In my opinion if you are tough enough to appear on international TV weighing 250 to 350+ pounds in a sports bra and stretch pants, you are tough enough to deal with Internet gossip...I mean really, it's an attention thing...good or bad they can't care or they wouldn't do it. Kristin bleached her hair white so that we would all notice her...and we did! Mission accomplished. I bet it won't stay that way for long....it was different weekly.

So I have the opportunity to go to an open house today for the two yellow sisters (Mandi and Aubrey). If I go (I have a meeting around that time), I'll find out if Aubrey is pregnant as a previous poster speculated and let you know. Hopefully the place won't be too packed. The notice in the paper was pretty small, but if I saw it, I imagine lots of other people did, too.

The comment about how men with muscle mass can't compete against leaner older women made me laugh my piehole off!

It wasn't that long ago, like for the first 4 seasons!, where the general consensus was that a woman COULDN'T win because they started the contest at a lower overall body weight and with a much slower metabolism than any of the men!!!

As for the winners: here's the list --
2004 Season 1: Ryan, age 36: start 330 lbs, end 208 lbs
2005 Season 2: Matt, age 28: start 339 lbs, end 182 lbs
2006 Season 3: Erik, age 35: start 407 lbs, end 193 lbs
2007 Season 4: Bill, age 40: start 334 lbs, end 170 lbs
2008 TBL Couples: Ali, age 32: start 234 lbs, end 122 lbs
2008 TBL Families: Michelle, age 26: start 242 lbs, end 132 lbs
2009 TBL Couples 2: Helen, age 47: start 257, end 117 lbs

Funny how perceptions change! Before last year, all the winners were men with really large start weights.

Kira

Oh, please.

I didn't realize that I wasn't on a public message board discussing a reality show. My bad.

And yes, I think Kristen looks fabulous, but her hair..... oh my.

Responding to Willow: I like your post, although I still want Kristen to go back to her other hair .

I'm a big BL fan and sometimes have said rude things about the people because one just gets caught up in them as TV characters, but you are right, they are people.

But some of the boards are worse than others in regard to this kind of thing. One doesn't expect it on 3FC as much as some other places but there it is. I imagine the BL participants probably don't care or deliberately don't read the stuff.

One thing I've noticed on all the BL boards is that if someone comes on and says something like, well, Helen looked good, hurray for Helen, that gets people defensive and they start in coming back to the thread and adding more comments about how bad Helen looks, etc. And so it goes.

But I personally feel your post is nice and you are right.

Speaking of Helen, did anyone catch her on QVC with Alli (the contestant) last nite? Allie was on right after the finale, and then again last nite, but I about fell out of my chair when I saw Helen with her. She must be exhausted to fly from Ca to Pa to work the live show last nite! Anyway, I have to report that she looked awesome. Had a nice white wrap sweater type thingee on with a colored cami peeking out at the neck with slacks and heels. She and Allie were so cute at the close, they were literally holding hands off and on the whole hour and at the end while they were doing the product review and they weren't on camera, they forgot to cut the mikes cuz you could hear 2 people saying muffled "I love yous" to each other. I only figured it out when they came back out to the set and they had their arms around each other. It was very heartwarming. Helen didn't look at all too skinny on QVC with some normal daytime clothing on. She looked really good. Perhaps she had rehydrated. I'll see if I can find a shot of them together from the website.

Here, follow this link, and then click to watch the video.
http://www.qvc.com/qic/qvcapp.aspx/v...aloricReferenc

Well said Willow and I couldnt agree more!!

I agree with those who feel Helen should have cared more for her daughter who still needs to lose weight. Most Moms would have let the girl stay . Biggest loser-yes but best Mother-Not !

Sheridan

Where is it written that when you become a mother you cease to exist as a human being? There is such a thing as needing to take care of yourself so that you can take care of others. The daughter didnt want to be there, the daughter is a grown woman. We didnt see the whole conversation between those two, how do you know that she wouldnt have gone willingly had the daughter WANTED to stay? It shocks me how judgemental and hateful people are about decisions people make, just because they arent the decisions you would make doesnt make them wrong.

Edited to add: It seems the line of thinking around here is that a mother isnt allowed to think about herself, lose weight and get healthy until her children are healthy and thin. Otherwise she's a terrible person and mother, which if thats the case I better call my mother and tell her to cancel her WLS because its putting a burden on me and she needs to focus on my weightloss first. Now if she dies in the meantime while I decide to do this for myself (being a grown woman) I guess thats just tough cookies.

Well said Willow I totally agree with you.

I don't think Helen was horrible either, clearly her daughter did not want it as much as Helen. Why is this Helene's fault? Why is is not ok for Helen to want to better herself? Her daughter is a grown woman!

I guess we weren't watching the same show.

It still amazes me how much 3FC has changed....nuff said.

Just wanted to point out that I believe these are medals that they won AFTER the controversy. There was so much ill feeling over the TBL-staged marathon that he commented that he had since run several other races, and I think THAT was why he was bringing his "real" finisher medals to the show to kind of close that loop. Maybe that still upsets you, I don't know, but I thought maybe you thought there were from the one where they got the help from the producers. I wasnt' bothered by him just trying to clear the air on that situation.

Hey, if I got some medals for completing half- and full-marathons, I'd be wearing them, not holding them in my hands. That is such an accomplishment, especially after the whole "he rode in a car and didn't do the half-marathon" controversy this season. He and ANYONE who runs those distances deserves a huge whoot!!!

Kira

I will maintain that in this great country we are each (that means me as well as you) to have an opinion. I respect that you would vote Helen as Mother of the Year but please respect my opinion that I would not.

The daughter did not seem to want to leave from her comments in my opinion. Helen said the girl wanted to leave. You may be correct but do not judge my opinion since you apparently feel judgment is wrong unless, of course, it is you doing the judging. Chill out-who really cares anyway!

Gee, maybe you are Helen and that is why you know everything.

It is just a game folks- stay happy whatever your opinion!

Sheridan

OMG - Helen looks amazing, she is a size 2 now. I read it in people magazine. She looks very small, much like Ali did 2 seasons ago - but I don't think she looks anorexic. I am so proud of her for overcoming so much. It is great to see someone her age beat out all the younger ones. She is the oldest winner ever. GO HELEN!