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Old 12-31-2005, 01:30 AM   #1  
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Default How about Sonoma with vegetarian diets?

Does Sonoma fit with vegetarian/vegan diets as well?
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Old 12-31-2005, 02:26 AM   #2  
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Mina,

It works just fine. You'll just get your protein from alternative sources such as legumes and beans, peanut butter and things like soy substitutes. If you eat eggs, as I know some vegetrians do, those work as well. Dairy does pack some protein, but the diet doesn't recommend using dairy to fulfill the protein requirement all the time. If you do occasionally use dairy as a protein source, make sure you opt for ones that are lower in saturated fats. I personally adore tofu based cheeses, which have very little saturated fat.

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Hi India,

I've been doing the Medieterranean diet for several years, which is what this diet is based upon. As you can see by my sig, I think I've found the plan for me.

The main thing to keep in mind is that this is a forever change you need to make, not a one month or three month change. If you think this is something you can keep up for pretty much the rest of you life, I'd say do look into it. The food is very yummy, but as with any weight loss strategy it takes planning and work.

I can honestly say I've never felt better.. little nagging aches and pains are all gone, my hair and skin look better and I have no cravings for junky or fast food anymore. My cholesterol dropped nearly 50 points with my "bad" chol now even lower than normal... into optimal and my "good" chol now nicely elevated. My triglycerides dropped from 149 to 54. The health benefits have been amazing for me.

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So we just buy the book and follow the guidelines? I've been trying to find something other than my original WeightWatchers plan, which is the Core plan and limits my carbs and other intakes drastically.

This sounds more do-able and more like a permanent lifestyle change (although WeightWatchers claims to be also, it doesn't feel that way to me). Should I go down to the bookstore and buy this book or order on Amazon.com?
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I do not have the book (plan to look through it as soon as I find it). I like the idea of using plate size and percentages for each meal as this will help in portion control. But I have a question about this. I understand about the % on the plate but what about how high/thick? For example, if I have turkey bacon as some of my protein portion for breakfast, do I lay each piece next to each other? This takes up more plate % and uses less food than if I chose to have a chicken breast, which is thicker yet uses less plate surface. Does this make sense?
I know in Body for Life the portions were palm size but also the thickness of a deck of cards.
How have you worked around this?
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I do not have the book (plan to look through it as soon as I find it). I like the idea of using plate size and percentages for each meal as this will help in portion control. But I have a question about this. I understand about the % on the plate but what about how high/thick? For example, if I have turkey bacon as some of my protein portion for breakfast, do I lay each piece next to each other? This takes up more plate % and uses less food than if I chose to have a chicken breast, which is thicker yet uses less plate surface. Does this make sense?
I know in Body for Life the portions were palm size but also the thickness of a deck of cards.
How have you worked around this?
Sil, good question. I am sorry I cannot give you a good answer at the moment as I am at work and left the book at home ( won't do THAT again ) Anyway, the only thing I recall about portions is some advice to not "heap" things on the plate. I would think that how much you put on your plate is what would consititute one typical serving. Maybe Suzanne will come along, with her book and give you a better answer. When I've been eating chicken, I've been using 4-5 ounce portions, turkey smoked sausage - 3- 3.5 ounce portions and fish - 5 ounce portions. On friday, I'll be having some turky bacon with scrambled egg whites and then I plan on two egg whites and 2 slices of turkey bacon.
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So we just buy the book and follow the guidelines? I've been trying to find something other than my original WeightWatchers plan, which is the Core plan and limits my carbs and other intakes drastically.

This sounds more do-able and more like a permanent lifestyle change (although WeightWatchers claims to be also, it doesn't feel that way to me). Should I go down to the bookstore and buy this book or order on Amazon.com?
Mina, well the bookstore might be faster but I think online is cheaper. All up to you where you want to get the book.
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Should I go down to the bookstore and buy this book or order on Amazon.com?
Mina, if you have a Target nearby you might want to check there. I purchased my copy last night for about $17.

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I understand about the % on the plate but what about how high/thick? For example, if I have turkey bacon as some of my protein portion for breakfast, do I lay each piece next to each other? This takes up more plate % and uses less food than if I chose to have a chicken breast, which is thicker yet uses less plate surface. Does this make sense?
2BFIT1, that same thought occurred to me! I just purchased the book last night and started reading it. There appear to be guidelines about portion sizes so that hopefully will answer the question. I have to go food shopping today, so I did my own breakfast and put food on my 7" plate in a reasonable manner, a little more than a single layer, but not towering. I figured if I could carry it to the table without anything falling off, I was good.

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Thanks Linda and Sherry. I figured that common sense would rule just wondered if it was spelled out in the book. I'm on my way to Sams Club and will check there for the book.
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i got my book at sam's club for $13-something. the cheapest i saw by far online or in store. it felt kinda funny going to sam's for only a book and not a giant flat full of water (usually shop there for work - for the construction crews).

i haven't started yet since i've just finished reading most of it. but am pretty excited. i know i have a sugar problem - hopefully this will help with that. but the thought of throwing out all the regular pasta and flour that i have at home kills me - so wasteful. and most people i know are low-carbing it. they certainly don't want it
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Geo-jess: When I went low carb, I packed up all my unopened high carb stuff in a box and donated it to the local food bank. Maybe you could do the same. Even high carb food is better than no food.

One of my few criticisms of this book is that she says you don't have to weigh and measure food. I guess she tries to get around it with the plate and bowl tricks which as you are finding out are hard to figure out. Also, on some of the lists, she spells out that a serving is a half cup of something so I think the bottom line is you really do have to at least measure some things. I'm not sure why people who write diet books or programs try to kid people into believing they don't have to weigh and measure. I guess the public in general rebels against this idea but anyone who is serious about losing weight should be prepared to do this for at least awhile until they get used to portion sizes. We in the US have gotten accustomed to such big portions we have no clue what it is we should be eating. I think she should have just been honest and said, yes, you will have to measure some of your food for awhile.
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Good idea about donating the pasta and other refined products to a food bank--much better than my idea of eating it all this weekend!

About the book and the cost: I ordered it online from Zooba for $9.95, and then I bought a copy at Sam's for $14.88. If I had realized how impatient I'd be to get it, I'd have just gone to Sam's to begin with. It was worth the extra $5 for the instant gratification.
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