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Old 01-22-2004, 12:37 AM   #1  
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I love my coffee in the morning, how about creamer, is it okay? I normally use sweet and low and coffee mate creamer (powder) is the creamer okay? I'm one phase one and i've been using it.
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The Good FAts Good CArbs Guide allows 1 tsp of powdered creamer or 2 Tbsp of liquid light or fat-free creamer. I hope this helps.
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Hey Ruth I saw where you said 2tbl sp of liquid ff creamer. Does that include the flavored. I have gotten so used to drinkin coffee with it that I would rather go without than to not have my french vanilla. Also it says 1 cup caf is decaf unlimited? This is such a great forum!
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Nothing is said in the guide about flavour or not. What flavour do you get in creamer?
Coffee - ecaf or not - is not limited, It may cause some people to stall but is fine for others.
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I buy the coffee mate ff french vanilla. I thought it was a limit of one cup of caffeine coffee a day. Which I don't mind the 1/2 n 1/2 coffee to much caff. gets me jumpy. Thanks for all you info.
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The Guide says no to flavoured creamers which contain sugar.
Nowhere does it limit coffee per day.
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Thanks Ruth your a world of info! Good and bad!
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Exclamation Always, Always Read The Labels!!!

Danzgal, back in early November, in preparation for the big ol' Thanksgiving feast, we went to Sam's Club and loaded up on a lot of stuff... including inexpensive powdered coffee creamer. I haven't been using it since I started SBD; I've been using fresh heavy cream. Anyways, a couple of days ago, I looked at the ingredients list for this stuff. First thing on the list:

CORN SYRUP SOLIDS!

What I would recommend, Danzgal, is a field trip to your favorite grocery store. Go right after a really big meal--leave your money & checkbook at home so you can't buy anything. Peruse the aisles and read the labels on all those favorite products you used to buy. It could be the most eye-opening hour of the year... maybe of your life.

It's been said so many times that it's a cliche by now, but in the past 15 years, I've literally "tried it all." Herbalife, Deal-A-Meal, Dexatrim, Rotation Diet, T-Factor, "Cabbage Soup," Atkins once or twice... and through the course of four or five membership periods, I've dumped close to $2K into Weight Watchers, International.

Now admittedly, I enjoyed some success on WW. My most successful period, January-May 1998, I probably lost close to 50 pounds, going from 338 down to maybe 295, 296. It was very important at the time, as I was also going through some fairly intense psychotherapy over some childhood abuse issues. Everything seemed to be falling into place at the time, and I was quite pleased with myself.

I'm beginning to see that, for me, the major selling point of WW that is so "good" for a lot of other folks is the same thing that has done me in so many times on that program, and that is the idea/concept that, "You can eat anything you want." You can have the cake, or the pretzels, or the popcorn, as long as you "budget" for it.

My grandfather died at age 89. A dryland or "dirt" farmer all his life, he and Grandma raised 8 kids on this little farm. At times they grew cotton, corn, hay for the cows. They had anywhere from 40-60 head of cattle, sometimes a few hogs, couple dozen chickens, guinea hens. My mother says when she was growing up, they even had some turkeys. Always a big vegetable garden on one side of the house. Grandma canned a lot of vegetables, homemade peach & pear preserves for the homemade bread.

When I spent my weeks out there during the summers of my childhood, there was cornbread for breakfast most every morning, baked in an iron skillet. Stone-ground cornmeal from the local grain mill, fresh butter, eggs from the henhouse. Grandpa milked a cow twice a day, straight into a clean steel pail. When chicken was on the menu, Grandma went to the hen house. When the deep freeze was running short on meat, Grandpa hauled a cow to the meat market for butchering & processing (when all the kids still lived at home, butchering and processing livestock was a "family affair").

Fresh milk. Fresh eggs. Fresh butter, cream. Fresh cuts of meat. Fruits and vegetables from the garden or the tree. Fresh baked breads. Even a little pie or pound cake once in a while. (The amazing thing about Grandma's baking, is that she measured nothing! Handfuls & pinches.)

Grandpa died of cancer. He was a tobacco user much of his life, but he never had a gut. Grandma's been in a nursing home for the last 12 years or so. Turns 96 next month.

Food for thought.
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Danzgal, I'm somewhat embarrassed to see that in that last big diatribe, I never got around to your "point."

For your coffee, use heavy cream, or half & half. Sweeten (for now) with artificial sweetener. A few drops of vanilla or orange extract is a nice touch. Another nice "trick" I've found is when you put your ground coffee into the filter basket, sprinkle a little ground cinnamon and/or cocoa powder onto the coffee, just before brewing.

Both Torani and Da Vinci make flavored syrups, sweetened with Splenda, that come in a wide variety of flavors. Buy them directly online, or try your local coffee house. Both of the coffee houses here in town will sell me a 750ml bottle for @ $9.
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I'm so happy to read that I can have my "real" coffee. I always drink my coffee with 1/2 & 1/2 and switched to Land O Lakes Fat Free Creamer as the book suggested once I got on Phase II. It's O.K. but not quite like the real thing. So are you saying that I can have regular 1/2 & 1/2. I drink several cups of coffee a day. I have been trying to cut down on coffee and drink some decaf tea in between. I do use Splenda.

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In the food guide, I see regular half & half as ''very limited'. For some reason, FF half and half isn't in there. If anybody has the carb/fat guide, will you tell me what page FF H&H is on?
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It's not there as FF half and half - just regular, light and medium which are classified very limited, limited and very limited. Page 94-95. A serving is listed as 2 Tbs.
I hate to disagree with the good Dr. A but further down the page he says fat-free sour cream is good and the carb and sugar counts are higher!
I wonder how sour cream would work in coffee
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Hey, the mishap in the sour cream and H&H could be asked in one of his chats! Maybe it is a misprint he needs to work out. This is all so confusing sometimes. I love the plan, but sometimes I think it wasn't proofread very good. He probably has a staff helping - and too many cooks spoil the soup! (is that how the saying goes?)

I like steamed/frothed skim milk in coffee. YUM.
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Yes Jennifer, you got the sayin right. It could be a misprint cause I have found 'em while readin the book. I have got to get the guide. They were out when I got my book and have not had a chance to go anywhere else yet.
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