Trish, where did you find the thyroid test and information that said correcting blood sugar will fix thyroid? If it was online I would like to read it.

I am sorry to hear you are getting a bump up. It doesn't sound like you are doing anything wrong except for not eating so many meals. I think total calories are still the same the way you are eating. I hope you will get back to losing.

DH was released from the doctor in January but this follow up was just to be sure it healed properly. I am happy the exrays were good. The doctor just needed more money! LOL. He is supposed to go back in 3 years. I don't think.he will go.

Carol Sue Glad DH x-rays were fine. Here is the link to where I took the thyroid test.
https://www.womenshealthnetwork.com/thyroid-health/low-thyroid-symptoms-in-women.aspx

DS and I talked about how we eat. I think I'm doing okay with the eating. She doesn't understand why I'm hungry but I really think it is just one week into this. I planned my eating for today on MFP and will end up with just under 1000 calories and since they don't allow me to change my ratios, I just won't hit the button that tells you how much weight your will lose in 5 weeks. Those don't work for me any way and that way I don't get the message "you aren't eating enough calories". Since bariatrics set my calories between 1100 and 1500, I noticed that I have not had 1500 calories any day this week. My highest was yesterday at a little over 1400 calories. I honestly think it was 2 days of high sodium that caused the bump and it should come back down tomorrow. Hopefully the bump is just a temporary thing. I think I will also let them know that I would like to take the Welbutrin and have them give me a prescription for it.

I slept good last night but really feeling sluggish today. Not sure why.

I missed a call from the dietitian today, but missed her call. She wanted to discuss my lab results. I called her but she didn't answer so I'm waiting to hear from her. In the meantime. I'm back to 2MAD along with 1 snack, but I will show it as 3 meals. I will keep tracking for my satisfaction but will not be taking copies of them to the NP after tomorrow. Also DS said for me to ask them if I can take the pills or at least half the dosage of the pills along with the shot as the pills curbed my appetite.

Edited to say... Just read info from Eating Well newsletter. I think my problem this week has been low fat. I've cut my fat too much. I just read that we need 60 grams of fat each day minimum. So I'm not going to use low fat or FF products I bought. Will see how that works. My problem might be not eating enough fat not thyroid at all as symptoms are very similar. Still haven't heard from dietitian on lab results.

Trish, I don't think I ever entered ratios on MFP. I don't even know what you are talking about. I just look at the totals they give me and at each food to see where it came from. I took that thyroid test and it said I am moderate to severe. I don't think that's right so I will take it again. I might be slight but not moderate to severe IMO.

I don't want to give you advice that is different from the center but I would not eat low fat or go out of my way to add fat. I just hope you start losing again. I sure don't think you overeat and I don't believe in forcing it just to follow a plan. It just might be your thyroid. My friend takes thyroid meds and she was still overweight but she ate a lot of sugar and junk food before she went on her current plan.

Does your sister take the Wellbutrin? You might as well try whatever they have to offer.

I took the test again and it says mild. I think some of my symptoms are from psoriasis like skin and nails and not from thyroid.

I got the results of my Lab work and everything was normal. The dietitian said the only thing was that your blood sugar was up a little bit. I said "Really?" She said let me check it. She came back and laughed and said, "Yes it was 111 instead of 110. I actually am happy to know that I am actually healthy according to my lab work results. So I'm thinking that the reason I have felt so bad the past few days was from eating low fat and some FF foods. I told DS that I am going to give her the Smart Balance margarine that I bought because I am going to go back to using regular butter as well as some good fats. She says she doesn't buy low fat anything, but then she uses Smart Balance butter as well as peanut butter.

I also sent word to the NP that I do want her to call in a prescription for the generic Wellbutrin. I was told she would probably call it in so hopefully I can go get it tomorrow. DS says she thinks the reason she is doing so well is that not only does she weigh more than me, but she also take thyroid, Victoza and an anti-depressiant although not Wellbutrin.

Carol Sue I wrote you a private message on 3FC because it isn't reading my password from Edge which is the browser I've had to change to so I can sign into my primary doctor's portal. If I can't get it to work, I might have to do a new registration here on 3fc.

Any way when I switched to Edge browser, MFP worked completely so that I could change the protein, carb and fat portions to fit the bariatric solutions recommendations using the high calorie they set at 1500. So today, my calories will be 1059 and my protein, fat and carbs are in a perfectly good range. I did have 2MAD and will finish the day with a Premier shake with blueberries for dinner. I am not going to eat anything after my 8 hr window. I won't eat anything before I go weigh at the clinic, but since I have some errands to run, I will take a Premier shake to drink when I leave there.

Have a good evening everybody.

Trish: things sound good. I will just remind you that sometimes as we lose weight we will lose stored glucose from the liver giving us a bump especially in fasting glucose.
Dr. Fung would say its a good thing if its happening while we lose weight, and a danger sign if its happening while gaining or maintaining weight.

Mad Thanks. I thought I remembered you telling us that before. Thanks for verifying it again. I'm looking forward to some good weight loss etc ahead of me.

Steady at 154, which was yesterday's fasted weight. I ate well yesterday, keeping in a 6 hour eating window.
Didn't do much though, didn't feel up to walking. I am cold, or barely warm, and didn't want to go outside much.
I have an appointment this morning, so maybe getting out earlier will be helpful.

Have a good day

Trish I sent you a PM. I am so glad your bloodwork is all good. So now all you have to do is follow the plan as best you can and hope the losses continue.

I use butter sometimes and sometimes I use butter spray on veggies. It is 0 calories and 0 fat but tastes like butter. I get plenty of fat. DH cooks the eggs in butter and eggs are fat. I only have bacon once in a while. I eat olives and nuts, occasionally I have sardines. I used to use a spread instead of butter. Sometimes I use butter with olive oil and sea salt. It is softer. My yogurt is full fat but I don't eat it every day although I think I should. I rarely get hungry, even when fasting. I get appetite that makes me want something but that's not hunger. That's cravings. I wish I could feel hunger. On rare occasions when I do get hungry I feel so much better.

Mad, I hope you feel better.

Quick flyby as I head out the door for WI at bariatrics. Weight back down to 210.8 and FBG 118. Got a couple errands to run in that part of town.
BBL

Carol: I think waiting for hunger is a great thing. I don't feel it so often or as long anymore. I often feel it when I wake up, until I have had my tea. Then about lunch time, and I have something to drink on fasting days, and it goes away. Again around 6 pm, and again with fasting I have some soda water or something like that. The feeling is brief.
The rare times it keeps going, I will put a couple of grains of salt under my tongue, or have a swig of pickle juice, and the feeling goes away.
On the other hand, thinking about food will trigger a feeling like hunger, but not actually hunger. This is habit thinking to me, and I am only somewhat successful resisting those thoughts.
Getting lots of fat with foods really helps. I found yesterday that my "lunch" was quite filling, so DH and I just had caesar salad for supper. What with the dressing, the home made bacon pits, and the cheese whisps (we use these instead of croutons) and the parmesan, its a pretty high fat salad. This was nicely filling and kept me going through the night.
All well that way.

Mad I hope you are feeling better today and not coming down with something.

My appointment was weird today. They had a mobile bus out front with a note on the door to come to the it. I walked over there and saw those tall steps and I told the guy that I wasn't sure I could get up there and that I knew DS couldn't when she came today. The girl in the front office was out because her hubby has been sick and no one knew how to keep the front door to the building open. I guess someone figured it out because they came in and weighed me and gave me my shot in there. I lost 3 lbs and I only know that because I remembered about what I weighed on their scale last week. I did see the NP for her to give me the prescription for Wellbutrin and will see if the price is within reason for me to take it. DH and I will go to Walmart later to get it filled. However, they won't be in the office when I need a refill and I'm not sure I want her refilling it. When I run out, I may call my primary and see if he will fill it each month if I decide to continue taking it. It is going to cost $65 every month to see the NP for her to give me a new prescription. So may just talk to primary about it.

I don't go back for an appointment until Dec. 10th and that is the only appointment I have next month. So I might just try following the diet with the new protein, fat and carb ration knowing I'm getting the right amount of fat and see if it will all work out itself and maybe I won't have to take them at all. We'll see.

I was able to make a copy of my lab work from primary's office and I'm amazed at how great my lab work is. TSH looks like it is on the low end of normal but the other T3 and T4 are right in the middle. I don't know what a lot of the other stuff stands for but they are all pretty much in the middle except for sodium is just a tad lower. So I assume the only thing to do is just work the diet and exercise. I may just need to handle stress a little better than I do. It helps me to know all that.

Carol Sue Thanks for your help with 3fc. The message that sent me to my email address to come here and change my password didn't make any sense to me and it might be easier to just do another one. I use the spray butter a lot too especially since it is less calories. However, I'm beginning to think it drains us of energy etc if we don't get enough however, I still don't want to eat loads of it like on keto.

DH will be up soon. I need to make a small grocery list for when we go to Walmart. Also need to check on DS. I haven't heard from her.

Have a great day everybody.

I guess I'm weird, Mad, but I WANT to feel hunger. It tells me I did something right!

Last night I ate a mixture of carrots, broccoli, cauli, and Brussels sprouts. Today I had carrots, cauli, and lima beans.I love veggies. I know that most weight loss plans shy away from carrots and limas, but I think the nutrients and fiber out weigh the carbs. I did not get fat or get diabetes from eating too many vegetables. It happened because of too many sweets, snack foods and huge meals in general. I think my body likes what I'm feeding it!

I just tracked my food in MFP for lunch and dinner. The butter than I use to cook the eggs, on my toast and on my veggies really adds up on calories, and I am just as happy not using it. I like the taste of the spray butter on my eggs and have even used it on my toast a few times. I don't feel that I'm drained of energy. I don't know. We are all different, but I'm not sure I am going to use all that butter. I'm not losing, so something has to go.

One thing that makes me mad about MFP. I entered my lima beans, but there are about 20 different lima beans to choose from and they all have different calorie counts. I guess I could look on my package and see how many are in the ones I ate. They list just about every brand on the market. How could they be so different? Also, I don't measure, just eyeball, so MFP is never more than a guess for me.

Trish, I think Wellbutrin is pretty cheap, especially because they will give you generic unless you specify that you want brand. But it's ridiculous for you to spend $65 for her to write the prescription every month!! I would not do that. I guess no one works for nothing and they have to make their money somehow. Too bad your insurance doesn't pay for you to go there.

Good for you on the 3 lbs loss!!

I was able to get the generic Wellbutrin for $9. So I took my first dose this evening. NP didn't say when to take it but to take 1x a day. Pharmacist said I could take it in the morning and if it made me sleepy to take when I go to bed so I just decided to take it in the afternoon when I know I'm not going any where.

We got KFC on the way home. I hadn't had anything but a banana and 1T peanut butter today when I got home before we left for Walmart so I was starving when I got home. BS before I ate KFC was 97. WOW!!! The way I feel right now I probably won't eat anything else tonight. In fact, the thought of eating anything right now sounds disgusting. Now that I'm doing IF again, I don't eat after 7 or 7:30 pm and I won't be hungry then since we ate later.

Carol Sue I am tired of salads all the time so I plan to fix DH a salad and I'll just eat some veggies. You are so good at eating them.

I'm tired after my long and busy day so I will catch y'all tomorrow. Goodnight.

Trish, I really have to be in the mood for a salad. I prefer hot or warm food, ice cream being the exception. I haven't had KFC in ages. DH says he likes fried chicken but it's actually grilled that he likes. No skin or bone, and no breading or batter. I told him he better learn the difference because some day he will order fried chicken and will not be happy with what he gets.

I hope the Welbutrin helps you and you don't have side effects. I am amazed that the online test you took said your thyroid is underactive but the blood test says it is not. What does that tell you?

Hi friends: 153 today. Coming down slowly. I am deciding what to do today re eating. I could extend this fast into tomorrow. Tomorrow I am eating as we have an event planned. I am taking the little ones on a train trip show, Polar Express. Its their Christmas gift. Before we go we will have a tailgate picnic.
So I could just skip eating today, or plan to eat today and tomorrow and fast again on Saturday. Not sure where i will land.

Trish: I think the normal thyroid values are typical. Lots of things have similar symptoms to low thyroid. I think most overweight people would like to have low thyroid. But in reality, its us, not the hormones.
Carol: you are right, we don't get overweight eating veggies. I too eat carrots and beets because I refuse to believe they can be bad for me. I keep the servings reasonable though.
Have a good day everyone