Ok. Someone stated that Cornbread made with meal, ff milk and Splenda is not core because "Bread" is not core. Cornbread is typically made with cornmeal, FLOUR, OIL, eggs, baking powder and milk. If we omit the flour and use unsweetend applesauce instead of the oil, then it is made of only Core foods. That makes it Core in my book. If not, then all these recipes for Core foods combined into one dish have to be thrown out because, even though they only contain Core foods, the name of the dish is NOT listed on the Core List.

If the "bread" in cornbread causes them problems, then I will just call mine Cornapple Mash.

I agree too, if it is made with all core stuff like no white flour, no oil instead sugar free applesauce. Also ff milk. I think it is core. Maybe? Where is Spryng, she might know? I know I love it the "core" way! J

There seems to be so much confusion regarding cornbread,desserts, etc......In my opinon - and granted this is just an opinion - if it is made with all Core ingredients, AND it is not a TRIGGER FOOD, I would consider it CORE. As to the Oat flour question, a "health-nut" friend of mine explained it this way - the more you refine a grain (be it wheat/oats etc ) the less work your body has to do to break it down and the less nutrients it will abosorb. I think that also, if you are say grinding oat flour you will use more of it that you would regular oatmeal, and your body would not register "fullness" as quickly because of the "refinement". I hope this makes sense.....clear as mud

-nate

P.S - there was a response from WWers on the WW site regarding Oat Flour, and NO FLOURS are Core, I assume that this is the reason.....although they are being rather vague, I wish they would clarify their reasons specificly as to why certian foods/combinations or foods are/(are not) Core.....that would end this seemingly endless debate as to this food or that food.....

P.S.S - sorry for the rambling, I just love cornbread dang it

I understand what you are saying about the flour and being "processed" if you grind it. But all we are doing with the cornmeal and other core ingredients is "cooking it" and if that negates the Core element then we have to eat our oats raw, after all we are "changing" it when we boil it in water. I admit I am a little hardheaded--well a lot hardheaded--but I am having problems understanding this cornbread thing. I mean, if you use Core HB, chili powder, onion, and tomato sauce, isn't the Chili Core or not because Chili is not listed as a CORE food. CIN, give us some help here.

I agree...I think WWers has made things really confussing by saying that ANY bread product is UnCore...or if the final recipe is listed as Uncore (in a general sense) then the whole recipe is UnCore...regardless of its contents. I was also kinda thinking that they started to backpedal a bit when the updates were made. Did they not realize that we would start making "desserts" and/or "bread" with the Core foods. WW people can be pretty darn resourceful about their bread and desserts....after all, when you start denying us the real thing, we start creating...heck we used to make our own ketsup for heaven's sake.

-nate

Take the trigger foods. I understand that they eliminated some foods that were originally Core on the test panels because some of the people tended to overeat those particular foods. Why couldn't they just limit them like they did rice and potatoes? For instance, I like to eat the ff/sf yogurt in the morning as one of my calcium choices. I only eat 1 a day/5 days a week because it was something I could do easily at my desk. I would never eat more than one a day--it's ok but it ain't pie! Why couldn't I incorporate that into my eating plan without worrying about the 1 point it would add? I understand that 1 & 2 pt. foods add up in a week's time but if I used that instead of one of the glasses of milk I would drink anyway and count as Core--what's the harm? Cereal, I always ate high fiber and only ate it for breakfast. If the calories are the same, why would one Brand be Core and the other not. Even on Core, it's all about the number of calories you eat in one day versus your activity level. I guess we just have to see what works for us and judge by the weight loss which for me was another 2 lbs. this morning!. That's 6 so far on Core and I still love it even if they are making it confusing.

btw, where in Texas are u Janette?

oh yeah....

Let's hear it for "Baked Corn-Apple Mush Souffle"

-nate :-)

Small town in East Texas. About 30 miles in any direction from everywhere.

I used to live in Plano. North of Dallas. Now I am up here in Yankeetown, PA...LOL. I miss Texas alot. I refuse to let go of my accent though! (Pinto beans are CORE, yay!)

I am in Big D

Actually it is because of the PROCESSING you do where you can't tell that it is Core Food with the finished product.

Core Plan is about eating whole foods, healthy foods. If you can't tell it is a core food in the finished product they are considering it not a Core Food as well as the fact as the fact they made the decision that all breads made for Core Foods or not is not Core.

I am just wondering whether or not WW could emphasize learning to feel full and to limit triggers. Also maybe suggest if someone is having a hard time dealing with trigger foods and binging that they may want to consult with their doctor (could be insulin resistence, hypoglycemia, binge eating disorder, thyroid problems etc).

I make pancakes with core ingrediants and make enough for one serving, I'd hope I can count that as core.

Cheers!

Ali

If they did this they would have to have a medical professional at eat site. This was discussed back when I was on exchanges.

I went to an extra meeting since the 'changes' (see other post) came out and they said if it doesn't look like the 'original' CoreFoods in the finished product it is not a CoreFood. Now use it, don't use it, count it, don't it is all about making it a way of life for you.

I agree kelly.....See this is where it gets kinda dicey....when you start cooking things, they usually cease to look like themselves...if we are moving toward the "Raw" thing , that could get weird