Pattygirl--Thanx for reminding me about the link I posted. I have it in my favorites too but haven't really explored it yet. I will plan to do that and review my blog too because I a special page for IE and I wrote about each chapter and how I related to it.

IE is very strange. Today I just couldn't eat a piece of cheesecake. It was too rich. So I had a banana and oreo instead. I used to love cheesecake. Oh well.

Carol -That is a great accomplishment with the cheesecake. I had an accomplishment today too. I ate exactly what I wanted today for lunch and planned to end with 2 pcs of dark chocolate (I usually want more), but I ate one and didn't want the other one. I actually recognized the feeling of being satisfied.

Shay - I am really enjoying the new website and boy am I learning where I messed up when I did this before. I never really stopped the "diet" thinking. I got hung up in what they call Psudo-dieting. That is when you are still acting out of the diet mentality mindset, but are not aware of doing it because it is so vague and subtle and it keeps you trapped where you believe that you've given up dieting, but actually your still acting out of a diet mindset. I looked at your blog and plan to do some reading from it as well.

One thing I read about on the other website is keeping a journal of the positive things you accomplish each day that is IE like Carol when you didn't want the cheesecake. I intend to get me a journal and keep a record of my progress.

Good night catch ya tomorrow.

That journal thing sounds like a good idea. Usually we equate journaling with calorie counting but we can switch that kind of thinking. I really avoided journaling because of it's connection with dieting but I can see now there is another side. Thanks, Patty.

I had my 2nd day back on IE and I am really enjoying it. Today was even better than yesterday. Sunday is busy now that we are involved in church so will hope everyone has a great Sunday and I will catch up with y'all Monday.

Pattygirl--The journal is an excellent idea. I started a "success journal" based upon this podcast that I have been listening to off and on for a while now: "Inside Out Weightloss". I will come back with a link.

Here is the link:
http://personallifemedia.com/podcast...ut-weight-loss

Thanks for the link, Shay.

There's so much that I can relate to that's been said here. I have been journaling on and off since the new year started. More off than on, actually. I have been using it to track what I eat. It seems that I am very caught up in the psudo-diet mentioned, too. Somehow it's still like all or nothing ... either I am "being good" and eating the way I should be or I am "being bad" and blowing it. I thought I was past all of that. Thanks for the links Shay. I have been reading on the other message board, too. I hope this will all click soon.

Hi Everyone

This D3 back on IE. I am on Step 2 from the new IE support group of Honor your Hunger. I actually forgot to eat today and didn't eat before we went to Sunday night Bible study. Decided if I got hungry that I could get something at the meeting as they always bring snacks. I wasn't hungry at the meeting either as nothing was appealing to me so I just drank 1/2 c coffee. IE support group suggests eating something if you've gone 5 hours without being hungry. However, when I got home I got busy doing something and didn't eat until about an hour after we got home. I don't know how many hours I went between lunch sometime around 1 pm this afternoon and when I finally at sometime around 8 or 9 pm. They suggest not going more than 5 hours because you will be famished and overeat. I may have done that as I just grabbed something and instead of eating until satisfied, I actually felt stuffed when I was finished. I think the lesson learned there is that when I go so long between eating that by the time I do eat I eat too fast making it impossible if not difficult to hear the signal that I am satisfied so I can stop eating.

I am sharing this experience because I read that we should learn from these experiences instead of seeing them as "failure" as we would do as "dieters" rather than IE eaters. So I am thinking maybe it would be helpful if we shared some of the things that happen to us or that we do and then see what we learn from them. By sharing it with each other it will help all of us to see that we are learning and that we are making progress. I know sometimes I don't think I'm doing well and I back off from the group etc. Maybe this is why I have a difficult time at succeeding. I am learning that there are no "rules" set in stone in IE. We are to learn to listen to what our bodies are telling us to eat not a set of rules like we had as "dieters". Hope you will share what you are learning too. I think it would help me to hear what you have learned so that I can progress easier and maybe even a little faster and maybe my sharing will do the same for you.

Shay Thanks for the new website. I plan to check it out tomorrow.

Good night all.

I rarely overeat now as I don't like that too full feeling. My problem is finding something I like. Just lately, nothing tastes very good. Then when I eat I think, "Should I eat this or throw it away?" It's really hard for me to waste food but I'm getting better at it. Sounds funny, doesn't it? I now take just a really small portion so I don't have to waste so much. Sat. night DH and I had some snacks before supper and I really wasn't hungry so I ate a really small amount. The weight comes off so slow this way but I really think I don't worry about that anymore. I used to get so keyed up when a wedding, graduation or other special event was coming up. Now I don't do that. I KNOW that food tastes so much better when you are really hungry.

I rarely overeat any more for the same reason Carol. Last night when I over did it I didn't go way over but just enough that I could feel it and I hate that feeling. Once yesterday I stood in the kitchen and realized that I wasn't hungry and how good I felt to not feel empty but just "normal" I guess. I knew I didn't have much if anything in my stomach at that point, but I didn't want or need anything either. That was a really a "great" feeling. I actually felt good about myself. I haven't felt that way in a long time. I don't want to get into a "rule" of having to eat because I haven't eaten in a long time either. I think there are signs we can see when we need to eat. The article I read on the other site suggested when you get a headache or you have what I call "cloudy or fuzzy" thinking mindset and you haven't eaten in a while you probably need to eat. I ate breakfast this morning because I haven't gotten out of the mindset yet that "I have to eat breakfast" and I've been miserable since I ate it. I think from now on, I'll eat it when I feel I need it, but not because I think I have to.

Another problem I have that goes along with what you said Carol is that I don't know what I want to eat sometimes and when I eat it I find it didn't taste as good as I thought it would. My big problem is I have to cook for DH and he doesn't know what he wants either (he isn't a big eater and is picky) or won't tell me what he wants. But he wants to eat around 2 pm and no later than 3 everyday. I get busy and forget about what time it is and I maybe I'm not even hungry yet. So I have to try to plan ahead what I'm going to cook. I'll name a few things to him and he will say "I don't care. Are you going to it that?" Meaning "What are you going to eat?" Then there are some foods I just don't like to cook any more unless we're having company to help us eat it because I don't like to have leftovers and I too hate throwing food away, but I'm learning to also. Not that I don't like leftovers it is just that they go bad before I get hungry for them such as pastas. Example, today we will have spaghetti and it is so difficult to fix the right amount for us as he like the regular and I like the whole wheat or whole grains. I do make the sauce up and put them in small containers in the freezer. But I don't fix that kind of stuff too much any more. Can you freeze cooked pasta? Same with brown rice. I love it, but don't cook it because it ruins before I want it again and he won't eat it. I use instant and don't know if it freezes good either. I have had hard times in my life and I hate throwing away food. When we lived close to DH's daughter, I could send leftovers home with her or feed it to DGD when I kept her, but we don't have anyone to share them with here in SC. So it goes.

It is really strange how good it feels to be doing IE. I've gained a little bit and I know I need to get rid of the scales, but not ready yet. I think that will come in time. I have been putting off buying clothes, but now that we are in a new church that is contemporary and dress is casual. Since we actively attend regularly and have a ministry there I need some new clothes. I went in to my closet to see for sure what size I wear and I was surprised to see I don't wear as large a size as I thought. So I'm going to buy me 2 pr of jeans and some blouses to interchange with them and my regular pants. It actually made me feel good and encouraged me to see that I didn't have to buy a larger size.

Have a good day.

Hi All,
I just want to de-lurk and reaffirm what a godsend IE has been. I no longer obsess about food, eat much smaller portions without feeling deprived and am eating a far better quality of food as well. Plus I am down 10 pounds this week! I know some of this is water weight but I will take it.
Really it has been a miracle so far. I spent 2008 in a continual cycle of dieting and bingeing to the point I regained 45 pounds.
The first few days of IE are rocky. It is a challenge to get in touch with my body's hunger signals and I learned quite a lot through my misinterpretation of my actual hunger levels.
I may be going through a honeymoon period yet I think that this is a lasting momentous change in my eating habits and I am on the road to greatly improved health.
Thanks,
Pennie

I almost hate to ask this because I hope it doesn't change. But does anyone else have this problem? I don't get hungry. I think I mentioned earlier that I ate breakfast and was miserable. I was not hungry but was ready to eat the spaghetti meal and ate till satisfied and threw the rest away it wasn't enough to keep. Later I had a hunger taste for sherbet and had a bowl of it and it was good. Later I ate a salad, but not sure I was hungry.

Do you eat breakfast? I read that even in IE you should not go past 5 hours without eating something. How do you handle those days when you do not feel hungry? You know I realized today that when I was single and even after previous DH passed away I only ate 1 or 2 meals a day and then it was almost always because I knew I needed to eat not because I was hungry. I even ate that way growing up. Just never had time or cared to eat much when I did eat. So I'm thinking that when I really get rid of "diet" mindset and more into IE that 1 or 2 meals may be all I will eat because that is normal for me. Just curious if anyone has a thought on this.

Trish, do you have a lot to lose? I know in one IE book it says that if you have a lot to lose you might not be hungry. I've been just opposite. Yesterday I was hungry and ate 3 meals and a graham cracker before bed. I was hungry before I went to sleep but I keep some ice breaker mints on my headboard for that. A couple usually quiets the hunger pangs. I can't figure out why one day I'm not hungry and the next day I am.