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Old 04-18-2005, 02:53 AM   #1  
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Default Preparing for Hiking, Walking.. Crash course.

I am a geology student, and it's come to a point in my college schedule where I need to take field courses. I just got back from one weekend field course where we hiked with 20 lb backpacks to the bottom of a very steep and extremely muddy ravine on one of the days, and the hike out was a near verticle climb using arms to pull ourselves out of the mud-slide sides using tree branches and saplings for the most part (the ground was so muddy our shoes were getting stuck). I was genuinely scared I was going to not only hurt myself, but make a fool of myself as well. I was the last one out but I was ok. Dirty but ok.

On this same trip, we hiked up and down a ~400ft hill that was really steep, and I was breathing so heavily that I thought I was going to pass out. I stopped maybe 5 feet from the top to cough so much, that I thought I was going to fall over and die. I was so embarassed. We did a lot of other walking, hiked up about 800ft to a peak, then went up 4 flights of stairs to get to the top of a lookout tower. It was so hard. I was always last in the trail, even behind the smokers.

I've always had problems with my weight.. no matter what I eat. I can eat pizza hut 3 meals a day or 1200 calorie/day diets and it's always the same. So I figure it's my horrid lack of exercise. I only walk about 3000 steps a day on a regular day, and 4000 on a "good" day. I don't exercise, I don't deny it. My excuse is pitiful but true: I'm studying and working and have little time.

I have to go to Montana for a field mapping exercise between May 21 and June 6, a little more than 2 weeks, with every day in the field walking 5 miles on rocky and somewhat hilly terrain.

I need to get in shape, because after I got home from my weekend trip, I could barely move. My whole body ached, and it was so hard to just get out of the car or go up stairs.. my legs and arms were just so sore. Well, they ARE sore. I've only been home for 6 hours.

Please tell me what the best way would be to approach my goal of being able to hike up small to moderate non-muddy rocky hills, 5 miles of walking a day in dry heat by the time May 21 rolls around. I own a gazelle and an exercise bike but they don't give a lot of resistence and I never felt like I was accomplishing anything while I was using them.

I was considering jogging. What is a good starter routine and what's a good progression schedule? Please, any advice is helpful.
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hiya babes sounds like you got a heck of a workout for a first timer! i would suggest you hit the Gym at your college. grabs some weights and start lifting! do curls, bench presses, lunges and get some lower backs in too.

one thing i know is true, none of us whether we be sedentary all our lives or busy moms, students, women with career's there is Never anytime for exercise. thats why we have to Make the time! schedule it, prioritize it into our busy days. kind of what your doing now knowing this next Hike is coming. you have the same schedule but your making the time. because you want to do better, feel better afterwards. and i guarantee you, you will always feel better after a workout!

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Hi Niksa First of all, WOW, congratulations for even finishing that weekend. That hike must have been tough for the best of them !

You can definitely get in better shape for your next outing by May 21 it will take hard work and dedication though. I agree 100% with Sassy that we ALL have lives and we can give 1000 excuses not to exercise. The reality is that we must make the time for it. If you want it badly enough you will do it. Losing weight is a head game, IMHO...

A regular walk/jog program would be very good. Start slow as to not hurt yourself, if you do have an injury then you won't be able to continue your program or worse not even be able to go on the next fieldtrip. Maybe be a pedometer to get some more walking in, up to 10,000 steps/day would be good. Walk EVERYWHERE !!

Starting a regular workout program with weights would be a great idea too, your college must certainly have a workout facility or maybe even a pool to do laps for a good upper body workout.

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I've always had problems with my weight.. no matter what I eat. I can eat pizza hut 3 meals a day or 1200 calorie/day diets and it's always the same.
I beg to differ on this point because I used to say the same ... But when I really, really, got serious about weightloss and getting healthy, I started planning my meals more, started observing what I ate, writting, logging, my food intake, making sure I ate lean protein, unprocessed carbs, LOTS of veggies and fruits instead of sweets, eating 5-6times/day every 2.5 hours as to not be ravenous at the next meal..... I was shocked to see that I actually lost weight and had mega energy. When I ate pizza on a regular basis I had NO energy....

I hope this helps, I'm sure someone will be along shortly to give you some great advise from a different perspective...
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I haven't done this myself, but the mother of one of my friends is a long-time hiker; however, as she walks less in winter time, she always needs to get in shape again when comes spring (as she plans 3-days long walks and such for May/June), and she told me that for her, what worked best was the ellipitcal bike. She tried jogging/running, but it just didn't work: she'd still get sore and tired after the first day of her "big" walks if she had "only" jogged to prepare herself to it, and the ellipitical was preparing her better. Of course this may be different depending on the people; she also puts a good resistance on said machine.

I'll also agree with Sassy and Ilene, and add a little bit to this: don't "waste your time" with exercises that take long to do. For instance, when I started to get in shape, back in January, I had planned to do walks in order to exercise and start not too violently, but I soon realized that it was taking too long, and that I could do just as well with 1h of cardio. Weight-lifting also goes the same: you don't have to take 2 minutes of pause between each series, IF you go working different muscles during that time. Example:I work, say, on the shoulder press, then while my shoulders are still tired I go make reps on the legs press, then back... So far it hasn't made me more sore than normal, nor caused me any injury, so I've assumed that it wasn't a bad way of working out. Okay, it may not be "the" perfect way of doing, but when time is scarce and we have to "make" the time, I honstly think that we need to also give ourselves the chances to do so. It's true that you can't allow yourself to take 2 hours to do a certain type of workout everyday, if taking so long has a bad influence on your study time/grades. So might as well optimize it as best as you can, so that you don't quickly fall into a thinking mode of "it's going to make me fail my year" or something.

In any case, I hope this could help... I know how hard it can be to cramm regular exercise into a busy schedule, but yeah, there's no other choice than to make the time if you really want and need to train in preparation :/
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Thanks for the advice guys... I guess what I am asking is, how much is a good amount to start with? I've been dunked in cold water, and I don't want to do it again. I'd rather stick a toe in and work my way up. I like firm goals. Walk X steps this week, jog X this week, etc.

I don't want to join a gym (even my college gym). Period. I live 30 minutes out of town so it's too much trouble and too much money (gas alone is too much). I have to do simple things around my farm for exercise. Walking, jogging, biking, etc.

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I beg to differ on this point because I used to say the same ... But when I really, really, got serious about weightloss and getting healthy, I started planning my meals more, started observing what I ate, writting, logging, my food intake, making sure I ate lean protein, unprocessed carbs, LOTS of veggies and fruits instead of sweets, eating 5-6times/day every 2.5 hours as to not be ravenous at the next meal..... I was shocked to see that I actually lost weight and had mega energy. When I ate pizza on a regular basis I had NO energy....
I know it sounds like I'm making excuses or whatnot. I worked with my nutritionist for 8 months eating precisely what she told me to eat. 1200 calories a day. Fruit, vegetables. I was starving, miserable, and completely unmotivated, my arms and legs felt so weak, and I had a constant headache. I felt so weak I didn't even want to wake up in the mornings. I never cheated on my diets. She gave me a list of things to eat, and I ate them.

I kept a food journal with clipped out nutrition panels for absolutely everything I ate, including gum, vitamins, everything. By the end of the 8 months, I had 385 pages of food and clipped nutrition panels pasted on pages in my journal. My caloric range was 1150-1550 a day. The more I stayed on the diet, the weaker I felt.

I lost no weight - it continued to wobble between the same 5 lbs. When eating pizza, hot dogs, etc, I gained maybe 6 lbs over a few months. But at least I wasn't miserable. I'm not going to argue about the way I ate because quite simply - we're all different. In addition, my doctor believes my weight to be a result of a hormonal issue related to another health situation I have.

I am on Atkins now and I at least don't have an aching empty feeling 24 hours a day like I did on the low-calorie diet. I have a strong will, and I can completely change my diet on a dime. I recognize now that it's the exercise that's the root of my weight problems. Atkins has helped me keep off hunger all the time, and I am also not as miserable. I am content with it, and it's closer to my ethnic/genetic diet anyway.

I have a pedometer, a pretty nice one actually, and I plan to increase walking by 1000 steps a day, up to 10000 by this Saturday, then I plan to jog Sunday for at least 1000 steps in addition to 10000 walking, and next week I will increase jogging incrementally by 1000 steps per day until I'm satisfied, each time replacing 1000 walking steps with 1000 jogging. I will also add weights when my muscles aren't aching so much from my last hike. I need more leg strength though so I'm going to try to find some kind of really good leg strength training exercises.. squats maybe? I was thinking of using leg weights since muddy boots is the norm in the field, and well, that's the hardest part.

I know lots of people don't like firm numbers like that. I do. It gives me a goal to look forward to, and motivation to continue.

So thank you both for your advice. I suppose I will just do my plan of adding 1000 steps and such. I have an exercise partner who's going to the field course also, so it won't be too bad.

I'm worried about dehydration, shin splints/stress fractures (is that the same thing?) and vitamins. What is best for building muscle? I'm not worried about weight loss right now as much as being able to breathe after a 5 mile hike.

Please, any more advice would be wonderful. I really appreciate what you both have said.
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I guess what I am asking is, how much is a good amount to start with?
This will differ with each individual... Increasing your walks with the amounts of steps as you are planning to do sounds very good, if it's good for you...

Has your nutritionist ever recommended eating 5-6 meals/day with a portion of protein and a portion of carbs at each meal. After 12 years of WW , feeling weak and not loosing weight, I read Body for Life and started that lifestyle and I have had a lot energy since then. I don't follow the plan exactly anymore but I have tweaked it to my lifestyle and it works very well. What works the best is the 5-6 mini meals throughout the day and the protein and carbs at each meal. This keeps my insulin at an even level , I never get that lethargic feeling anymore and I am never ravenous, I eat something every 2.5 to 3 hours, sometimes whether I am hungry or not ... Granted eating like this takes a LOT of planning.

What helps to build muscles ? Protein delivered to your muscles at regular intervals... Lean meats, chicken, eggwhites, whey protein powder. Also, unprocessed carbs like oatmeal, brown rice, yams. Eat as unprocessed as possible... I take Glutamine for muscle rebuilding after a weight workout and I also take Glucosamine for joint pain, I take Vit E, C, calcium and magnesium...

I know everyone is different and I hope this helps...
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in truth it just takes a lil creative thinking, a couple of tweeks, and modification of what and how you use something. ~smiling brightly~ all these ideas are good ones. but i am sure we can come up with some real doosies ifn we put our heads together! using every day things for out of the ordinary, extraoridnary, workouts from home. home-made do-dads that make our thighs glad!!

here's a kouple from Krista to get us thinking in the right direction......... http://www.stumptuous.com/weights.html
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So let's say you live in Upper Armpit, South Dakota, or on top of a mountain in the Himalayas, and there are no gyms for 500 miles around. Or, let's say you're a complete cheapskate and don't want to pay $50/month to the local chrome 'n' tone Fluffy Fitness. Or, let's say that you're agoraphobic and haven't left your house in 13 years. Whatever the case, it is important to remember that you don't need weights to get a good workout.

Now, I'm not talking about those idiotic "you don't need weights, you just need 12 oz. cans of tuna!" workouts that Cosmopolitan magazine advertises (I swear I am not making the part about the tuna up... it was actually suggested by Cosmo for biceps curls... maybe they were aiming that article at 2-year-old malnourished children or something). I'm talking about old-school, farm girl, Dinosaur-training-style pickin' up heavy stuff lying around the house and yard.

what every weightless girl needs to have in her wardrobe

I'll tell ya what to do with all of this stuff. Some are just cheap things you can pick up at the local discount store, while others are likewise cheap things you can pick up at the local hardware store. Army surplus stores are also good places to look for things like heavy-duty knapsacks. If you have other cool ideas, drop me a line.

old soccer ball, basketball, or volleyball

jump rope

an old durable knapsack, and/or duffel bag, maybe even an old suitcase

sand

an old pillowcase

duct tape

a little kids' plastic sled or the "tray" part of an old wheelbarrow

rope

gloves

a small towel, or some plain foam, or some pipe insulation foam

a bucket

a shovel


Home Exercise Fun!

sandbag

Sandbag work can be a full body exercise. To make a sandbag, you'll need an old knapsack or any of the other durable bags I mentioned, some carpenter's sand (mine was $10 at the local building centre for 75 lbs. worth), an old pillowcase, and the duct tape. Now, when I got my bag of sand, it was the perfect weight for my first sandbag, so I just put the plastic bag of sand right into the duffel bag. You may find that depending how much you get, you want to put less in. This is where the pillowcase comes in (it's even a good idea to double up on the pillowcases, just in case). Fill the pillowcase with the desired amount of sand. Then duct-tape it shut (make sure you do a good job here... nothing like a sand explosion when you drop the bag) and put it inside the knapsack. Voila! You have your very own handy-dandy sandbag. Make a few of these which are different weights, if you like.

What to do with the sandbag? Lots of ideas, most of which sound easy until you try them!

Pick up the sandbag and put it down. Try 3 sets of 10 reps of picking-up-putting-down with a heavy sandbag. To pick up the bag, squat down and bear hug it, then stand up with it. Squat back down to put it down.

Carry the sandbag around. Pick up the sandbag in a bear hug and carry it around your backyard, as shown in this pic from the Natural Strength site. Try to do a few laps or a few minutes. Rest a bit, then try again. You can also try to carry it while holding the sandbag by the handles of the bag (a little suitcase full of sand would be useful here... get one in each hand, even).

Once you've mastered carrying the bag, try carrying it up a flight of stairs or up a hill.

Roll the bag end-over-end.

Pick up the bag and press it overhead, or try to bench press it.

If it's a knapsack, try putting it on your back and squatting with it, or doing calf raises. You can also try to squat/calf raise while bear-hugging the bag.

Grab the bag by the handles and try to row it towards you like a bent-over row. Try it with your arms around the bag too, if the bag is not too big.

Deadlift the bag by the handles. Or, if it's a suitcase or duffel bag type, try one-handed deadlifts with the bag to your side.



medicine ball

Medicine ball work helps to build explosive strength, coordination, balance, stability, and good lower back/oblique/abdominal strength. To make your own medicine ball, take an old soccer ball, basketball, or volleyball. Pull the air plug out with a pair of needlenose pliers. Then, using a funnel, fill the ball with the desired amount of water or sand (experiment with both, as both give a different weight and feel to the ball). Aim to get about 2-10 lbs. in there, as desired. Like the sandbag, it's handy to have a few of different weights. You can either replace the plug and leave it, or tape over the hole with duct tape.

Here are some medicine ball training ideas. Generally you hold the ball in both hands, but you can also try one-handed catching and throwing if the ball is light. Always keep the ball under control; you're not trying to throw it hard, but rather accurately and, eventually, quickly (start slow till you gain skill). Keep your eye on the ball, and if standing, feet firmly planted. Back should be in neutral position, never rounded. Start light then work up to heavier work. Treat medicine ball throwing like a set of weights, so instead of doing 50 throws in a row, do 3-5 sets of 8-10 throws and rest in between.

Toss the ball back and forth between you and a friend. Try:

-two hand catches and one hand catches,

-catching low, mid-height, or high with arms overhead

-catching in front or to the side

-throwing in front or to the side

-throwing between one another while facing one another

-passing the ball between you while standing sideways to one another or back-to-back

-different throwing styles such as upwards (like shooting a basket), a "pressing throw" like pushing the ball out in front of you, and underhand

-passing the ball between you while in different positions, e.g. one person standing, one lying down, or one person standing and the other crouching

Toss the ball upwards from an underhand grip, starting from a crouch position and leaping up into a standing position, kind of like how little kids throw the ball when they start baseball. You can also try the "shooting a basket" upward pressing throw with this "squat jump" movement.

Bounce the ball off a wall.

Do ab crunches with the ball held above you at arm's length, or on your chest.

Lying on the floor or ground, toss the ball into the air, sort of like a bench press with the ball.

Holding the ball at arm's length overhead, gently bend from side to side, or squat down keeping the ball overhead.

Hold the ball between your knees, and pull knees to chest, or keeping legs straight, raise legs.

Holding the ball at arm's length, make big gentle circles, bending from the waist. Make smaller circles above or in front of you.

Hold the ball to your chest, bend from the hips keeping lower back arched, then stand up again.

Do pushups with your feet on the ball.

For more ideas, check out this illustrated list of medicine ball drills (list 1 and list 2) as well as the book Medicine Ball Training by Zoltan Tenke and Andy Higgins.



sled dragging

A great full-body exercise, particularly legs, back, and grip (if you're holding the rope). To make a sled, you'll need a little kids' plastic sled with a flattish bottom, or the "tray" part of an old wheelbarrow. Loop a length of sturdy rope through the holes in the sled or wheelbarrow tray, long enough so that you can hold the rope in front of you as you pull the sled. Then, get some more of that ol' sand (you can just throw your sandbag in here, if you like) and dump it into the sled.

Here are some ideas about ways to pull the sled. Take big strides and keep back upright, looking straight ahead. If the rope is hard on your hands, try wearing gloves, and if it's hard on other parts, try wrapping a small towel around it for padding. If you have some old foam lying around, especially some old pipe insulation, that's useful for taking the bite out of the rope too. Use your duct tape if needed.

Loop the rope around your hips and walk forwards, facing away from the sled.

Loop the rope around your glutes and walk backwards, facing the sled.

Pull the sled holding the rope with your hands in different positions: over your shoulders like suspenders, with slightly bent arms out in front of you, with arms down and rope between legs.

Ironmind sells a harness specifically for sled dragging, if you want to get all fancy schmancy.

sand buckets

This exercise builds upper body strength, especially grip strength. Take your bucket and put some sand in it. If the handle of the bucket is thin and liable to really dig into your hands, wrap it in some foam or a towel. Ideally, get one bucket for each side. Then pick them up and go for a walk with them. If you can walk longer than 60 seconds with them before the burning and/or numbness in your forearms forces you to drop them, then add more sand. You can also try:

One-arm bent-over rowing a bucket towards you

Shrugging the buckets (come up on your toes at the top of each shrug for some extra calf and balance work)

Walking with the buckets held out from your sides (don't try to hold arms out too far; 8-12 inches will do)

Biceps curls with the bucket

Two-hand and one-hand deadlifts with the buckets held to your side

Filling up one bucket and leaving the other one empty, then picking up the full bucket and pouring it into the empty bucket, repeat



shoveling

This one is perhaps the most apparently easy of them all, but wait till you try it. Those of us who are gardeners will know that this is a full-body workout, especially if your soil is clay. Find a corner of your backyard that won't mind this intrusion. Then, using correct form, i.e. bending from the hips and legs, not rounding back, dig a hole. Start with a shallow hole at first, then as you get better, dig a deeper hole. Once you've dug it, fill it back in. Find this too easy? Soak the dirt first before you shovel it back in. You can repeat this exercise infinitely, or until the neighbours call the cops because they think you're burying a body.

sledgehammer

Sledgehammer training is coming into fashion for old-school physical preparation. It hearkens back to the good old days (or bad old days, depending on how you look at it) of manual labour. This type of training works the hands, forearms, upper and midback, and abdominal girdle nicely. Depending how the swing is executed, sledge work can be a full body exercise. The great thing about sledge work is that the hammers come in varying weights, from little 3 or 4 pounders like the one I'm using in the photo, to 15 pound ones with longer handles. This can provide some nice progression and variation. And they're cheap too! If you have a wall that needs knocking out in your house, this is the perfect opportunity to get started. Nothing relieves stress like bashing the **** out of drywall and wooden studs.

Despite its rather primitive appearance, sledge training is ideal cross training for anyone involved in a sport demanding body rotation. This includes throwers, martial artists, tennis players, and golfers. Swinging a weighted object under control requires stabilization of the trunk region, which means some killer ab and lower back work. To increase the power of the stroke, simply increase the hip involvement.

Mike Hartle's series of articles on sledge training at bodybuilding.com is a good primer on the subject. He covers things like different strokes, how to set up a sledge training program, and so forth. You needn't drag a truck tire into your yard though. Just find any slightly yielding surface to hit, such as a patch of grass, or even just practice swinging the sledge like a golf club or tennis racket.

Jamie Hale has written an intro to sledgehammer training here.

Sport-specific.com on sledgehammer training





putting it all together

The first thing to remember when putting together your farm girl workout is to treat these exercises like regular weights, which means:

use good form: don't round the back, lift using the legs where necessary, don't jerk or twist abruptly

privilege quality of movement over quantity

treat the movements like reps of a weight set, and rest in between (as well as between workouts)

don't try to do everything on one day; pick 5-10 movements per workout

start slow and light, since you can always work up to a larger workload and heavier weight

include a warmup and cool down with each workout

sample workout 1: full-body workout

This workout should be done about 3 times weekly, with ideally a day of rest in between workouts.

medicine ball


pick 2 throwing movements and do each one for 2-3 sets of 8-12 reps

sandbag


sandbag bear hug and carry 2-3 sets of 30-60 seconds


sandbag bear hug and squat, 2-3 sets of 6-8 reps

sand bucket


bucket one-arm row, 2-3 sets of 8-10 reps


bucket walk, 2-3 sets of 30-60 seconds

sled dragging


drag sled forward for 2-3 sets of 30 seconds

jumping rope


jump rope for 30-60 second intervals, with 30 seconds walking in between, for 5-10 minutes


sample workout 2: split workout

This workout should be done no more than 4 times weekly, with no more than 2 workouts in a row before a rest day. Ideally it should be done every other day.

day 1 lower body


medicine ball


pick 2 kinds of jumping throws and do each one for 2-3 sets of 8-12 reps

sandbag


sandbag bear hug and squat, 3 sets of 6-8 reps

medicine ball


medicine ball lunges, 3 x 10-12

sled dragging


drag sled forward for 2-3 sets of 30 seconds


face sled and walk backwards dragging sled for 2-3 sets of 30 seconds

jumping rope


jump rope for 30-60 second intervals, with 30 seconds walking in between, for 5-10 minutes

day 2 upper body


medicine ball


pick 2 kinds of pressing throws and do each one for 2-3 sets of 8-12 reps

sandbag


sandbag picking-up-and-putting-down, 2-3 x 8-10 reps


sandbag bear hug and carry, 2-3 sets of 30-60 seconds

sand bucket


bucket rows, 2-3 x 6-8


bucket biceps curls, 2-3 x 6-8


bucket walk, 2-3 sets x 30-60 seconds

jumping rope


jump rope for 30-60 second intervals, with 30 seconds walking in between, for 5-10 minutes
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Hi, I love to hike and walking is a good start to getting ready. You have a pedometer, so, make yourself walk 5000 steps everyday for about 2 weeks, then increase to 7500, then 10,000. Be sure to include hills in your walking. Running really isn't that important. Of course, if the walking is too easy, you should try running. One thing I like to do is jog 1/2 mile, walk 1/2 mile, jog 1/2 mile, walk 1/2 mile. Another way to get ready for a hike is to do step aerobics. Regular aerobics are good for your heart, but I found that even though I can do aerobics for 1 hour, my legs will still be killing me on a hike. Adding steps into your routine really helps. Even if you don't have step, use the stairs in your house. Try going up and down them for 15 minutes, then increase that to 30, etc. Finally, you don't need weights to get your back, chest, shoulders into shape for carrying back packs. Do push ups and tricep dips. I do 25 standard push ups, 20 tricep pushups, 15 divebomber pushups. And it's a killer!!

Good luck with hiking. I would also suggest finding some easy trails near you and attempting those before going on a big hike.
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