I can definitely see how my earlier point could be interpreted as a defense of geletin in particular. The point I was making is that manufactured foods serve a very important role in today's diet, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with them; that is what I was objecting to in the earlier post, not anything about gelatin, specifically. In many cases manufactured foods are superior to their non-manfactured alternatives; and for many people they're an irreplaceable tool in managing their health.
I agree! I believe manufactored protein plays an important role. I consume 1-2 protein shakes on a daily basis. I also believe real food plays an important role and sometimes feel people forget about it.
manufactured foods DONT have to play an important role in nutrition - you can eat 'all natural' and still get what you need. SUPPLEMENTS are a diiferent thing to NUTRITION though.
Great pissing contest though. You don't need to encourage me to read abot protein either thanks - I have done enough of it in my book to know what I am taking about.
I still can't comprehend how chemicals can be more superior to nature??? but I don't care to discuss it either. Nuff said.
That's typically the way things end up: Folks who have a strong personal preference one way or the other don't care to entertain the issue. And that's okay. You're right: Not everyone needs the assistance manfuactured foods provides. My only interest is in presenting objection to assertions that folks shouldn't use manfuactured foods, that non-manufactured foods are always better, etc.
An excellent source of information on natural foods, along w/recipes is Nourishing Traditions: The Cookbook that Challenges Politically Correct Nutrition and the Diet Dictocrats"
by Sally Fallon, Mary G. Enig PhD.
From Amazon:
Editorial Reviews
Book Description
A full-spectrum nutritional cookbook with a startling message--animal fats and cholesterol are vital factors in the human diet, necessary for reproduction and normal growth, proper function of the brain and nervous system, protection from disease and optimum energy levels. Includes information on how to prepare grains, health benefits of bone broths and enzyme-rich lacto-fermented foods.
From the Back Cover
The Diet Dictocrats don't want you to know that...
Your body needs old-fashioned animal fats New-fangled polyunsaturated oils can be bad for you Modern whole grain products can cause health problems Traditional sauces promote digestion and assimilation Modern food processing denatures our foods but Ancient preservation methods actually increase nutrients in fruits, nuts vegetables, meats and milk products!
Medical doctor looks at Nourishing Traditions, June 4, 2002
Reviewer: lynda_smith_cowan from New Hampshire, USA
I have been a practicing medical doctor for about 20 years. In that time I have pursued my interest in nutrition literally to all corners of the globe. I have read scores of books on nutrition and treated hundreds if not thousands of patients with nutritional advice and natural medicines. Of all the published nutritional information on the shelves today, by far the most informative, reliable, comprehensive, and useful is Ms. Fallon's Nourishing Traditions. When I first came across Nourishing Traditions a few years ago, I was amazed that one person was about to amass virtually the entire wisdom of traditional societies concerning nutrition into one book. I found ancient recipes, cooking techniques, food preparation insights that are simply not to be found anywhere else. I urge all those who wish to truly pursue their knowledge of nutrition and to regain their own health to do one thing. Buy Nourishing Traditions, read it thoroughly, take a deep breath, and embark on a new way of life. Thomas Cowan, M.D.
I believe there is some confusion regarding supplments and food. Protein shakes would qualify as a supplement. These can and do play an important role in bodybuilding (not average nutrition.) for those who cannot get enough protein from diet alone.
Obviously, real food should make up most of your diet. I believe the majority of your progress relies on this. There's nothing good about living off protein shakes, but I don't believe anyone here was suggesting that.
It's usually polite to say that you disagree with someone and you think blah blah blah..... etc that's the way you normally can have a differing point of view without pissing that person off. They way you wrote it before was like you were undercutting my advice instead of presenting a different point of view. That's what bugged me. It's not that I don't care to entertain the issue.
I don't think anything I said was impolite. I presented my understanding of the facts. I had asked for some references on the perspective that natural protein was better than manufactured protein. You did say that you don't care to discuss it further, and I granted that that was your right.
I don't think we really need to get into a big meta-discussion, but if you would like to let's keep it to private messages.
Thunder_Bunny , 10-04-2003 09:55 AM
3fcuser1058250 , 10-06-2003 06:58 AM
