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Old 08-20-2009, 09:20 AM   #1  
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Default Being talked down by someone

*sigh* does anyone ever faced this?
It just seemed to be that everyone in my house was like this, "want to get fitter? THEN SPORTS EXERCISE FITNESS" in a various degree, and all their words have a "and therefore, your attempt is USELESS."-like addition behind. I DO sports too, just not in the way a bodybuilder would.

I just had a talk with my brother this noon about how, baked chicken katsu is definitely healthier (in the diet sense) than fried food because lack of oil when he went on a talk about how you should just do sports if you want to get fitter and that calorie counting and watching one's intake is not important if there's no sport.

Thanks for the information, but watching one's intake is just as important! D:

And logic flaws aside, he's not even fit!

Sorry for the ranting but....I just feel annoyed, because if I keep up on them, I'll soon get down and/or seeking fast shortcuts, while dieting needs to be stable, gradual process, doesn't it? >_>
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Old 08-20-2009, 09:26 AM   #2  
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A healthy "diet" meaning the way you eat everyday is the first step. Eating lean meats fruits and veggies drinking water is all very important. Its very self defeating to go work your *** off in a sport then go eat a huge pizza you have done nothing there. If you eat healthy and workout it will make the weight drop. They go hand and hand working out and eating right. No offense but he sounds very misguided and uninformed don't listen to him.
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Old 08-20-2009, 09:31 AM   #3  
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my personal opinion is that the food we put in our mouths is more important than the exercise we're doing. I think that losing weight is around 65% diet and 35% exercise. (that's just my own theory though).
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Old 08-20-2009, 09:37 AM   #4  
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I agree, it's a combination of both and if we are overweight it's caused by both over eating and not moving (most of the time, yes there are different medical conditions and so forth but for the majority of us...)

I love this article in Time Magazine:
Why exercise won’t make you thin.
http://www.time.com/time/health/arti...914857,00.html

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Old 08-20-2009, 09:51 AM   #5  
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Everyone has an opinion, and they love sharing it! How annoying! He'll see that what you're doing is working, and that he's wrong eventually. And he is wrong.

Think about it-if I don't work out one day, I can't really tell on the scale the next morning. But when I eat fried chicken (even in moderation) I can tell from the water weight. Although working out is important, and you have to do it most of the time, the food is waaaaay more important. He thinks you can have fried chicken on a regular basis and be healthy? And besides, the type of workout doesn't really matter all the much, as long as you're moving and raising your heart rate.

I've had people tell me that I have to run instead of walking, but I've lost weight by walking (and watching what I eat, of course!), so they're obviously wrong!
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Old 08-20-2009, 10:43 AM   #6  
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Do your research, understand all the issues, and take comfort in your knowledge. Everyone thinks they are allowed to have an opinion about weight loss, even when they've done no research and are just spewing what they've heard from someone, news, etc. Those opnions should just be ignored. You know why you are doing what you are doing. You know that it works. You know it's based on good science.

I don't discuss or give weight loss advice unless someone asks me specifically. If someone tries to give me advice, I just smile, thank them for the advice and just go on my way.
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Old 08-20-2009, 11:10 AM   #7  
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I literally had this same argument with my sister like 2 weeks ago! She was saying I should eat whatever I want and just workout, workout, workout...

I tried to explain to her that, while I agree activity is important, I feel it is vital to be feeding my body what it needs... healthy, balanced meals filled with nutrient dense foods.

You're not alone... and your effort is not wasted. Keep up the great work!
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Old 08-20-2009, 11:11 AM   #8  
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sarahyu, I read that article, too, and it made me feel so much better! For a long time I was going to the gym 4-5x per week, but not really restricting my calories, and I wasn't losing ANYTHING! So I agree that it's important to do BOTH.

I had an appointment with a personal trainer who told me that everything I was eating was wrong (I really don't eat unhealthy foods, I just have a problem controlling portions), but the things he was suggesting were unrealistic for my lifestyle. The way he was talking to me made me feel like I knew nothing. Needless to say, I elected not to purchase training sessions with that trainer!
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Old 08-20-2009, 12:03 PM   #9  
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You know, there's room for a lot of variety in beliefs and approaches. It can be great to discuss other points of view. But he is so far off the mark that it's not even worth giving any second thought to. Seriously. Just smile, say OK, and walk away, change the subject, or just keep smiling and saying OK.
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This is exactly why I don't discuss these things with people. Well, my immediate family knows what I'm doing and they should win an award they are so supportive!

Anyway, if you haven't seen your doctor then I highly suggest you do. Then when someone offers their opinion you can always say, Dr. XYZ has me doing ABC. I find that quoting my doctor is a fabulous way to get people to listen. It's so official! Since I don't want to discuss weight loss with people and people are noticing some small changes I just couch everything in terms of health changes suggested by my doctor (only if they bring things up).

Working for me!
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Old 08-20-2009, 12:52 PM   #11  
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Everyone has an opinion, and they love sharing it!
UGH, isnt that the truth. no matter how successful you've been, seems like almost everyone (whether theyre fat, thin, fit, or have never successfully lost weight in their lives) wants to tell you about what you're doing wrong. everyone has their "2 cents" so to speak, and its almost like they cant stand NOT saying it. just ignore them. no matter what plan you're on someone will be telling you to do this or that.
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I say, always consider the source. I can also say that absolutely 100% diet has much, much more to do with obtaining and sustaining a healthy weight. Sure, exercise is good for overall health and has numerous benefits and does burn calories. But, one piece of chocolate cake (average one pc. serving) is 500 calories. That would take me more than one hour of running to get rid of.
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Old 08-20-2009, 01:57 PM   #13  
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Thanks for all the wonderful support! And the article is really good and makes sense, I just read it xD

Yeah, I know everyone are entitled to their freedom of speech and all, but they sometimes just didn't know where to stop or whether their speech are hurting people. I know, I'm learning.

It's such a supportive thing seeing people having this kind of trouble too, and being able to go through that makes me even more excited!
I did got used to cope with that, and it's successfully stopped my diet, or forced me to find quick shortcuts, which ended up burning me out, so having the supports really help for fighting.
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Old 08-20-2009, 08:50 PM   #14  
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You are very correct, and so is he (a little bit).

Dieting is useless, you need to plan your meal for the rest of your life, not just a little while. Get in the habit of eating helathier food, even if it takes a gradual process to get used to it. This is the first step in losing weight: Eating less calories than your body needs, and making sure that most of those calories are from carbs and not fat.

"Calorie counting" is useless unless you eat an very excessive amount of calories a day, like 3600+. Instead, I count cholesterol, sodium content, and saturated fat--just look at the labels when you go shopping

I'd also like to point out that women don't get bulky like men when they do weight training, they don't have enough androgen (male hormones). Their muscles get smaller and firmer, in turn make your body look smaller and more sculpted. So if this is the reason you don't do it, there's no harm in trying
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Old 08-21-2009, 07:15 AM   #15  
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I would suggest not talking to people about nutrition, unless they are supportive and you can have a neutral conversation about it. If you sense that someone is telling you that "you're wrong" then end the conversation. Your fitness and nutrition are nobody's business and it should stay between you and the your scale.

I'm no expert but I feel good when I exercise. And I feel good when I eat right. I don't need anyone's permission to do what feels good to me.

You know what they say? Eating nutritiously makes you look good in clothes. But exercising makes you look good naked!
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