I didn't intend it to go. Today my first throw was straight into the edge of the woods where there were overgrown rhubarb-like plants and burr bushes. Other areas of underbrush Jet leaps right into and comes out with the ball; it's quite amazing. But she had sense enough not to plunge right into that mess. So I had to go help her find it (I had lost another ball in there just the other day, so I'm getting low on tennis balls!). We tromped through together, I stomped plants down and she finally came up with it. It's really cool how good she's gotten at this.

However she's got burrs all over her...

Kiwi

I have emailed those of you who I thought would want it, a copy of a draft of my letter about the firing. Shots asked what my purpose was in writing it. I think I just want to get their faces and yell at them that what they said about ME was not true. Is that good enough? I don't expect to be hired back and I would not want to work under that person ever ever ever again.

Jet sounds kind of nice for a big dog. Does she jump on people and push them over?

I have a request. I'm in this contest that involves sending postcards to other people and if anyone feels they could, I'd appreciate some postcards from your area. Mostly, military themes or odd-shaped ones but any would be nice. They're for me to write on and send. In exchange, I will have cow earrings and/or socks delivered to you.

Originally Posted by Cowpernia:
Jet sounds kind of nice for a big dog. Does she jump on people and push them over?

She jumps on people, although she hasn't knocked anyone but me over yet, I do worry about that. We have been working on the jumping since she arrived. Seems I should try something different.

She has an interesting "personality" for lack of a better word. She really wanted to chew those burrs out by herself; she insisted on going outside to work on them after leaving a wet mess of fur and plant material in the middle of the kitchen floor. When I brought her back in, she still had plenty of burrs on her, so I made her lie down and I tried to brush and comb them out. She kept pushing the brush away and working on them herself, so we finally came to an agreement that I could work on one part of her while she worked on another part. She bares her teeth at me if I pull too hard. It's just loads of fun...

I did some cleaning in the living room. You can't really tell.

Kiwi

My kitty once removed a burr from his own self and it got stuck in his tongue. I kept seeing him flicking his tongue around and took him to the vet who put him under and took it out. She said she'd seen animals that starved because of that.

You can clean my living room,too. With this one, I think you could tell.

Hooray for the Red White and Blue!

Cats and Dogs doin burrectomies! Amazing pet tricks! My babies are resting after their morning walk...
Cowie- if thats your reasoning, then I would definitely cc a copy to the BIG HEAD OF THE program. :s: Let em pee their pants... I'll look for post cards cowpeach.. I have some but they are just wacky ones.. no military or oddly shaped ones.

welcome back painty!

DH is feelin under the weather this week... a bit fluey... so we'll scrap plans to see the fireworks... thats okay I got enough to keep me busy...

Happy Fourth of July! We are off to various bbqs and doings and I suppose some fireworks. Leaving the home and pets in the hands of the daughter. :chin:

Ta
Kiwi

do people still make Jello poke cakes???
 

:flow1::flow1:HAPPY 4th DARLINGS! :flow1::flow1:

Tell me what y'all are eating today! :cookie::snail::hun::burger::jeno:

ds grilled steaks and aluminum squares filled with veggies. I microwaved taters. Quite filling and yummy.

happy independence day cowadingdongs

Happy 4th!
:bomb:I'm not sure we are as free as we used to be, but we have more opportunity than most.:encore:

Originally Posted by Kiwonk:
Good to see you back. That is awesome about DD's surprise visit! Glad you're feeling positive and motivated.
Kiwi

Thanks so much. It IS good to find some positivity and motivation. I'm still current (after one WHOLE week....) on writing calories and what I've eaten. I had one slip, eating an entire bag of "veggie chips" but that has to be better than a whole package of cookies.

As far as weighing, I weigh on Mondays. Oh, I'm tempted other times. But just once a week, so I don't get obsessive. I'm sure some people can do it more frequently, but when I do I get crazy/crazier.:dizzy:

DH and I went out for a ride this afternoon (it has rained the last 9 days. Since it rained today we have tied the all-time record for rainy days in Dallas.) And we were walking around a little shopping area. I was SO disappointed that my knee is hurting again. The gym is closed today, I didn't go yesterday, but thought that walking would loosen me up. :( And then when I let DH know I had to wait for a refil on a joint-anti-inflammatory he kind of scolded me. I feel pouty. I may need to take a nap, even though it is almost dinner time. I don't think there will be fireworks in the vicinity, except for on TV.

Originally Posted by SugP:
Painty darlin' - this is THE place for the sad and cranky. Stick around. :p:o

Well, there you go.
I suppose I should remember that I'm wearing capris I haven't gotten into for two years.

Painty ! THAT IS AN AWESOME VICTORY!!! :yay: for fitting into clothes from 2 years ago!!!!! FABOOOOO Dahlink!

I am no Miss Crankypants... I am all sunshine and rainbows :s:

Have a Brady Kinda day........ :dizzy:

Did Everyone Enjoy The Glorious Fourth???

Oh, Awe-Inspiring-Bag-Dream-Constellation-of-Doritos, I SO enjoyed the fourth. At our store, we sell fireworks, so I strapped myself (actually used Scotch brand magic tape) to a rocket, lit it with one of those long lighters from the bar-b-q section, and flew up high into the sky. I wore my square dance outfit so the full skirt held me up as I floated back to earth and the crinolines gave my little butt something soft to land on. Then, having decided to start exercising in a serious way, I ate a dozen hotdogs.

oh!!! did you win the hot dog eating contest i heard about??? i was so jealous!!!i love that your teeny tiny endcap had such a pillowy landing!!! we have some people here who stroll through the market with apparent pillows billowing out of their pantaloons......



one of my friends that i walk with started WW meetings on wednesday night--i am torn between being jealous of her pending weight loss and my habit of making fresh biscuits each evening around nine pm and slicing up the freshest of strawberries---grown in real straw,not sand----and whipping the most creamiest of creams and dishing myself up a double order. Summer is so fleeting--it is hard to decide whether to try to look half decent or to eat decadently. someone pick for me.

LOL ~~~~ Snort!!! I've seen those pillowy behinds, too.

But you are a FRAUD!! You are a tiny size EIGHT and yet you eat strawberries grown in the same straw the cow eats (is hay the same as straw?) who makes the whipped cream. Weight Watchers would NOT WANT YOU!!! You are a Letty.

Kidults can be wonderful, I believe. I can not remember this for a certainty but I know I have thought it in the past.

One kidultI know made an appointment to take his car to the shop. The appointment was for Friday morning but he slept all morning. He did wake up, remember the appointment and go back to bed. Now, at 12:30, he has taken the car in. He did not call to see if they can work on it. He did not consider that they may keep it all weekend. He asked his mom to pick him up. He said he would not call her, she should pick him up before she goes to another town in three hours. He plans to sit at the mechanic's until then. His mom said she wouldn't come unless he calls. He may be there all weekend with the car.

The same kidlet has been instructed to get a job and has applied at a place or two. However, he is bragging about his conquests on a certain gameboy game.

On the plus side, he did take the cats to the vet. He eats well. He is not bad tempered.

On the negative, he badly needs a haircut and who is going to hire him with that characteristic?

On the plus, ... Oh, I give up.

Originally Posted by SugP:
Tell me what y'all are eating today! :cookie::snail::hun::burger::jeno:

None of the above. Where are the smilies of grilled steaks, pasta salad and pencil thin asparagus?
Oo, I had some of this :broc:

Originally Posted by PainterWoman:
I suppose I should remember that I'm wearing capris I haven't gotten into for two years.

Yahoo! That is exce-o-lente! :flow2:

Originally Posted by Bagzz:
Summer is so fleeting--it is hard to decide whether to try to look half decent or to eat decadently. someone pick for me.

How could anyone tell you to stop eating such perfect foods? Here's an idea: instead of choosing between looking half decent and eating decadently, why not look decadent while eating half as much :lol:

Here's my good behavior for the past 2 days: went to bed when everybody else did (we stayed at a campground with friends in their RV) and didn't eat a thing after 11:30 PM. Of course I tossed and turned for hours and hours, but that's par for the course.

The guys went shopping in the morning (yeah, couple of girly-boys :chicken::chicken:) and us girls were going to go kayaking, but it rained all night and all morning, so we slept in and I made the most lovely omelet for breakfast -- leftover asparagus, sauteed onion, cheddar cheese. Ah. MMM Simply Looovely. It's actually a lot easier for me to moderate my eating when I'm at someone else's place -- you can't just sit there grazing out of other people's cupboards and refrigerators, y'know?

DH bought the world's best Whoopie Pies, at the Friar's Bakehouse. And we went to the movies (saw Live Free or Die Hard, which was hilarious and as full of suspense and violence as you'd expect. But hilarious. ) And I managed to wait until the ride home to eat my whoopie pie. Lovely.

Today we are having trout again. For lunch, I hear. Perhaps I won't have to cook it either...

Kiwi

Oh oh oh. I must tell you what ds and I have for dinner. He made me put bullets in the letter I was working on so I will use them here.

BULLET: turkey breast that you buy and it's cold and cooked and you slice off a chunk

BULLET: garlic bread made with this spread (they spelled it spred) found in the sour cream section. Bread was from the store bakery.

BULLET: artichokes steamed in the microwave (with water, lemon juice and olive oil)

BULLET: sauteed garlic, onion, potato and brussel sprouts.

WE IS HEALTHY!!!

We had a knife demonstration at our house yesterday. The "neighbor"'s kid is selling Cutco (neighbor in paren. because our closest neighbor is 2 miles away) and I got a new really expensive knife! (Well, one of the less expensive knives they sell, but still $$) Now I can cut anything.

My kitchen stinks. Maybe I can cut the smell.

Where is everybody, out having fun? You gotta lotta nerve.

Kiwi

So anyway, why do I keep signing my posts even though I have my name in my sig? Discuss.

perhaps you could sign them with an alias. What name were you using at the ashram in the 60s?

well i worked all day---hilarious NEW YORKERS were on the cruise ship-==some of them were actually arguing with each other loudly in my shop!!!! one guy was even swearing under his breath at his loud mouthed mother---i met a lady who worked at the nursery school that james taylor's twins go to--her best friend is the nanny for them and tells her of all the adventures they go on!!!i was all ears!---now i am tired but i have to go to a barbeque at my gay guy friend's house---it is always beautiful there,with good music and classy food. BUT I am TIRED!!!! ds12 is ds13 tomorrow----whaaaaaaaaaa i want to put him in the stroller and put a pluggie in his mouth.and walk down to timmy's. he got braces this week and the poor thing is uncomfortable. braces suck. peachbag--your menu sounded soooooooo yummy---i applaud your fab eating habits. kiwonk---i need you to cut the stink in my house too----the greyhound is visiting and the cat pissed on the hardwood floor.GAWDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD