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Old 02-17-2015, 08:20 AM   #1  
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Welcome back to the Daily Chat thread - post your plans for today, share what's been happening, ask questions!

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Hi ladies, I have two packet questions for you.

1. Is the vegitable chilli a restricted item?
2. My coach told me yesterday that the Raspberry Jelly is an additional packet you can have on top of your other 3 per day. Has anyone heard this before? I have been having it as one of my three, and never heard that wasn't correct!

Thanks in advance.
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Hi Teags
I dont go to a clinic anymore so can't address the chili. It used to be restricted but they have reformulated many restricteds into non.

The raspberry jelly and blue/cran granata are two IP items that are collagen based protein. Collagen is an incomplete protein.

You can use it as one of your three packets every-other day OR as an extra (4th packet) which works especially well for folks who have started exercising and need to add a packet.

If you like the choice of the lower carb/cal packet option, the Orange drink is a lower one. I don't know what other ones they still make that are 80 cals but it used to be the fruit drinks. I loved the pink lemonade.
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Veggie chili is restricted.

Peach/mango drink and pink lemonade are 80 cals, and both pretty good. The lemon tea is 90, I personally didn't enjoy it but everyone's tastes are different.

As Lisa said the raspberry jelly and blue/cran can be one of your three, or an extra if it doesn't affect your losses. But you can't have them every day, at most every other day (so if you have a raspberry today, you can have it or the blue/cran on Thursday).
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Good morning! I am in the middle of my third week on IP, and I really like it so far. The plan works if you follow it, that's for sure! I had a little hiccup last week, as I was traveling most of the week and had a hard time following the plan to a "T". I'm feeling good starting this week, and it will be much better
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Does anyone know if the IP Alternative (Diabetic) protocol sheets under the FAQ stickies are the latest available? They aren't dated but don't seem to be the same as to allowed veggies etc as regular protocol sheets which IP updated this past yr.

A trip to the Dr this am showed blood work that was a bit alarming and I wanted to be able to wrap my head around this before I see my coach on Thursday for my wkly check-in. I rarely post here, but read most posts daily and knew that someone here would likely know. Thanks for any help!
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Can anyone explain to me the rationale for excluding cooked onions from the diet? I understand that caramelized onions are higher in carbs, but I'm just talking about in a crockpot recipe. We have been using onions in our crockpot gumbo and chili and are losing steadily.
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Does anyone know if the IP Alternative (Diabetic) protocol sheets under the FAQ stickies are the latest available? They aren't dated but don't seem to be the same as to allowed veggies etc as regular protocol sheets which IP updated this past yr.

A trip to the Dr this am showed blood work that was a bit alarming and I wanted to be able to wrap my head around this before I see my coach on Thursday for my wkly check-in. I rarely post here, but read most posts daily and knew that someone here would likely know. Thanks for any help!
Hi Peggy: The allowable veggies and all the vegetable & proteins info is the same as the newest Regular P1, the only difference is the dairy, fruit, and starch carb choices as outlined on the IP Alternative. I have them but don't have a scanner so I can't upload here.
Best wishes on your health journey!
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The allowable veggies and all the vegetable & proteins info is the same as the newest Regular P1, the only difference is the dairy, fruit, and starch carb choices as outlined on the IP Alternative.
Thanks Liana. That is what I figured.
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Can anyone explain to me the rationale for excluding cooked onions from the diet? I understand that caramelized onions are higher in carbs, but I'm just talking about in a crockpot recipe. We have been using onions in our crockpot gumbo and chili and are losing steadily.
In the past most people have commented that it has to do with the carmelization. Much of what has been selected by IP is based on the nutrition data and trial and error. Over time protocol changes. When I started there were no unlimited veggies but I was eating all the celery I wanted and now that is part of P1. So if you are fine with cooked onions, that is your choice, in all likelihood you aren't getting that much - unlike if you were choosing to eat 2 cups of them!

But I should also say that there are those that have great success being 100%. Eat the sheet for the most success.

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Can anyone explain to me the rationale for excluding cooked onions from the diet? I understand that caramelized onions are higher in carbs, but I'm just talking about in a crockpot recipe. We have been using onions in our crockpot gumbo and chili and are losing steadily.
I also use onions in the slow cooker without any adverse effect. The theory behind the caramelisation is that you break down the long chain sugars into short chain sugars and the body can utilise the carbs more quickly, thus invoking an instant insulin response. We are supposed to be avoiding the insulin release in P1 to give the pancreas a rest and get our overproduction issues under control and avoid excess blood glucose being stored as fat by that insulin release.

If you, like me, have never suffered from insulin related issues it may not be as big of a deal for you as for many others.

Just make sure you count the carbs towards your day's allowance of veggies (I tend to do 1.5x the amount to account for any conversion to short chain carbs).

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Down 2 lbs on the first week of the alternative program. And better blood sugars. Think I will following for a while. It was a very nice surprise because I didn't "feel" like I was losing anything! Going into my 7th week ...
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Does anyone know if the IP Alternative (Diabetic) protocol sheets under the FAQ stickies are the latest available? They aren't dated but don't seem to be the same as to allowed veggies etc as regular protocol sheets which IP updated this past yr.

A trip to the Dr this am showed blood work that was a bit alarming and I wanted to be able to wrap my head around this before I see my coach on Thursday for my wkly check-in. I rarely post here, but read most posts daily and knew that someone here would likely know. Thanks for any help!
http://laportewellness.com/clients/4...ative_Plan.pdf

this is the one i have used, but this one is not dated either

http://www.weigh2goweightloss.com/fi...tPhase%201.pdf
this one was dated 2013 for comparison

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Does anyone know if the IP Alternative (Diabetic) protocol sheets under the FAQ stickies are the latest available? They aren't dated but don't seem to be the same as to allowed veggies etc as regular protocol sheets which IP updated this past yr.

A trip to the Dr this am showed blood work that was a bit alarming and I wanted to be able to wrap my head around this before I see my coach on Thursday for my wkly check-in. I rarely post here, but read most posts daily and knew that someone here would likely know. Thanks for any help!
These are the groups defined as on the list I was just given last week from my coach....my blood sugars have levelled out not that I am using this instead of the regular one.

Group 1: (Carbohydrates) 2 slices of toast (whole grain, pumpernickel, rye, multigrain sourdough, stone ground whole wheat, oat bran, sprouted grain), 150g whole-wheat pasta, 150g brown rice (non-instant), 1 sweet potato or
small boiled potato, 60g oatmeal (non-instant), 150 to 200g couscous, 50g unsweetened cereal (bran, oat,
whole grain, barley), 150g cooked legumes (chick peas, lentils, green peas, kidney beans), 150g corn.

Group 2: (Fresh Fruit) (ex: 1 serving) 1 Apple, 2 Apricots, 1 Banana, 7oz (200g) of Fresh Berries, ½ Cantaloupe, 10 Cherries, 1 Fig, ½ Grapefruit, 10 Grapes, 1/5 Honeydew Melon, 1 Large Kiwi, 1 Mango, 1 Nectarine, 1 Orange, 7 oz (200g) of Papaya, 1 Passion Fruit, 1 Peach, 1 Slice of Pineapple, 2 Plums, 1 Tangerine, 1 Slice of Watermelon

Group 3: (fats) 1 sugar-free yogurt, 1 6-oz. glass of milk (2% M.F. or less), 30g cheese (about 20% M.F.), 120g
cottage cheese, 60g feta cheese.

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Down 2 lbs on the first week of the alternative program. And better blood sugars. Think I will following for a while. It was a very nice surprise because I didn't "feel" like I was losing anything! Going into my 7th week ...
Congrats!! I am glad that the Alt P1 is working for you & helping your blood sugars too!

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