Mad Sounds like you are really enjoying your trip. DH and I have traveled where we could just stop whenever we wanted rather than planned stop and that is nice sometimes. Have a safe trip home and enjoy.

Carol Sue I guess I could have asked you the name of the book like I usually do. Sorry you didn't sleep good. I didn't want to get up this morning and I went to bed earlier than usual. Just one of those nights. I've got to where I try to get up and call Daddy but I got up too late this morning as I'm sure he went to church this morning. The little church around the block from the residential center does church there on Sundays now.

I am pretty much back to low carb using this low carb high fiber plan that I found online which includes some fruit, grains, veggies, nuts and protein. It is a little different than most low carb plans but it should work. I did that yesterday and last night I got hungry for something and ate the little bit of left over beef roast from the other day with some raw veggies. It was good when I ate it but it made me a little nauseous but I think that is the diet pills. Still felt that way this morning. The nice thing is that by eating more low carb yesterday that my weight was still 212.8 and FBG was 112 this morning. I will stick with low carb. We are having eggs for our main meal today so not sure what I will have for breakfast. Will see how it goes.

I've been taking these pills for half a month now. So maybe they are starting to work. I don't know if I'm doing IF or not. I just eat when I am hungry. Not hungry this morning so far so may not eat until this afternoon when DH and I have our eggs.

Y'all have a nice day everybody.

Trish the name of this book is The Longevity Solution by Dr Denicolantonio and and Dr Fung. A lot of Dr Fung's recent discussions are about longevity. I always said I don't care so much about how long I live but more about quality of life. But the principles in this book reduce the risk of age related diseases so that's how it extends life. I am enjoying this so much more the second time around. I wish I had had this information available to.me 30 years ago before so much happened to me. I am reading this very slowly, going over parts I want to understand. I wish I had the hand held book so I could write in it and mark certain passages.

The part I am reading now makes me understand why many elderly appear to stop eating. Family members get alarmed and force them to eat which might not be the best thing. It IS important that what they eat is high nutrition but the long periods without eating are beneficial. Loss of appetite is natures way of keeping them free of disease and living longer. This was not in the book, but just my own conclusion from what I've read.

Trish, sometimes I feel nauseated after eating when I do OMAD. It seems to come because my stomach is used to being empty and then I give it a lot of food. It lasts for an a hour or so but I do not throw up. Just feel queasy. maybe that is the way the pills work. OMAD is supposed to be a large meal and that is why 2 meals seems to work better for me. Lately I have been having trouble sticking to my window in the evening. So I do the longer fast during the day to make up for it, but i really prefer eating earlier. I feel better and have more energy and sleep better with an empty stomach.

Although calorie reduction and fasting might provide the same total calories the effect is very different. There are hormonal changes during fasting that do not occur during simple calorie reduction.

Lowering dietary fat might lower calories but does not lower insulin. That requires lowering carb and protein.

Calorie restriction causes hunger and cravings while fasting does not. This explains why sometimes I can go for hours without eating, but once I eat my appetite goes into high gear and I want more. I think fasting more often will change that and I will get full sooner and he satisfied with less food.

Thanks Carol Sue. I ordered the book on kindle. I thought I had it but I guess it was The Salt Solution that I had although I can't find it either. Any way I don't have it any more so I purchased this book. Thanks for sharing with me. It is good to know that not wanting to eat is normal. I look forward to reading this book and will start today.

Carol- That book sounds really interesting. Glad to hear your weight is coming back down.
Trish- Sounds like you found a plan to fit you!
Mad- Hope the rest of your trip goes smoothly and am rooting for no gain.

So pleased to confirm a half pound loss! I've decided that the remaining pound and half potential loss from last week is available for further confirmation. It was really exciting earlier in the week because my weight had drifted even lower. However, on "official" weigh-in day it popped up (so annoying). I feel like I am at a cross-roads because I am having more difficulty sticking to my plan. I am making bad decisions and know that I am. I even recognize it in the moment and ask myself why am I making this bad decision. Basically, I mentally shrug and then continue with the bad decision. I had a very weird incident of this at the grocery store last week. There was a sweet bakery item I wanted that is nearly impossible to fit into my plan. I had told myself 'no'. As I was walking away, I reached out quickly with my left (non-dominate) hand and threw it into the cart. Ugh!! Of course I didn't put it back- kinda of funny but in a pathetic way.

Even though I am having trouble sticking to what I am doing now, I want to do more. I need to figure out a way to do it without my body knowing. It seems to go into full revolt mode when I make too many changes. My FBS is in the pre-diabetic range today but on Monday my FBS was normal (85). My BP is still too high. On a brighter note, last week I went ice skating twice and to the rec center four times. I still want to add in Pilates and don't understand what is stopping my from setting up the appointment. Also, for a long time I was focused on four daily mini goals and those have in part have dropped off the radar. One was exercise and I am doing well with that. The second one was no sugared soda. I was doing really well but it has started to sneak back in. The third was getting 20 minutes of fresh air. For some reason, I just don't do this even though it is the easiest one. The fourth was going to sleep at a reasonable hour. This one is hard for me as I tend to be a night owl. I would like to get back to these basics because I think they are important.

There have been a couple of recent articles on-line that have caught my attention. One says obese people store fat in their lung tissue. I knew my excess weight was no good for my organs but to know it infiltrates the lungs themselves was disheartening. The second article said that it takes a deficit of 7000 calories to take a pound off. It seems based on research at a reputable institution but I am not sure I agree with it. In my personal experience, I can get the math to work using the standard 3500 calorie target to lose a pound. If it is true that it should be double, it figures!

So in my vein of poor planning, I am out of my usual breakfast for Sundays. So I will just have a longer IF and start with lunch. Hope everyone has a good week!

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Pipsicle, I am not sure I believe the 7000 calorie deficit theory because the weight as shown on the scale is so variable. There are so many things involved in losing weight that involves hormones and body fluids. Your weight is going down so I would just be thankful of that. It is slow, but it could be going up or staying the same and it is not. Next week is going to come whether you lose or not so you might as well.lose. You as making positive changes in your activity. You could lose 2 lbs of fat but gain 1 lb of muscle and think you only lost 1 lb. But the gained muscle will help.you lose more body fat over time.

I am also so guilty of foods finding their way into my cart when they should not. The most recent was a package of bagels that were gone in 2 days. I would have considered it ok if I put them in the freezer and had 1/2 per day in place of my toast, but that was not the case. This week I spotted the bagels and turned my cart in the opposite direction. Next week I plan on approaching the display, picking them up in my hand, then saying no and putting them back. Maybe some day when I'm stronger I can buy them and ration them to 1/2 per d ay. Not today!

I had a NSV at dinner today. We went out and I had a stuffed pork chop dinner. The pork chop tasted very good. In fact I could call it delicious. My taste for meat is improving! Yay!

Trish I hope you like the book. I will not continue to post the information unless someone wants me to. You and I can compare our feelings about it as we read. I am surprised at how much I am getting out of it reading it a second time. I could have avoided so many health issues if I had known what I am learning now. Hopefully I can still turn some things around. I am thinking of ways I can fit these ideas into my lifestyle and live healthier for whatever is left of my life. I am happy to be walking so much better than I was earlier in the year so I know that improvements can be made.

Pipsicle I think we all have those times when get things that we shouldn't but hopefully we do get better. Hope next week will be even better.

Carol Sue I haven't read this book before so it is new info. There are some medical info that is difficult for me to understand but still good info. I am taking my time reading it so I can learn things that I need out of it. Glad you are getting your taste for meat back.

Trish, I had the same issue with some terms I did not understand. I tend to skim over things I don't understand, that's why I am reading it over again. Some of the terms I googled so I would understand better. This time that I'm reading, when I finish a section, I go back over it again to be sure I understand it all. The one thing I don't understand is about protein. It says that children need a lot of protein because they are growing and their organs are developing, but as we get older we only need enough to repair and maintain. I get that, but later on it says that older people (us LOL) seem to lose muscle because they are not eating enough protein. I guess there is a fine line to how much we need.

I just wanted to jump in on your thread and say I'm very interested in your thoughts on this book, so please keep commenting. (I guess I'm a lurker, haha.)

I, luckily, have ok blood sugar but I am doing the intermittent fasting also along with calorie counting and lowish carb (under 100 grams a day). My eating window is normally noon until I finish dinner at around 6 pm. I have been eating dinner earlier and earlier and amazingly (to me) I don't have a problem with snacking after dinner at all! I really like to eat, so this new-found ability to not be tempted to eat after dinner has been a revelation for me. I think it might be something mental with the "eating window" concept. I'm super interested in what you have discovered in the book, so thank you.

Hi CJZee! I'm glad you stopped in. I have seen your posts here and there around the forum but I don't post in very many other threads. You are welcome to join in with our discussions, too. You don't have to be diabetic.

I noticed that this book received a lot of bad reviews on Amazon from Dr Fung's followers. Maybe they wanted something geared more toward weight loss like his other books. I think it's fascinating how easy it sounds to make changes in eating and have them have such a change in our health and how long we live.

FBG was 89. I did not get on the scale after that big pork chop dinner I ate last night! I did fairly well in the evening having 2 slices of cheese. SO no junk food at all yesterday.

HI Everyone: I am home now. We had a marathon of a drive yesterday and got home a 1 am. ugh. But it was worth it to be home. DD looks great. She went off to vote this morning for our national election. We voted before we left because originally we were not going to be home this day.
All well otherwise at home. Will plan to eat today since we are being social with DD. She and I are going to plan the menu for my other DD convocation party on Saturday.
It won't be a busy week. I am planning plenty of walking and yoga this week, as well as practicing music. I have two more months of this leave before starting back to work in January. I need to figure out how to "be" during this time. I am sure I will not be bored, but I had been hoping to learn about living a regular day as a "retired" person, not building my life around work. So that is still on.

Mad, there is no such thing as a regular day as a retired person. I am finding out that I am not typical. Most like to get involved in activities they didn't have time for when they were employed and some find themselves busier than they were before. They say it's the activity that keeps you healthy and living longer. You have not let the grass grow under your feet during this break. Going back to work will not be a big change for you, just different busy-ness.

I am having a hard time figuring out the protein. Lots is needed for growing children. Middle age need only small amounts to repair and maintain muscle. High protein leads to cancer and other age related diseases such as alzheimers . But when they speak of the elderly, they say they need more because of the tendency to lose lean muscle. How much more? No clue. I guess if you feel you are losing muscle you up your intake. Still, it's the lower calorie with high nutrition that brings the longevity. I will read back over that at some point or do additional research.

I made the stuffed peppers today. They got done early so we ate shortly after 3. I was not hungry yet so I only ate half. I will try not to eat again today.

CJZee! We are glad you checked in. Always feel free to.

Mad Glad you made it home safe. Enjoy your time with your DD and planning party for your other daughter. I'm not sure what a normal retirement day is. I think it is whatever you want it to be. I'm sure your will figure it out and you will be active whatever you do.

Carol Sue I read a book years ago by a woman doctor for women and she said that women don't need a huge amount of protein. She said no more than 90 grams. I've never seen that anywhere else. Your stuffed peppers sound good. Neither DH #2 or 3 like it. DH #2 would let me cook them and he would take the meat out and eat it and give the peppers to me, but DH #3 won't even do that. DH saw how much Vitamin C was in the peppers and I had hoped he would decide to try eating them but he didn't.

I didn't get any reading done today. We didn't make it to Daddy's today. He is acting up again and being very ugly with people at the nursing home. In fact, until he decides to change his attitude they aren't allowing him to go on any outings with them. He and the man across the hall are fighting again. DS called the activity director and she said they have times when they fight and times when they are buddies. The day they took them out to eat at Out Back Daddy evidently got mad and threw fit. There was a time that he was really mean and wild and I hope he doesn't get that way again. Baby sister called me yesterday telling me how terrible he was when she and BIL went to see him last Friday. She said he is very angry. From what little we know about dementia the anger is part of it. I don't know if it dealing with his situation or the fact that I only drank a Premier shake this morning or both, but I ended up with a sick stomach and headache. We had to go to Sam's and Walmart, but I was miserable. Came home and ate a bite and then slept for a while. Headache is better. I was afraid to take anything for the headache because I was afraid I would get sicker. You should never have to go to the store feeling that way.

Hope everybody has a good evening.

Trish, DH eats the meat and rice filling from the pepper but only a small part of the pepper. He also wanted corn with his. He loves corn. I can take it or leave it. I took a nap and didn't eat the rest of mine.

I am sorry your Dad is acting up. That is really a shame. I think you were upset from the stress he is causing. So many on the LC forum have been dealing with things like that with parents. I can not relate as mine have been gone so long but I sympathize. You have done nothing but what is best for him and don't deserve this.

I don't understand the metric system at all. I wish I did but I think I am to old to learn. I have no idea how much 90 grams is. I can visualize what 3-4 oz is of chicken or beef but can't convert it to grams. Plus, since meat is not 100% protein I don't know how many grams of protein is in 3 oz of meat. Also, everyone has a different idea of how much protein we need.